Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] Kirill Kaprizov re-signs with the Wild (5 years, $9M AAV)

[P10p]

He’s been exceptional (a bit of an exaggeration) for 55 games. Apparently that is worth $45M now.

You're only looking at his stat line and not considering context when drawing your conclusion. How many times has this kind of logic been proven absurd when evaluating players?

 

[Hanji]

NHL career

51 points in 55 regular season games
3 points in 7 playoff games

5 years at 9 million cap hit per year. That is just crazy.

i dunno. He’d easily have an extra 15 points if he played with a center with any talent.

 

[Kshahdoo]

i dunno. He’d easily have an extra 15 points if he played with a center with any talent.

Yeah, I love it, when Toronto fans talk about how great Marner is. Imagine, if Kaprizov played with Matthews, though...

 

[GuerinUp]

This thread summed up "what a terrible contract this guys only played 55 regular season games against a handful of teams, you should trade this primadonna (to my team)"

 

[guitarhunterdude]

This thread summed up "what a terrible contract this guys only played 55 regular season games against a handful of teams, you should trade this primadonna (to my team)"

"With that contract? Third rounder, 50% retained, best I can do"

 

[MuckOG]

Gusev is a functional comparable no matter how you slice it.

No he wasn’t as good in the KHL at the same age, but did explode soon after once he was traded and NJ based their expectations on his KHL performance. He also had a good (not great) first season and then dropped off dramatically. I’m not comparing them skill wise, I’m comparing their situations.

Are you really trying to state there’s no way that a guy with 55 regular season games may not have enough sample for us to know what he really is, and there’s no chance he won’t drop off or remain the same? Interesting theory.

Older players posting points in the KHL is about the same as older players putting up big points in the AHL or over-agers in the CHL. Just not that impressive. What separates players like Tarasenko, Kuznetsov, Panarin and Kaprizov from players like Gusev is the age in which they put up their numbers. The former list of players started producing pretty much right away, Gusev didn't have a 30+ point season until he was 23 years old.

With regards to the bolded, of course there's a chance. But I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[Hanji]

Good lord the privilege we accord these athletes! I would love to have control over my employers. Crazy!

It's not crazy considering the NHL isn't a regular business entity bound to labor laws.

I'd say a NTC equals things out a bit in light of the NHL being able to eschew standard labor and antitrust laws.

 

[Hanji]

This thread summed up "what a terrible contract this guys only played 55 regular season games against a handful of teams, you should trade this primadonna (to my team)"

To be fair, that other Kaprizov thread is full of Minnesota fans screaming "He only played 55 games and he's holding out for a ridiculous shorter term payday? What a primadonna!"

 

[ThatGuy22]

To be fair, that other Kaprizov thread is full of Minnesota fans screaming "He only played 55 games and he's holding out for a ridiculous shorter term payday? What a primadonna!"

I mean, we were saying the reported 5 x 9m AAV was a fair offer, and BG shouldn't cave.

He didn't, and it's exactly what was signed.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

To be fair, that other Kaprizov thread is full of Minnesota fans screaming "He only played 55 games and he's holding out for a ridiculous shorter term payday? What a primadonna!"

That was more about the process and the threats vs the term and the dollars. And I still say that his camp needlessly dragged this through the mud only to get to the same, fair place they likely could have gotten too weeks (if not months) ago.

But whatever

 

[Habs Halifax]

You're only looking at his stat line and not considering context when drawing your conclusion. How many times has this kind of logic been proven absurd when evaluating players?

What context are you using to prove the logic to be absurd?

 

[P10p]

What context are you using to prove the logic to be absurd?

The Victor Rask X-factor.

For example, February 26th through April 7th:

Rask- 22gp 2g 5a 7pts
Zuccarello- 20gp 3g 10a 13pts
Kaprizov- 22gp 12g 7a 19pts

This despite Rask getting time on PP1 and playing on a line with Zuc and Kaprizov. Talk about getting weighed down....

