Mike Ribeiro

Ajax1995

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I hate doing your homework for you, because you're lazy and like to put the onus on others, but this was easy.

In 5 mins I found a post of mine from 12/2009 suggesting the Caps listen to all trade offers for Semin.


Also from my Nostradamus files January 2010:

"Is it really a stretch to think that we've seen the best that Semin will be at this level? He's got the talent to put up 50/50 for sure, but he's been unable to stay healthy (so far) and he doesn't have the inner fire to compete at a high level every night. While I certainly wouldn't mind holding onto him (for $6.5 or less), I wouldn't be against moving him in the right deal now. Letting him walk next summer would be a huge blunder. He's extended for another year which would give another team time to lock him up. His value is high right now IMO."


You may address me as Fence Sitter...

Fixed that for you...

Ok let me get on record now: I really think the Caps should listen to trade offers for anyone and everyone. I wouldn't be against holding on to most/all of them but if the right offer comes along I wouldn't be against moving them.

How's that, am I covered going forward now...?
 

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Bah. I still think this years team should have had Semin and Ribeiro. It's all dust in the wind now anyways.
 

usiel

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McPhee sucks. Back to not caring.

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Stewie G

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So if I go back to late November 2010 I am going to find a number of posts from you saying essentially, 'I don't care that he has been carrying the offense for 20+ games I want him traded now?'

My guess what I will actually find is convenient silence on the subject during that time but when Semin went cold later plenty of complaints from you.

My point isn't that people don't have valid reasons to dislike players, acquisitions, or whatever, it is that they disappear on the subject only to return with a gusto and then vanish again all dependent on the current circumstances.
The original trade Mike Green thread is my favorite example of this.
 

CapitalsCupReality

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Fixed that for you...

Ok let me get on record now: I really think the Caps should listen to trade offers for anyone and everyone. I wouldn't be against holding on to most/all of them but if the right offer comes along I wouldn't be against moving them.

How's that, am I covered going forward now...?

Aww....it must really hurt that I had proof huh? Sometimes I feel bad that you're always debating from a weak position....sometimes. ;)

You asked, I provided two of probably a hundred posts about me supporting a Semin trade, you start stammering and backpedaling. Quite amusing.

Some simple advice for you:

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Ajax1995

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Aww....it must really hurt that I had proof huh? Sometimes I feel bad that you're always debating from a weak position....sometimes. ;)

You asked, I provided two of probably a hundred posts about me supporting a Semin trade, you start stammering and backpedaling. Quite amusing.

Proof that you would be both ok trading Semin and not trading Semin. Wow way to take a hard stance...

I vaguely remember Strung calling for getting rid of Semin regardless, maybe on a different board but whatever. That is not what you were doing and you know it.

I'll say it again, there isn't a guy in the league I wouldn't at least listen to offers for or be willing to deal away at the right price. For you to claim you feeling that way about Semin was calling for trading him is ridiculous.
 

Liberati0n*

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"I'm fine with keeping him on the team" -- proof CCF unequivocally called for a trade.

I guess what's going on is that part of the post wasn't actually genuine in the first place, but said so he would look like less of a blatant hater and have more credibility, so when he looks at it now he basically reads the post without it. I think Millhaus is essentially wrong about this, but CCF citing a post that proves him wrong as proof that he was right is pretty funny anyway.
 

CapitalsCupReality

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I love how you're clinging to the wording of one post. There are many others. Knock yourself out and go do the research or simply move along quietly.
 

Raikkonen

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I do believe Ribs was OK in the playoffs. Not the problem. I've checked some stats and he wasn't at fault in ES. Unlike what some guys said.

I still think Ribeiro is the better alternative at 2C than Laich or Perreault.

If McPhee can add another center at draft (say, Vermette) I can live with out Ribeiro obviously. But I do not want to see Ribeiro walking and McPhee telling us "we will try our own guys (MP/MJ/BL) and wait for another C in Kuznetsov". That will be cruel.
 

Raikkonen

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On the other hand, Ribs isn't the long term cost-effective 2C solution probably.

To see if we have one in MJ/MP McPhee should give them a chance at 2C. Again.

That will probably give us enough resources for 2LD.
 

Hivemind

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I do believe Ribs was OK in the playoffs. Not the problem. I've checked some stats and he wasn't at fault in ES. Unlike what some guys said.

