Proposal: MTL- STL

[HabbyGuy]

To Habs: Vince Dunn

To Blues: 2nd 2021 and Joel Armia

Fair Deal?

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[Legend123]

For habs yes

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

My guess is blues would want a first (I think that was the asking price)

edit: Dunn for mete swap?

 

[Dominicr]

To Habs: Vince Dunn

To Blues: 2nd 2021 and Joel Armia

Fair Deal?

how about both your 2nds this year.

 

[HabbyGuy]

how about both your 2nds this year.

No, we need to move some salary out.

 

[Just Linda]

That's a funny way to spell first rounder

 

[Dominicr]

No, we need to move some salary out.

Ok then both 2nds and armia.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Ok then both 2nds and armia.

Hmm... 2nd, 3rd and Armia.

 

[HabbyGuy]

That's a funny way to spell first rounder

English was never my best subject in school.

 

[Mersss]

That's a funny way to spell first rounder

Dunn isn't worth a 1st rounder, not now, not ever...

 

[HabbyGuy]

My guess is blues would want a first (I think that was the asking price)

edit: Dunn for mete swap?

Dunn for Mete doesn't work financially for the habs, but if it did I'd be absolutely fine with that. I'd think the blues would want more than Mete though.

 

[Dominicr]

Hmm... 2nd, 3rd and Armia.

no....I’m going to have to stick with two second rounders because of having to take armia back also

 

[HabbyGuy]

no....I’m going to have to stick with two second rounders because of having to take armia back also

What's wrong with Armia? You're implying he has negative value.

 

[67Blues]

What's wrong with Armia? You're implying he has negative value.

Salary cap would be an issue unless they have shut Parayko down for the year. If I'm reading it right, that would put them $800K over. Plus, where do they put him?

 

[Big Empty]

That's a funny way to spell first rounder

A 1st round pick for Vince Dunn?

The guy on the Blues?

I’m good

 

[Big Empty]

no....I’m going to have to stick with two second rounders because of having to take armia back also

Armia has positive value. There would be many teams that would take him for a mid round pick around the league.

 

[glenbuis]

Makes it sound like armia is a cap dump . I’m not sure about armia straight up for Dunn . Two picks to . ? Not a chance

 

[Dominicr]

Armia has positive value. There would be many teams that would take him for a mid round pick around the league.

He just doesn’t serve a purpose on the blues. I understand Montreal needing to shed a little money but if Dunn would be going from the blues it would mean they have someone coming back from elsewhere to take his place....that is unless they feel walman and mikkola are ready for it.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Salary cap would be an issue unless they have shut Parayko down for the year. If I'm reading it right, that would put them $800K over. Plus, where do they put him?

I see. Didn't realize the Blues had absolutely no cap space at all when making this proposal. That's a fair point. Just seems a little expensive from a value standpoint to the habs.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Armia has positive value. There would be many teams that would take him for a mid round pick around the league.

Maybe then we can move Armia somehere else for said pick and then just trade for Dunn with the 2 2nds? So it would be to Mtl - Dunn plus whatever we get for Armia and then two 2nd's to Stl?

 

[glenbuis]

I’d do lehkonen (400,000) retained and a third for Dunn . That would be it . This would be a last minute deal to after several other options are explored first .

 

[Dominicr]

Maybe then we can move Armia somehere else for said pick and then just trade for Dunn with the 2 2nds? So it would be to Mtl - Dunn plus whatever we get for Armia and then two 2nd's to Stl?

this I would say yes to as St. Louis.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

I’d do lehkonen (400,000) retained and a third for Dunn . That would be it . This would be a last minute deal to after several other options are explored first .

I think you're underrating Dunn a little, but I also get that I think he's not a fit everywhere. I also think Dunn isn't the kind of guy worth a 1st. Is he a 2nd? Probably. Mid-to-late, heavier emphasis on late, if you think you can take advantage of his offensive skill and unleash it and you've got a defensively strong defenseman you can put him with.

To the OP: I don't see us shipping Dunn for an impending UFA, even if it's with a 2nd. I think the more likely scenario is the oft-described "hockey trade" which probably means "trade in the offseason" and even then I think it gets complicated because I don't see a "good" trade with Montreal out there involving Dunn. I was going to suggest something with Dunn and Zach Sanford, but I still can't see something that makes sense for both sides.

 

[Vachon23]

 

[Treb]

He just doesn’t serve a purpose on the blues. I understand Montreal needing to shed a little money but if Dunn would be going from the blues it would mean they have someone coming back from elsewhere to take his place....that is unless they feel walman and mikkola are ready for it.

To Habs: Vince Dunn
To STL: 2nd, 3rd, X pick
To X: Armia

Alternatively:
To Habs: Vince Dunn
To STL: 2nd, 3rd, Kulak