Prospect Info: Mikhail Sergachev Part III

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ChesterNimitz

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We need to hope Sergachev can make an NHL impact next season because Markov can no longer be relied upon as a top 4 D. Every year come play off time he runs out of gas.

We need Sergachev to be an impact player to counter the powerhouse that is arising down the 401. Unless we have the horses to match Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc. whatever window Montreal has, will close very abruptly. Very abruptly indeed.
 

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We need to hope Sergachev can make an NHL impact next season because Markov can no longer be relied upon as a top 4 D. Every year come play off time he runs out of gas.

As others have said before, Markov is still an excellent top 4. Not a single GM or player would disagree with that. Fans that watch the game on a stat sheet and see his age will say these kinds of things. If you watch every game of every team, you'll see that every defensemen sometimes make bad plays, have bad shifts, bad games and bad stretches.
 

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As others have said before, Markov is still an excellent top 4. Not a single GM or player would disagree with that. Fans that watch the game on a stat sheet and see his age will say these kinds of things. If you watch every game of every team, you'll see that every defensemen sometimes make bad plays, have bad shifts, bad games and bad stretches.

Each subsequent year could reasonably be expected to be Markov's last.
 

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Fowler is a better skater and is infinitely smarter. Nothing wrong with Sergei's skating but Fowler is on another level.

People need to take of the fan glasses and recognize that this kid is in big trouble as his hockey IQ is close to non existent. I have followed prospects for over 30 years and am not sure that I have seen many if any top ten picks with a lower IQ.

Timmins has a disturbing trend of picking low IQ players with his top picks.......Fischer, Kostitsyn, Kristo, Tinordi, McCarron and now Sergachev. Scherbak is one where I am on the fence with as IQ certainly isn't a strength for him. Starting to look like Timminis is no different tnan the body building meat heads that he trains with.

Man, tough crowd in here.

Close to non-existent hockey IQ, pretty harsh analysis. Don't know if I agree with that at all, and I don't think adding you've followed prospects for 30 years helps you, not if you've been doing it wrong for all that time.
 

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We need Sergachev to be an impact player to counter the powerhouse that is arising down the 401. Unless we have the horses to match Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc. whatever window Montreal has, will close very abruptly. Very abruptly indeed.


We don't actually have a window. I honestly think we might have without having traded Subban for Weber. But now that Weber is on the decline, and we don't have Subban's dynamism, we just don't have the offense to be a contender. The window is closed and locked from the inside until we somehow get some offense. And I don't know how we're going to do that.
 

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We don't actually have a window. I honestly think we might have without having traded Subban for Weber. But now that Weber is on the decline, and we don't have Subban's dynamism, we just don't have the offense to be a contender. The window is closed and locked from the inside until we somehow get some offense. And I don't know how we're going to do that.

Can you tell me how is Weber on the decline?
 

ChesterNimitz

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We don't actually have a window. I honestly think we might have without having traded Subban for Weber. But now that Weber is on the decline, and we don't have Subban's dynamism, we just don't have the offense to be a contender. The window is closed and locked from the inside until we somehow get some offense. And I don't know how we're going to do that.

If Subban was your Messiah, then Montreal's supposed 'window' was truly illusionary.
 

Cole Caulifield

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He guy is a top 30 D in the league, absolutely no respect :laugh: one mistake makes a year.

Another player you overrate like crazy who has been with the habs forever and hasn't led us anywhere.

And you laugh it up like it's all good.

Markov was a non-factor offensively in this year's playoffs. He was also a factor negatively defensively. He has a history of being injured.

He's a good player but as long as we head into playoffs thinking he's a top player for us we're doomed to fail. We're putting all our bets on the wrong horses atm.

Same thing with Pacioretty.

As others have said before, Markov is still an excellent top 4. Not a single GM or player would disagree with that. Fans that watch the game on a stat sheet and see his age will say these kinds of things. If you watch every game of every team, you'll see that every defensemen sometimes make bad plays, have bad shifts, bad games and bad stretches.

It's precisely the opposite though. Markov looks great on any stat sheet.

Also age is a real thing that makes players worse. Markov could completely fall off a cliff any day now.
 

Cole Caulifield

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Subban was the best skater this hockey club has had since Chelios.

