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His numbers looked somewhat better in Detroit, Then it does in Philly.3-2-1
2.92 GAA
.895 SV%
This thread got real quiet all of a sudden.
His numbers looked somewhat better in Detroit, Then it does in Philly.3-2-1
2.92 GAA
.895 SV%
This thread got real quiet all of a sudden.
If Mrazek goes 300-0 for the rest of his career that is a major knock on the Wings development. So yes, there should be concerns if Mrazek ends up being a very good goaltender and backstops a team to contender status. I understand why the trade was made considering the relationship he had with the team and his career to this point, but it is certainly possible the Wings sold very low on a goaltender that they didn't develop well and projected to be less than what he actually was.
But what he does this season really has little bearing on that discussion unless it continues going forward.
You are wrong again.He's full of himself and built himself up into something he's not so the crash down is that much more devastating; Hi, his infamous instagram post. Unless he's living in a state of denial.
And as tsw mentioned, he still struggles with stuff that should be trivial / elementary to any NHL goalie. Things that if he were as good as people claim he shouldn't have any problem correcting, and to be frank are the easiest things to fix because all it takes is reps.
It'll be interesting to see of someone throws him starter money, he accepts a back-up role, or heads to the KHL. Hopefully he gets two more wins first.
I don't think Peter or Jimmy had clearly won the role of starter, before the trade. I just assume that Petr's expiring contract was more attractive for the Flyers.
Simultaneously, I think even if Petr was still here, it's high time for Detroit to get serious about trying to draft and develop a new starting goalie. I was a little shocked to see a team with four picks in the third round, who already knew they were exposing a goalie to the expansion draft, wait until their fourth pick of that round to draft a goalie. Petruzzeli might be a lucky pick, but he was the eighth goalie selected in the draft last summer. When you have four third round picks to burn but you wait until the very last one, it says to me that you don't see the situation as all that important. I think they have to keep drafting goalies until they know they've got their next guy.
If his play suddenly changes and he becomes a top tier goaltender, you don't think that would raise red flags with how we developed him and the environment that possibly kept him from reaching his potential?They didn't develop well? He didn't progress because he didn't put the work in. What Mrazek does after this point is 100% inconsequential. Guys bust on one team and catch fire on another all the time. Mrazek sucks at things that should be second nature for a goalie and can hide these by being super athletic. It's why people think he's a good goalie even though he's a ****show at positioning and decision making.
90% of the time, if the goalie is making a huge save... it's because he ****ed up earlier. If Mrazek goes on to be a very good goaltender, it's because that he's gotten some sense knocked into him by a guy. It's that he's matured enough to realize he needs help. He was not going to do that in Detroit in the time frame that we would have him for.
If his play suddenly changes and he becomes a top tier goaltender, you don't think that would raise red flags with how we developed him and the environment that possibly kept him from reaching his potential?
Maybe he has a change of heart and motivation to get better once he signs for a new team during the off-season, assuming that happens. Do you think management has no impact on the motivations of a player?
The trade was fine to me because I don't see anything in Mrazek that says he will improve, but it speaks to the problems with the organization where we have a lot of mediocre assets and have to get rid of them to try and get some value.
If you able to read and comprehend, then you would be able to understand hockey and maybe discuss in a nice and polite manner. But obviously you can’t kiddo, long way to go.
Just because you are not able to comprehend what’s written, does not mean anything else but that you have to ask, and if I have time I might break it down to your level.
The one thing Mrazek is known for is his cockiness and confidence so I don't really buy into that argument for him. Other goalies, sure, I'll agree to an extent. But at the same token, you can't say Coreau is going to take Howard's starting spot if he finds his confidence amd do it with a straight face.You are wrong again.
All this technical stuff you talk about is not important as this stage.
All what matters now is mental, it is confidence.
Some goalies are not technically good, but if their find their game, they could be good.
If you able to read and comprehend, then you would be able to understand hockey and maybe discuss in a nice and polite manner. But obviously you can’t kiddo, long way to go.
Just because you are not able to comprehend what’s written, does not mean anything else but that you have to ask, and if I have time I might break it down to your level.
The one thing Mrazek is known for is his cockiness and confidence so I don't really buy into that argument for him. Other goalies, sure, I'll agree to an extent. But at the same token, you can't say Coreau is going to take Howard's starting spot if he finds his confidence amd do it with a straight face.
Sadly, if he keeps playing this way, we wont even get a 3rd rounder for him...
Anyone watch the game, is Phi playing horribly... or is Petr losing them games?
Mrazek isnt gonna get 2 more wins, is he?
Jimmy Howard?Why do we have this bad luck at drafting good goalies? Other than Osgood and Sawchuk what goaltender really stands out as good to elite that we've drafted?
Why do we have this bad luck at drafting good goalies? Other than Osgood and Sawchuk what goaltender really stands out as good to elite that we've drafted?
I'm not going to go full debate and derail this thread, but we're definitely going to have to agree to disagree about who is better between Howard and Osgood.NHL.com - Players
From this entire list as a goalie;
Howard, Osgood, Mrazek, Chevaldae are the best goalies drafted by the team in that order.
I'm not going to go full debate and derail this thread, but we're definitely going to have to agree to disagree about who is better between Howard and Osgood.
Howard almost unanimously has better regular season statistics. But yes, I agree it would be an interesting debate overall, with good points to be made on both sides.That's reasonable.
Ozzie has much bigger moments and more of a legacy., but he also played on FAR superior teams. I've never seen Howard pull an 09 Ozzie where he was dominant in a playoff run.
Howard almost unanimously has better goaltending statistics. Differences in the league and such.
If you did want to have the debate, I think it would actually be an interesting one.