Rumor: Montreal has contacted Anaheim about moving up to 2

[Baksfamous112]

Moving out of top 4 is kinda dangerous…. Depending on your feelings towards michkov(historically Anaheim doesn’t draft many Russians but maybe that changed with pv)…. And if you think smith is on par with the top 3…. Which opinions seem pretty different on.

If I was going to move out of top 3…. I’d prob target Arizona.

2nd overall for 6 + 12 as a base

Not saying you should move out of the top 3 but historically speaking, the odds of 2 & 5 (for example) to be equally as good or one much better than the other are close enough. In terms of talent, I don’t think there is that big of a difference between Fantilli and whoever is going to be picked 5. You could get a Byfield at 2 and a Stutzle at 5 and vice versa.

I really don’t think it’s a good idea for Anaheim to move back at all but if they do decide they want to move back for X or Y reason, I don’t think the price would be astronomical. 5 & 31 should be enough. 6 & 12 for 2 & 34 should be enough as well.

However, if Anaheim doesn’t want to move down (which I don’t think they should but you never know anyway) then yeah, the ask should be high enough that it the cost to acquire to move up the draft isn’t worth it for the acquiring team

 

[Gliff]

50% chance that the 2oa pick ends up significantly better than Suzuki, (svech, eichel, seguin) about a 25% chance that they're good enough to justify the trade (hedman, doughty, barkov)

I can understand why ducks don't want to do it but it would be insane for the habs to do it as well

Totally agree. There is a reason top 3 picks don’t get moved. It costs way to much to be worth the risk.

 

[habsfan44]

Cause most of us think eventually zegras/mctavish will slot at wing.

Strength down middle is important, specially in western conference…. Getting a big strong center like fantilli or carlsson would be a priority to us

I understand the thought process but I think it's going to be hard to pass on a player who stood shoulder to shoulder , 1a-1b with Bedard before Putins military adventure in Ukraine . The Ducks should be picking high enough next couple of years(top 5) to draft big centers if needs be .

 

[BB88]

I understand the thought process but I think it's going to be hard to pass on a player who stood shoulder to shoulder , 1a-1b with Bedard before Putins military adventure in Ukraine . The Ducks should be picking high enough next couple of years(top 5) to draft big centers if needs be .

Habs fans really need to wake up to reality

 

[Donkeyz]

GMs doing their homework. Asking what such a trade would cost does not imply the Canadiens think it’s feasible.

 

[tkb81]

Ridiculous unless it was for 1st overall. There is no guarantee Fantilli, Carlsson etc will be any better than Suzuki or the 5th pick.


Only Bedard is a guaranteed franchise player.

Only a sith deals in absolutes

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I understand the thought process but I think it's going to be hard to pass on a player who stood shoulder to shoulder , 1a-1b with Bedard before Putins military adventure in Ukraine . The Ducks should be picking high enough next couple of years(top 5) to draft big centers if needs be .

If this is the case wouldn't Montreal be thrilled he'll likely drop to them at 5 rather than trading up to pick someone else?

 

[HabsAddict]

It makes sense to offer the ask for Dubois to move up the ladder. I rather have a cost controlle Fentilli then an 8 million Dubois.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I think the Habs would be fine with Smith or Leonard but there's no harm stoking the flames. I just don't see the point in giving up substantial assets for anyone other than Bedard who isn't available.

 

[habsfan44]

If this is the case wouldn't Montreal be thrilled he'll likely drop to them at 5 rather than trading up to pick someone else?

How would I know ? I'm only stating my opinion based on the limited amount of information available to me .

 

[Canadienna]

Personally I'd rather have Slafkovsky and Michkov than Fantilli (re: Slaf + 5thOA offers). But I could be wrong for sure.

Dach + unprotected 2024 1st would probably be my best offer.

Don't see why Anaheim takes it tbh.

 

[habsfan44]

Habs fans really need to wake up to reality

Do you mean the reality where posters opine on possible outcomes of things that haven't happened yet ?

 

[BB88]

Do you mean the reality where posters opine on possible outcomes of things that haven't happened yet ?

From the World where they think they are close to acquiring the 2nd overall pick.

There’s zero reports on Anaheim shopping the pick/willing to move the pick.
It’s fully Habs driven fantasy

 

[Gliff]

From the World where they think they are close to acquiring the 2nd overall pick.