At this point, with our mentality, with the market, with our management, I honestly think that we will never again get a good forward. Ever. The fact Subban could/might be our best skater since Chelios is insane. Jesus christ we've sucked ass non-stop for years.
 

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He's 32 years old and he statistically had his worst year since his rookie season.. 2+2= ?

Stop inventing stuff.

He finished this season with .54 PPG.

Apart from his rookie season, in 07/08 he was .37 PPG and in 06/07 .51 PPG.

He has 6 seasons where he finished between .50 ppg and .60 ppg, a difference of a couple of points. Decline my arse...
 

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Stop inventing stuff.

He finished this season with .54 PPG.

Apart from his rookie season, in 07/08 he was .37 PPG and in 06/07 .51 PPG.

He has 6 seasons where he finished between .50 ppg and .60 ppg, a difference of a couple of points. Decline my arse...

Thanks for corroborating my story, he's had his worst season since his first three in the league.

Decline!
 

ChesterNimitz

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Subban was the best skater this hockey club has had since Chelios.

If Subban was indeed our best skater since Chelios, it explains why we haven't won a Stanley Cup in a quarter of a century.

As I have opined for the past 3 or so years, once Subban bulked up he lost most of his straight line speed. He is no longer the dynamic puck transporting player he was in junior hockey or his first few years with the Canadiens. Nor does he play that role with the Predators.
 

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We need Sergachev to be an impact player to counter the powerhouse that is arising down the 401. Unless we have the horses to match Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc. whatever window Montreal has, will close very abruptly. Very abruptly indeed.

I'm afraid of that powerhouse. Those Leafs fans will hunt us for the next 10 years if we don't change our core. We won't have the upper hand soon anymore.

Our only hope is for Galchenyuk to finally start becoming an offensive force for us. He needs to show the league that he's not a complementary player but on the other hand, a catalyst. The one who other players fear. Not a 3rd line winger that disappears.

Then add in young players like Lehkonen and Sergachev. We have those 2 that can become special players. Other in line would be Scherbak. That remains to be seen if he can turn out anything close to a top 6 winger. Victor Mete, Lernout might contribute but have many years before coming into our lineup.

We need to add to that core: Galchenyuk, Lehkonen and Sergachev.

The rest:

Carey Price
Shea Weber
Alex Radulov(if resigned)
Max Pacioretty
Brendan Gallagher

That's about it. That's our team.

Matthews-Nylander-Marner demonstrate more potential than any of our young players. We have to counter. We have to trust Galchenyuk becoming an offensive force. We can't only settle for 60 pts from him. He needs to be a PPG player. playing 18-20 mins per game. Sergachev is better than all of the Leafs dmen prospects. We have that over them.
 

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Do you understand the difference between amateur scouts and pro scouts ? Timmins has nothing to do with pro scouting. Nothing at all.

Yeah, except Carbonneau is the guy who pushed for DD 100%. If Timmins had liked him out of the Q, he could have used a 7th rounder on him at any time. Except he didn't... please. (Mod)

Director of scouting. The Habs didn't have directors of pro scouting and amateur scouting under gainey. Just a director of scouting. Timmins was also in charge of player development under Gainey too.

Bergevin split the one role into three.
 

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Yeah, except Carbonneau is the guy who pushed for DD 100%. If Timmins had liked him out of the Q, he could have used a 7th rounder on him at any time. Except he didn't... please. (Mod)

Do you really think Carbo said, hey Bob, sign this guy. And Bob handed him a contract on the recommendation of his head coach who wasn't scouting, and didn't ask his head scout for an opinion?

Thats not how an organization works.
 

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Do you really think Carbo said, hey Bob, sign this guy. And Bob handed him a contract on the recommendation of his head coach who wasn't scouting, and didn't ask his head scout for an opinion?

Thats not how an organization works.

Well if it was Bergevin and Therrien I bet that's exactly how it would have happened to be honest.
 

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Its been explained to you many times now. At this point you're just not accepting it because you don't want to. Weber used to be an all world dman, not he's basically just a PP specialist.

This is ridiculous and you guys need to stop passing it off as a fact just because you want it to be true. Give it a break.
 
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