 

[NYRKing]

The one season argument really lacks context with Kaprizov. He has superstar skills and displayed those superstar skills for years as a seasoned KHL pro. Literally nothing changed in his first pro-year. There's risk with every long-term contract, but this is such an easy decision at this cap. If anything I'm sure the Wild wanted more years from him.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The one season argument really lacks context with Kaprizov. He has superstar skills and displayed those superstar skills for years as a seasoned KHL pro. Literally nothing changed in his first pro-year. There's risk with every long-term contract, but this is such an easy decision at this cap. If anything I'm sure the Wild wanted more years from him.

Definitely did.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Let’s break this down. He wanted a 3 year deal so he could cash in and get his Panarin deal after.
Years 1-3 (RFA): 7.5M
Years 4-5(UFA): 11.25M

Total Value: 45M over 5 years

 

[nightonthesun]

Looks like a good deal for a really good player to me. Lots of sour grapes here. Congrats minny fans.


And now, back to hating your guts. <3

 

[nbwingsfan]

You're only looking at his stat line and not considering context when drawing your conclusion. How many times has this kind of logic been proven absurd when evaluating players?

Nope. I’m looking at the context of someone getting $45M after 55 games over ONE season. It’s a massive, massive risk and sets a bad standard.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I mean, we were saying the reported 5 x 9m AAV was a fair offer, and BG shouldn't cave.

He didn't, and it's exactly what was signed.

Can you name any player who’s ever signed a similar type contract? How is this “fair” given the context of every contract signed around the NHL?

 

[north21]

To be fair, that other Kaprizov thread is full of Minnesota fans screaming "He only played 55 games and he's holding out for a ridiculous shorter term payday? What a primadonna!"

Can we all just agree that everyone was wrong except they were all right about liking/complaining about 5 by 9. Also you cant get a Madonna at primadonna prices it just doesnt happen. Fingers crossed for full-madonna!

 

[ThatGuy22]

Can you name any player who’s ever signed a similar type contract? How is this “fair” given the context of every contract signed around the NHL?

Can you name any player that has had similar circumstances? I can only name one, and even that's not a match because Panarin didn't have a pandemic eating a year of his ELC through no fault of the player or team.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Can you name any player that has had similar circumstances? I can only name one, and even that's not a match because Panarin didn't have a pandemic eating a year of his ELC through no fault of the player or team.

I’ve seen many players be offered a contract after just one season of NHL play yes. They weren’t given anything else even close to this in terms of contract.

 

[Albatros]

Nope. I’m looking at the context of someone getting $45M after 55 games over ONE season. It’s a massive, massive risk and sets a bad standard.

Kaprizov has been one of the best players in the world for years already, there's no unduly risk.

 

[Goose312]

I’ve seen many players be offered a contract after just one season of NHL play yes. They weren’t given anything else even close to this in terms of contract.

Players who were in their mid 20's so couldn't be bridged without walking them right to UFA, who had incredibly good seasons and only 1 year in the league? Care to name some of them?

 

[ThatGuy22]

I’ve seen many players be offered a contract after just one season of NHL play yes. They weren’t given anything else even close to this in terms of contract.

You've seen many players offered a contract after 1 season at 24 years old, after destroying the second best league in the world for 4 seasons, leading their team in goals(40 goal pace) and points while taking home the Calder in their lone season?

I'd be curious to see the list of players that fit Kaprizov's circumstances...

 

[AKL]

Nope. I’m looking at the context of someone getting $45M after 55 games over ONE season. It’s a massive, massive risk and sets a bad standard.

Marner got $65M after one 90+ point season. I don't think the 60-70 point player he was prior to that was what got him almost 11M AAV.
Draisaitl got 8.5M AAV for one almost point per game season.
Aho got 8.5M for one point per game season.
Pastrnak got almost 7M AAV for one good season.
Larkin got paid based on one good season.
Meier got paid based on one good season.