Value of: Mitch Marner's Next Contract

[sessiroth]

How does Aho get 8? Hes probaby just as good and is a centre. Plus Canes fans actually think he's better so how does he get paid less?

Because he's not a leaf. same with point. Tampa fans think he'll sign for 7.5 but Marner gets 10? Keep dreaming haters

 

[sessiroth]

Cap reality is gonna set in, the cap has risen by like $7 million in the last few years and likely rises again by another $2-$3 mill this summer.

There's gonna be a reallignment coming for salary structure. $10 per will be the "old" $8 per, $8 per will become the old "$6 per", etc. etc. It's inevitable with a cap that keeps rising.

So based off of this Laine, Connor, Marner, Aho, Point etc are all gonna make 10m? Keep wishing

 

[Soundwave]

I think Tampa is gonna be in trouble with that Point contract, but they have the "Florida state tax" advantage going for them.

If Aho continues to produce like he is it's hard to argue against his agent if he's gonna ask for $8+.

Draisaitl got 8.5 on a lower cap and had lower sophomore and third years, even with McDavid provided Aho finishes around the PPG he's on now (which may well not happen).

 

[Soundwave]

So based off of this Laine, Connor, Marner, Aho, Point etc are all gonna make 10m? Keep wishing

Their agent's are simply not doing their jobs if they're not going to press hard for that.

I mean if Marner hits lets say 95 points ... that's worth way more than 8 million. If you hit 90+ in your third season, odds are you will hit 100+ a few times in your prime 20s.

 

[sessiroth]

I think Tampa is gonna be in trouble with that Point contract, but they have the "Florida state tax" advantage going for them.

If Aho continues to produce like he is it's hard to argue against his agent if he's gonna ask for $8+.

Draisaitl got 8.5 on a lower cap and had lower sophomore and third years, even with McDavid provided Aho finishes around the PPG he's on now (which may well not happen).

you can't justify Aho getting 8m and Marner getting 10m. So what? Rantanen is gonna make 12? Talking straight up nonsense. And theres perks to playing in Toronto you don't get anywhere else same as Tampa. Tampa has lower taxes, Toronto has better sponsorship deals

 

[Soundwave]

you can't justify Aho getting 8m and Marner getting 10m. So what? Rantanen is gonna make 12? Talking straight up nonsense. And theres perks to playing in Toronto you don't get anywhere else same as Tampa. Tampa has lower taxes, Toronto has better sponsorship deals

I think Rantanen will get 10, probably 10 flat. He deserves it to be honest, how many players in the NHL have his point totals in year 2 and 3. He could push for more I guess, we'll see. Ditto for Marner too.

 

[sessiroth]

Their agent's are simply not doing their jobs if they're not going to press hard for that.

I mean if Marner hits lets say 95 points ... that's worth way more than 8 million. If you hit 90+ in your third season, odds are you will hit 100+ a few times in your prime 20s.

That's not true at all Backstrom hit 100 points once in his career and it was early on. Again, you guys are quick to point out Marner is on the same level as point Aho Connor etc except when it comes to resigning.

 

[Jozay]

8.5-9 million a year over 8 years

 

[sessiroth]

I think Rantanen will get 10, probably 10 flat. He deserves it to be honest, how many players in the NHL have his point totals in year 2 and 3. He could push for more I guess, we'll see. Ditto for Marner too.

HF boards.
Ratanen >>>>>> Marner
But they should sign for the same amount that also happens to be more then there other comparables like Aho point Connor. Ok. Again where's your logic?

 

[Soundwave]

That's not true at all Backstrom hit 100 points once in his career and it was early on. Again, you guys are quick to point out Marner is on the same level as point Aho Connor etc except when it comes to resigning.

Well I think Carolina and Winnipeg are gonna have to pay up too.

 

[Soundwave]

HF boards.
Ratanen >>>>>> Marner
But they should sign for the same amount that also happens to be more then there other comparables like Aho point Connor. Ok. Again where's your logic?

