Confirmed Trade: [MTL/CGY] Sean Monahan and conditional 2024/25/26 1st round pick for future considerations

[Bond]

Where did I say he was good defensively? He’s not. I wouldn’t dispute anything you said in your previous response. I do think he’s showing flashes of what made him an offensive threat in Calgary and that’s promising.

If he was scoring at a 60+ point pace, winning faceoffs, and looking reasonable on the defensive side, we could talk about a team bringing him in as a rental for a 2C spot. It’s way too early though.

I just don’t think he slots in as a #2C on a contender cause his d game is so weak. Second line scoring winger for sure if he stays healthy and keeps scoring

I suppose Monahan flat out stating that this is the first time in four years that he can skate without pain and discomfort in his hips isn't enough for him.

lol I don’t believe him. He and the Flames really failed on managing his health. I think Monahan should have been taught to complain earlier and not be a soldier. Guy is too committed haha

 

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[TheNumber4]

Flames were well on their way to losing this trade, but there’s good news, Lindholm has replaced what Monahan brought them last year.

 

[BLONG7]

Seems to be a trade that worked for both teams..............Flames got Kadri, and the habs got a decent 2C for the season, and a 1st rd pick..............and the potential of another, 1st rd pick at this years deadline.....
Monahan has ben pretty decent for the habs...............would they consider keeping him? Not likely....

 

[Natey]

would they consider keeping him? Not likely....

Depends on the pick and how much money Monahan wants. He's always going to be a risk. He's got injury history. So if he wants long term security, it'll have to be cheap. Under $4M. He could try to keep getting paid though, but he'd have to take shorter deals.

If a team offers a 1st this year? He's gone. This draft is too deep for a rebuilding team but to take it. If it's a future 1st? I think they really consider keeping him. He's still young. A 5 year, $20M deal would be rock solid for both sides.

I think a lot of teams are going to be skeptical of moving a 1st this year since even late round picks will give you a prospect that you'd normally see the Top-10.

 

[BB88]

Seems to be a trade that worked for both teams..............Flames got Kadri, and the habs got a decent 2C for the season, and a 1st rd pick..............and the potential of another, 1st rd pick at this years deadline.....
Monahan has ben pretty decent for the habs...............would they consider keeping him? Not likely....

I’m not really sure how it is worth it to pay a 1st round pick to get a 32 C signed for 7 years.

It’s a really short term look

 

[Gaud]

Interesting season for the habs so far! I liked what i saw from Monahan, especially with Suzuki and Caufield. I am curious as to the plan for him in Mtl - if that is to maximize his value to get maximum return at the TDL, then i am confused as to why he is constantly moved around and put on lines with less talented players. I mean, the way he is playing, we should showcase him as other contracts like Drou, Hoff and Armia will be much harder to move and may have negative value.

This makes me wonder just how much we are in "rebuild" and how much weight is put on winning at this point. Sure, winning and maintaining a good attitude helps with the culture, but is there a chance to make the playoffs? I'd be totally OK with training a Monahan (lets say he has value) in a deal that includes a "savard-type" player that can mentor the kids, especially if there are futures included.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If Monahan returns a 1st at the tdl, the habs would have essentially received two 1st round picks for free, which is insane.
They could use those picks to acquire Dubois even.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

If Monahan returns a 1st at the tdl, the habs would have essentially received two 1st round picks for free, which is insane.
They could use those picks to acquire Dubois even.

Hopefully he also helps them finish around 19th overall. I'll go on record saying there is no way he gets a 1st, although he has rebuilt some value. Maybe a later pick from Columbus.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Depends on the pick and how much money Monahan wants. He's always going to be a risk. He's got injury history. So if he wants long term security, it'll have to be cheap. Under $4M. He could try to keep getting paid though, but he'd have to take shorter deals.

If a team offers a 1st this year? He's gone. This draft is too deep for a rebuilding team but to take it. If it's a future 1st? I think they really consider keeping him. He's still young. A 5 year, $20M deal would be rock solid for both sides.

I think a lot of teams are going to be skeptical of moving a 1st this year since even late round picks will give you a prospect that you'd normally see the Top-10.

Monahan will be the FOMO trade. Not a team's first or second target, but when they are gone, they circle back with a 2nd. Provided he is healthy.

 

[Supersonic]

Just like how the Habs got a 1st rounder for Ben “delay of game” Chiarot, I fully expect them to swindle some team out of a 1st this deadline.

