Proposal: Mitch Marner for young potential #1D

[Lays]

Tanev is worth much more, you don't get a top pair, and best shut down D for scraps....at least that's what i keep reading....

Playing the victim card here that's low buddy.

 

[Liferleafer]

Playing the victim card here that's low buddy.

Victim card? Go read any Tanev to Leafs thread.....then tell me what i posted that was wrong.

Oh, and sarcasm is actually a thing....

 

[Boxscore]

And it's not like the Leafs D is terrible. Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitsev are 3 very good defensemen. So unless an absolute monster is coming back, there is zero reason to breakup the Big 3 forwards. The same way I don't see the Jets breaking up their young core 3F of Scheifele, Laine, Ehlers.

If the Leafs traded Marner for Tanev, there would (and should) be riots in front of the ACC.

 

[Holymakinaw]

To Vancouver
Mitch Marner

To Toronto
Chris Tanev
Olli Juolevi
2nd round pick

:p

LMAO. What a garbage deal for the Leafs!!

 

[Dan Kelly]

LMAO. What a garbage deal for the Leafs!!

Wouldn't say it's garbage, it all depends on how good Juolevi becomes. But the Leafs lose a pretty good point producer with no replacement.

 

[BAM]

It's funny how you'll have some fans of other teams projecting their D-men as top pairing/#1 or that potential due to underlying statistics but for years when Leaf fans did that with Gardiner or Rielly or Zaitsev the notion was completely shut down. Or how when the situation is reversed it doesn't matter.

 

[LakeLivin]

Did I miss it, or has no one suggested Hanifin <--> Marner? Seems like someone would have thrown this out there given both teams relative yute strengths and that they were taken 1 slot apart in the 2015 draft.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Uhh pretty sure Marner has quite a bit of value too. I wouldnt say way more than Mitch. thats ridiculous.

Not really. 6'5", RH, moves well, long reach, booming shot and doesn't shy away from physical battles to say the least.

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small scoring winger, unless you're thinking Marner is going to be as good as Pat Kane, which i guess would be personal opinion then.

Mitch obviously has a ton of value, but Parayko is the type of dman GM's salivate over.

 

[Hunter368]

It's funny how you'll have some fans of other teams projecting their D-men as top pairing/#1 or that potential due to underlying statistics but for years when Leaf fans did that with Gardiner or Rielly or Zaitsev the notion was completely shut down. Or how when the situation is reversed it doesn't matter.

All fan bases do projecting within their own forum and all fan bases down play other teams prospects/players. This is not unique to the Leafs, literally look in any trade thread.

 

[TheKingPin]

And it's not like the Leafs D is terrible. Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitsev are 3 very good defensemen. So unless an absolute monster is coming back, there is zero reason to breakup the Big 3 forwards. The same way I don't see the Jets breaking up their young core 3F of Scheifele, Laine, Ehlers.

If the Leafs traded Marner for Tanev, there would (and should) be riots in front of the ACC.

The jets and leafs are different in that the leafs look to contend for a division title and the jets look like they may miss the playoffs. The jets are still building. The leafs may have maxed. the top end talent they have for the next 10-15 years.

 

[The ORB]

He doesn't get you a young, up and coming 1D. Parayko, Lindholm, Trouba, Provy etc he doesn't get you at all. They have much more value due to position. Marner is overrated and the worst of the big three imo.

If these D prospects are so much more valuable than forwards, why dont they all get drafted first?

Why did Marner get picked ahead of any D, including Hanifin, Provorov, Werenski, Chabot etc etc?

 

[Brock Radunske]

Did I miss it, or has no one suggested Hanifin <--> Marner? Seems like someone would have thrown this out there given both teams relative yute strengths and that they were taken 1 slot apart in the 2015 draft.

No offense to Hanifin but no one mentioned him because they're not comparable in terms of value currently.

 

[LakeLivin]

oops, see below.

 

[LakeLivin]

No offense to Hanifin but no one mentioned him because they're not comparable in terms of value currently.

I agree with you, but that doesn't seem to stop a lot of trade proposals here, lol. The OP did say "potential #1 d-man" which I believe Hanifin still is, but I probably should have specified an add that would offset the additional risk that the difference in their development currently presents.

 

[Brock Radunske]

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Fair enough. I'm a pretty big Hanifin fan and if he was a RHD I'd probably be more interested. I think he can be a top-pairing guy in the Jbo mold.
Unfortunately the Leafs are so heavy on LHD on the team and in the pipe its becoming a bit of a problem

 

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To Vancouver
Mitch Marner

To Toronto
Chris Tanev
Olli Juolevi
2nd round pick

:p

Marner is not for sale. Especially for table scraps like that.

Canucks fans, you are not getting Marner or Nylander for Tanev. Stop proposing it every 2 days. Never going to happen.

 

[LakeLivin]

Fair enough. I'm a pretty big Hanifin fan and if he was a RHD I'd probably be more interested. I think he can be a top-pairing guy in the Jbo mold.
Unfortunately the Leafs are so heavy on LHD on the team and in the pipe its becoming a bit of a problem

Similarly, from a positional perspective, if the Canes were to add much to Hanifin it would much more likely be for a center. Still, a little surprised the two names haven't been brought up in any context given that they could easily have been reversed at the 2015 draft and that many on here don't consider the level of detail that you brought up (left vs right).

 

[topshelf15]

RHD or LHD ??

 

[Starat327]

If these D prospects are so much more valuable than forwards, why dont they all get drafted first?

Why did Marner get picked ahead of any D, including Hanifin, Provorov, Werenski, Chabot etc etc?

Because D are generally harder to project until they're actually playing against NHL players, and generally take longer to develop.

Most people want instant gratification from a top 3 or 'early' pick, and forwards are able to jump in and provide that more often than defensemen.

 

[Jared Dunn]

He's been better than Rielly for some time now.

I disagree, don't think it's far apart but I still prefer Rielly

 

[Contenderorpretender]

If they

Marner is not for sale. Especially for table scraps like that.

Canucks fans, you are not getting Marner or Nylander for Tanev. Stop proposing it every 2 days. Never going to happen.

If they Changed the second to an unprotected first. I would think hard about it. Since I fully expect Vancouver to be bottom 3 this year

 

[34]

If they


If they Changed the second to an unprotected first. I would think hard about it. Since I fully expect Vancouver to be bottom 3 this year

Joined yesterday. I wonder what Nucks's fans alter ego this is. lol

and NO, Marner is not for sale.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Joined yesterday. I wonder what Nucks's fans alter ego this is. lol

and NO, Marner is not for sale.

Lol marner can be sold for the right price, if it makes the team better.

 

[34]

Lol marner can be sold for the right price, if it makes the team better.

10 Tanev’s will not get you a sniff of Marner.

Teams do not trade players like Marner. Championships are build around guys like him.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

10 Tanev’s will not get you a sniff of Marner.

Teams do not trade players like Marner. Championships are build around guys like him.

The offer was tanev juolevi and a 2nd. I said an unconditional first and I think hard about it. That's a great package. Marner is a great young player and will only continue to develop. But you can't tell me a top 4 dman a prospect drafted top 5 and a potential top 5 pick this year doesn't make you think about making a trade. Offence isn't and won't be the leafs problem for a long time.