I think if Rantanen hits 90+ points or even 100, he has a legit case for $11+ mill per, maybe he won't push that hard. I would not blame his agent, 84 points and lets say 98 points in his third year ... you gotta pay that man.

We're just seeing a bumper crop of elite young talent in the league.

 

[sessiroth]

Well I think Carolina and Winnipeg are gonna have to pay up too.

I'm ok with that. If the market indicates that they're all gonna get 10m then so be it. I doubt it but to say x player is gonna sign for 7 while x player is gonna sign for 10 when they're comparables is a hard sale.

 

[Deen]

It's going to be over 8.

 

[sessiroth]

I think Dubas has to sign Matthews right away. Wait with Marner. He won't(betting on) sign an offer sheet. He grew up leaf fan and won't leave in such a way. You see how much Point signs for. how much Kyle Connor and Aho sign for and go from there. Reminds me of a few years ago when a bunch of young top 4 dmen were coming off ELC. (Trouba Lindholm Rielly)

Edit: Also make no mistake about it. GM's are all talking together about there young upcoming rfa forwards and what the ask is and how much they're willing to spend. Carolinas GM said he spoke to Dubas about contracts already.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I think Tampa is gonna be in trouble with that Point contract, but they have the "Florida state tax" advantage going for them.

If Aho continues to produce like he is it's hard to argue against his agent if he's gonna ask for $8+.

Draisaitl got 8.5 on a lower cap and had lower sophomore and third years, even with McDavid provided Aho finishes around the PPG he's on now (which may well not happen).

Draisaitl easily had the better sophomore year

 

[Soundwave]

Draisaitl easily had the better sophomore year

Leon's sophomore year was 50 points.

 

[Halla]

Everyone's hung up about Nylander, but I kinda think Marner is going to be more interesting. Currently in the top 5 in the NHL in scoring, you gotta figure he's quickly playing himself out of the $8 mill range and into a number that could be in the $10 per range.

Marner is outproducing Eichel who signed at $10 mill, and Eichel signed when the cap was lower.

Kucherov coming off a bridge, had 100pts, and signed for 9.5

Marner isnt getting 10

8x8.5

 

[Halla]

Everyone saying 10mill are full of ****. Do they think Laine makes 10m? Does point make 10m? What about aho, is he making 10m? Haters gonna hate

pretty much this

most gonna guess aho signs a reasonable 8x8 deal or something

just can't stand the leafs being really good i guess

 

[Soundwave]

Kucherov coming off a bridge, had 100pts, and signed for 9.5

Marner isnt getting 10

8x8.5

9.5 in Tampa is "really" like 11 anywhere else because of their tax setup, using Tampa players as a comparable really doesn't work great. I'm sure agents jump all over that the moment the GM tries to bring that up.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Kucherov coming off a bridge, had 100pts, and signed for 9.5

Marner isnt getting 10

8x8.5

Taxes bud.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Actually I do think Laine will get 10+ too. He will probably finish the season strong, and who knows how far Winnipeg goes in the playoffs. Aho will get 8.

Aho is clearly the better player. No way Laine is gettin 10+, no freaking way. You don't pay 10 million for someone that has 2 5v5 points so far this season.

 

[Soundwave]

Aho is clearly the better player. No way Laine is gettin 10+, no freaking way. You don't pay 10 million for someone that has 2 5v5 points so far this season.

Laine will get hot at some point.

 

[Alklha]

Tax situations do impact these things, but so do RFA years remaining. While a $9.5m AAV is worth significantly more in Tampa than in Toronto, Marner also has 4 RFA years compared to Kucherov only having 1.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Laine will get hot at some point.

I sure do hope Winnipeg pays Laine 10 million because it would be a bad contract.

 

[Claypool]

Mitch Marner's agent is Darren Ferris.

Have fun with that one.