 

[Natey]

Monahan will be the FOMO trade. Not a team's first or second target, but when they are gone, they circle back with a 2nd. Provided he is healthy.

I'd rather sign him long term than trade for a 2nd.

 

[HighLifeMan]

This reminds me of when Cammalleri was with the Flames for the second time around and they were looking to move him at the deadline. No team offered more than a mid round pick and he had 26 goals in 63 games that year. As a result he wasn't moved. The odds of Monahan returning a 1st are next to nil, and I am one of his biggest fans. That's simply a pipedream from a Montreal perspective.

GM's understand the circumstances at play here where Monahan is playing near 18 minutes a night on a very mediocre roster, and he is not exactly lighting the world on fire. He's not going to be viewed as a piece to push a team over the top and as such the market will be slim.

 

[TT1]

This reminds me of when Cammalleri was with the Flames for the second time around and they were looking to move him at the deadline. No team offered more than a mid round pick and he had 26 goals in 63 games that year. As a result he wasn't moved. The odds of Monahan returning a 1st are next to nil, and I am one of his biggest fans. That's simply a pipedream from a Montreal perspective.

GM's understand the circumstances at play here where Monahan is playing near 18 minutes a night on a very mediocre roster, and he is not exactly lighting the world on fire. He's not going to be viewed as a piece to push a team over the top and as such the market will be slim.

this is wrong, he's been very good

 

[HighLifeMan]

this is wrong, he's been very good

I never said he wasn't playing good - but that doesn't suggest he's worth anywhere near a 1st round pick.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

If Monahan has found a good fit in Montreal, maybe it would be good for both sides to sign an extension?

 

[DFF]

Flames were well on their way to losing this trade, but there’s good news, Lindholm has replaced what Monahan brought them last year.

The Flames got Kadri
They ain’t losing

Monahan is doing Ok for Montreal because they paid nothing except salary. He would have still been a disaster in Calgary with 2 goals for a 6M+ player

 

[Some Other Flame]

I hope Monahan has a phenomenal year not just because he seems like a good guy but also because the better he does, the less chance the Habs have of getting Bedard

 

[Naslundforever]

I hope Monahan has a phenomenal year not just because he seems like a good guy but also because the better he does, the less chance the Habs have of getting Bedard

Well either way… A free 28 year old former ppg center on an expiring contract and a free 1st rnd pick is free. Free is awesome. So are ppg players, centers and 1st round picks. Awesome is awesome.

I think at this point the odds of habs winning the loto again are slim to none anyway.

 

[Ezpz]

The Flames got Kadri
They ain’t losing

Monahan is doing Ok for Montreal because they paid nothing except salary. He would have still been a disaster in Calgary with 2 goals for a 6M+ player

What? He would be fourth on Calgary in scoring right now while playing in a much stronger conference in the strongest division in hockey.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Well either way… A free 28 year old former ppg center on an expiring contract and a free 1st rnd pick is free. Free is awesome. So are ppg players, centers and 1st round picks. Awesome is awesome.

I think at this point the odds of habs winning the loto again are slim to none anyway.

lol interesting use of "free"

Also, he's half a ppg and literally only doing well because he's playing wing, not center. And that's the thing - the Flames quote unquote brain trust didn't have the basic sense to put play Monahan on the wing. So if they had moved Lucic instead for example, Monahan would just be the Flames' 4th line center right now and would likely be pointless.

 

[Naslundforever]

lol interesting use of "free"

Also, he's half a ppg and literally only doing well because he's playing wing, not center. And that's the thing - the Flames quote unquote brain trust didn't have the basic sense to put play Monahan on the wing. So if they had moved Lucic instead for example, Monahan would just be the Flames' 4th line center right now and would likely be pointless.

I hear you. Every hab older than 23 sucks up front so he’s actually doing better than most I don’t think we can see this as who won a trade, it’s just bodies and salary moving, really. Two teams in really different places too.

Just because I have a moment he actually has 468pts in 666gp and hit 80pts once (optimistic hab fans hope he slowed down because of an injury that is now ok, who knows…)

 

[jellybeans]

Flames were well on their way to losing this trade, but there’s good news, Lindholm has replaced what Monahan brought them last year.

It wasn't a win trade for Calgary but they had no choice to do it because of the salary cap,

 

[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

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[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

If Monahan has found a good fit in Montreal, maybe it would be good for both sides to sign an extension?

Nah he doesn't fit in the long term