I still think Ribeiro is the better alternative at 2C than Laich or Perreault.

If McPhee can add another center at draft (say, Vermette) I can live with out Ribeiro obviously. But I do not want to see Ribeiro walking and McPhee telling us "we will try our own guys (MP/MJ/BL) and wait for another C in Kuznetsov". That will be cruel.

I don't see Vermette as a significantly better option than Johansson, Laich, or Perreault as a scoring line center. Not sure why a handful of posters have such serious interest in him. He had one really good season in Columbus while playing huge minutes (with Rick Nash, no less). He hasn't hit 50 points since then and hasn't ever taken that "next step" that fans in Ottawa and Columbus were hoping he'd take. At 30, we've likely seen what we're going to get from Vermette. An okay 2C for a middling team or a very good 3C for a competitor.

If McPhee actually did trade Laich, I wouldn't mind bringing in Vermette as the new 3C (assuming it works cap wise).
 

Raikkonen

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I don't see Vermette as a significantly better option than Johansson, Laich, or Perreault as a scoring line center.

If McPhee actually did trade Laich, I wouldn't mind bringing in Vermette as the new 3C (assuming it works cap wise).

1st, Vermette is an example, because he is kinda available, maybe.

2nd, less term and less salary. Which is better for us.

3rd. Mature player. Center (unlike MJ and BL). Defensive and PK specialist as far as I know. Good on the dot.

He is not a direct subst for Ribs. But he could be successful in some top-9 role. We have enough wingers for him.

Anyway, just an example. I would prefer Vermette, not Sam Gagner :)))
 

Ajax1995

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I love how you're clinging to the wording of one post. There are many others. Knock yourself out and go do the research or simply move along quietly.

You are the one who chose to use that post as your evidence. I didn't dig it out from 3+ years ago, you did.

If there were so many other posts you could have used that didn't so clearly show you sitting on the fence maybe you should have cited one of those instead...?
 

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I don't see Vermette as a significantly better option than Johansson, Laich, or Perreault as a scoring line center. Not sure why a handful of posters have such serious interest in him. He had one really good season in Columbus while playing huge minutes (with Rick Nash, no less). He hasn't hit 50 points since then and hasn't ever taken that "next step" that fans in Ottawa and Columbus were hoping he'd take. At 30, we've likely seen what we're going to get from Vermette. An okay 2C for a middling team or a very good 3C for a competitor.

If McPhee actually did trade Laich, I wouldn't mind bringing in Vermette as the new 3C (assuming it works cap wise).

Because none of Johansson, Laich or Perreault are an "okay 2C".

Vermette is the best defensive player of that group, by far the best on draws, as fast as Johansson and doesn't play scared. He can also hang with high end players without anchoring them like Laich does. He brings a ton more at ES and away from the puck than Ribeiro, and given his speed, faceoff ability, play away from the puck and the fact that he has top 6~ish offensive skills and vision he could be a very effective center for Ovechkin in a similar way that Zubrus was. While also being a premier shutdown 3C option should they need him there. This is actual versatility, not pretend Brooks Laich can play as a defenseman versatility.
 

maroon 6

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I don't watch the Caps much, but looking at his stats I would think they would want to re-sign him. Was he a big part of Ovie's bounce back season or Ovie's bounce back season led to his good stats, or neither haha? Anyways, is he asking for too much or is it something else, because his wife is sure making it sound like he wants to stay?
 

Brian23

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I don't watch the Caps much, but looking at his stats I would think they would want to re-sign him. Was he a big part of Ovie's bounce back season or Ovie's bounce back season led to his good stats, or neither haha? Anyways, is he asking for too much or is it something else, because his wife is sure making it sound like he wants to stay?

Ovi didn't blow up till after being moved from Ribs line.

To his credit, he carried the team early in the year but he did so with an absurd shooting percentage and an absurd power play. Everything that drove his success last year indicates a large drop off in play in the following years. To put it simply, he's not worth what he's asking for. If he'd take a 3 or 4 year deal at slightly less money, then we'd definitely bring him back, but no one would be smart in giving him a 5 year deal at like 5.5.
 

hockeygeek

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I feel for these girls. It's gotta be really tough being a professional athletes wife. Life just isn't fair sometimes
 

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