There’s zero reports on Anaheim shopping the pick/willing to move the pick.
It’s fully Habs driven fantasy

In their defense, there wouldn’t be rumors out of Anaheim. They are as tight lipped as anyone.

I agree this is Montreal media driven though.

 

[habsfan44]

From the World where they think they are close to acquiring the 2nd overall pick.

There’s zero reports on Anaheim shopping the pick/willing to move the pick.
It’s fully Habs driven fantasy

What does any of this have to do with my opinion that the Ducks should draft Michkov with the number two pick ?

 

[Emerald Duck]

What does any of this have to do with my opinion that the Ducks should draft Michkov with the number two pick ?

Ducks won't draft Michkov at #2. The organization has not had a lot of success with KHL players, his availability is too uncertain, Verbeek wants to draft bigger players and Michkov doesn't fill our biggest need (#1C). Too many risks here for Anaheim to consider unless there is some unknown (and unrealistic) scenario where they move down to pick him later.

If he makes to the 2nd round then maybe ....

 

[Qwijibo]

From the World where they think they are close to acquiring the 2nd overall pick.

There’s zero reports on Anaheim shopping the pick/willing to move the pick.
It’s fully Habs driven fantasy

From the World where they think they are close to acquiring the 2nd overall pick.

There’s zero reports on Anaheim shopping the pick/willing to move the pick.
It’s fully Habs driven fantasy

I don’t think anyone actually thinks moving up from 5 to 2 is happening. Nor or the ridiculous overpays people are suggesting. Anaheim isn’t moving that pick and even if they were willing Montréal certainly would t be interested in giving up the some of the packages suggested here

 

[TT1]

With Zegras and McTavish down the middle I don't see how he gets past the Ducks .

Ducks will pick Carlsson at 2 if they want flexibility at W and C, personally i think that's what they'll do.

 

[habsfan44]

Ducks won't draft Michkov at #2. The organization has not had a lot of success with KHL players, his availability is too uncertain, Verbeek wants to draft bigger players and Michkov doesn't fill our biggest need (#1C). Too many risks here for Anaheim to consider unless there is some unknown (and unrealistic) scenario where they move down to pick him later.

If he makes to the 2nd round then maybe ....

You're probably right but I don't think it's out of the question that the Ducks take the generational scoring winger now because it's so early in the rebuild and then fill any perceived center needs with the high picks they know are coming over the next two to four years . Combine that with the young defensemen they already have in the fold , and it seems like a very a viable way of going forward for the team . Either way it's a win win situation for the Ducks .

 

[Gliff]

Ducks will pick Carlsson at 2 if they want flexibility at W and C, personally i think that's what they'll do.

It doesn’t matter. Zegras and McTavish can play the wing.

 

[Baksfamous112]

You're probably right but I don't think it's out of the question that the Ducks take the generational scoring winger now because it's so early in the rebuild and then fill any perceived center needs with the high picks they know are coming over the next two to four years . Combine that with the young defensemen they already have in the fold , and it seems like a very a viable way of going forward for the team . Either way it's a win win situation for the Ducks .

Please. You can do all the mental gymnastic you want but this is just not happening.

 

[pickles555]

This news and thread is a moot point,

I'm sure Montreal has inquired about moving up to #1, #2, #3, and #4

But, that is all it is, is an inquiry

There will be no movement in the top 5 positions this draft, to even think there will be, is ridiculous

 

[Fatass]

I'm sure Montreal has inquired about moving up to #1, #2, #3, and #4

But, that is all it is, is an inquiry

There will be no movement in the top 5 positions this draft, to even think there will be, is ridiculous

Yup. The difference in getting one of those four great centres and the guy at five is huge. Big drop off at five. It’s where the next group (about 8-10 deep) all kind of jumble together. The cost to move up even one spot would be prohibitive.

 

[Colezuki]

Yup. The difference in getting one of those four great centres and the guy at five is huge. Big drop off at five. It’s where the next group (about 8-10 deep) all kind of jumble together. The cost to move up even one spot would be prohibitive.

Except that drop off at five is only the case if you assume Michkov isn't a top 5 talent which everyone does, the only issue is his contract status.

 

[Fatass]

Except that drop off at five is only the case if you assume Michkov isn't a top 5 talent which everyone does, the only issue is his contract status.

True. Habs take Michkov and they get a guy who belongs in the top group.