Value of: Mitch Marner

[elmaco]

Is it?

What makes you think so? The players or the contracts?

Im not gonna bite on this one

 

[mikemar1]

I think they have to move on from Marner due to the flat cap. If they don't move out some cap they will be mired in mediocrity until they can rebuid and Mathews leaves

 

[mikemar1]

Would marner + Rielly for Jones + Laine be something to work a deal around?

Don't want anything to do with that headcase Laine

 

[BananaSquad]

Eichel for Marner is good for this Buffalo fan. Much rather have Marner than more picks/prospects.

 

[SM]

As a Jets fan I would love to see something around Connor for Marner (slight retention - 1.5M or so). Gives Leafs a better scorer at a cheaper price, gives Jets a top-tier passer and right-handed player to replace Wheeler who is bound to fall off a cliff soon. Both have been relative playoff choke-artists thus far.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Alexander Holtz and NJ’s first (~5th overall)

If Toronto uses the cap space to re-sign Hyman and pick up a Saad, Coleman or Palmeiri in FA this is what Dubas should be aiming for.

If cap needs to be worked around maybe include Wood or the rights to Ryan Murray and balance with picks.

Toronto drafts one of Power, Edvinsson, Clarke or Hughes at #4 whichever makes it there.

 

[Notsince67]

It's really hard to nail down Marner's value with the rumblings of the cap being flat for 5 years

Cap will go up 2mm after next year. Book it

 

[BfantZ]

Klingberg + pick 14 for marner 2.5m retained ?

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

What could he go for in the offseason?

Skinner and 1st overall

 

[Felixf21]

Klingberg + pick 14 for marner 2.5m retained ?

I don't like marner but that's not even close. Klingberg is a rental and wasn't too good last season.

 

[Burnie97]

Klingberg + pick 14 for marner 2.5m retained ?

That's about a 3/10 trade offer.

 

[57special]

Eichel for Marner is good for this Buffalo fan. Much rather have Marner than more picks/prospects.

Marner on one RW, Skinner on another. How could that go wrong?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Marner on one RW, Skinner on another. How could that go wrong?

Marner is overpaid by a mill and is a 90 point player. Skinner is top 3 worst contract in the NHL.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

...Marner to Seattle for the return of Leaf Legend Jared McCann straight up??...

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Toronto fans: "Marner is overrated, can't drive the play on his own, doesn't show up in the playoffs, and his contract is horrible. We have to trade him."

Also Toronto fans: "looool at all of your offers. We need "A" prospects and 1sts back."

Pick one.

If a trade were really on the table (which I doubt), most GMs would be pretty up front with Dubas about seeing him as more of a Leafs cap dump than a value add for their team. Not to say it can't be both, but it absolutely is both, and emphasis needs to be placed on the cap circumstances around any Marner trade. His contract is laughable, the cap will be flat for likely another 4-5 years, and if he continues to put up similar 1.15 ppg production as he's basically done throughout his career so far, he's going to want a raise at the end of it when the cap is still barely higher than it is now.

I think the Leaf fans who want him to be traded need to be more realistic about what they'd get back. A combination of "B" prospects, middle six forwards, 2nd pairing dmen, and 2nd round picks are what you're looking at in a trade with 0% retained and no awful cap dumps going the other way.

If his contract were more in the Aho to Rantanen range, this would be an entirely different discussion. 11 million for a support winger (a really damn good one, but a support player nonetheless) is just completely insane in this climate though.

Your just flat out wrong, but love the confidence.

 

[CamelToews]

...Marner to Seattle for the return of Leaf Legend Jared McCann straight up??...

Real good proposal here...

 

[Pengu]

We'll be back here again next off season when Marner has extended his playoff streak to 25 games without a goal....

 

[Dondini]

Marner is overpaid by a mill and is a 90 point player. Skinner is top 3 worst contract in the NHL.

Marner is over paid more than a mill. He plays with the best goal scoring center in the league. He’s soft and has a tough time scoring. I do believe he will find a way to be successful in the playoffs but as of now he’s overpaid by about 3.5 million

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Marner is over paid more than a mill. He plays with the best goal scoring center in the league. He’s soft and has a tough time scoring. I do believe he will find a way to be successful in the playoffs but as of now he’s overpaid by about 3.5 million

Marner is a superstar with or without matthews and has proven he can carry his own line in the regular season. Playoffs have been rough for him but he's still young. Marner should be making 9 to 9.5 million so hes 1.5 overpaid. Your statement that he is 3.5 mill overpaid is ridiculous.

 

[Pietrangelo]

Marner is over paid more than a mill. He plays with the best goal scoring center in the league. He’s soft and has a tough time scoring. I do believe he will find a way to be successful in the playoffs but as of now he’s overpaid by about 3.5 million

Overpaid by 3.5million is a little bit of an exaggeration, but I don’t think you’re too far off. Hypothetically, if he was a UFA this off season, I would not be giving him 11m for the next 4 years. I would be looking closer to the 8.5/9m range.

He’s a great player, and I know 32 teams that would take him in a heart beat, but probably only about 3/4 teams could afford him at 11M and be successful at the same time. Leafs are not one of them.

 

[Dynamite Time]

Seattle still has some guys to sign from ED but will still have plenty of cap space; they also have 10 d-men. Does Francis make a move to get Marner?

 

[namttebih]

So you play Tavares on the third line ?

Wing.

Shuffle those $11M deck chairs baby

 

[Dondini]

Marner is a superstar with or without matthews and has proven he can carry his own line in the regular season. Playoffs have been rough for him but he's still young. Marner should be making 9 to 9.5 million so hes 1.5 overpaid. Your statement that he is 3.5 mill overpaid is ridiculous.

indont think I’m that far off yah he’s put up 90 points but goal scoring is at a premium in this league and he’s not very good at it. I think he’s an 8 million dollar forward. What’s he at 10.6? So yah 3.5 I agree is to much I’m comfortable saying 2.5 over paid tho

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Marner on one RW, Skinner on another. How could that go wrong?

This is a strange comparison. One actually produces like a top line player, the other one gets paid to produce like a 3rd line player.

 

[Henkka]

Interesting that Marner has been paid 40.6M with this new contract...

...and he has scored 0 playoff goals under this contract.