Orr was a relentless fighter for sure but I think I have to disagree with some of your observations.
First of all, please excuse me asking this, but who or what is 'IIRC'?
When Orr fought, he had no respect for his opponent or any linesman who tried to restrain him. From what I've seen and heard, Orr lost both fights to Rosaire Paiement. Orr was also losing to Pat Quinn in their fight in Boston but fell on top of Quinn when Fred Stanfield pulled Quinn down from behind. Maybe the end result was Orr winning but he had a lot of help in that fight and a few others.
Orr did beat Ted Harris in his rookie year but Harris had an injured hand and was at a disavantage. the Edestrand fight looked like a draw to me.
As for Howe, its true that he wasn't challenged a lot and the Fontinato bout had something to do with it but the fact that Howe had no conscience and would cut a player's eye out, contributed to the lack of challenges. I know that Orland Kurtenbach challenged Howe in the 60's but Howe wouldn't drop his stick.
I don't know how this 'IIRC' says Howe's last fight was in 1951. Howe fought Fern Flaman around 1953 and didn't do all that well. In 1952, Howe was destroyed in a fight with Bill Juzda of the Leafs. I've shown that fight to disbelievers who had to change their opinion of Howe's fistic ability after watching it. Prior to that, Howe did not win a lot of his fights either and the ones he did win were against smaller guys like Howie Meeker.
I'm not saying Howe was a bad fighter but his reputation is built on one fight.
I've talked to players who were on the ice when Howe and Fontinato fought. It was a case where Howe had no choice to fight. Howe grabbed the onrushing Fontinato's sweater and landed one uppercut. The one punch did the damage as Fontinato was pretty well blinded by the resulting nose problem. Although hampered, Fontinato did land some punches and Howe was hurt as well - something that is conveniently not mentioned much.
The pictures in Life Magazine are what most people remember. It really wasn't as one-sided as people seem to think.
By the way, Red Kelly who won the Lady Bying Trophy and winner of the Golden Gloves while in school, was a superb fighter that wasn't challenged after his first one-sided fight against Vic Lynn.
I'm interested in finding out the source of this IIRC's findings.
Wetcoaster said:
Orr could really throw 'em. IIRC he is credited with 39 fights and never lost one of them including some classics including his revenge for the hit laid on him by Pat Quinn a year earlier. The picture of Orr on top of Quinn and pounding him into the ice made Life magazine.
Orr also schooled Keith Magnusson, Brad Park (another superstar who could throw down when needed), Rosaire Paiement, Darryl Edestrand, Bugsy Watson, Bill Clement, Vic Hatfield, etc.
No one bothered Howe for a number of years (almost 10 years - his last fight had been in 1951 IIRC) until Leapin' Lou Fontinato, the self-proclaimed toughest guy in the NHL, forgot why Howe was left alone. It was brutal and Howe demolished Fontinato's face. One linesman would later say it sounded like a side of beef being hit with a baseball bat as Howe beat on Fontinato. The linesmen stood back in awe as Howe laid a fearsome beating on Fontinato. If you can get your hands on a copy of the 16 Feb 1959 copy of Life magazine you can check out the pictures of Fontinato's destroyed face. He looked like ground round.