Michel Therrien - Is he fired yet? **MOD WARNING: FIRST POST, READ BEFORE POSTING**
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Bergevin said many times "I'm staying path". He inherited of a good core when he became GM, how can you blame him for that. Petry is the only impact player he added, Bergevin already had a good core and many of them became impact player (Gallagher) or in some case became elite (Price, Subban, Pacio) So Bergevin already have lots of impact players on his team and it's still a young team, what he's doing right now is staying path, he will let his other draft picks develop (Galch, Beaulieu, Andrighetto, McCarron...)
Some of the moves he made so far are salary related, other moves are to exchange players that didn't work in their respective team anymore (Diaz/Weise or Sekac/DSP), other moves was to add speed to the team (to fit with the team game plan) and improve our bottom 6 with Mitchell, Flynn, Byron, which is a good improvement.
For the last 3 seasons, he acquired some rentals to help his team make a good playoff run, the 2 biggest one were Vanek and Petry. In that regard, he's doing like every other teams that are in good position in the standings, he added rental players at the deadline.
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More then the comments from Therrien and Bergevin, I hate you guys. I hate all the fans that actually make a big deal of how much of a big deal the media is making of how much of a big deal the organization is making of how much of a big deal the incident was for the players involved.
You guys are all ****ing microscopes that when you add all the lenses, it makes the heat unbearable for the players.
Jesus, Chucky is an adult, he'll deal with what his GM and his coach (read: employers) really think about the situation. Whatever they tell the media, he gives 2 ****s about. Get over it, you guys are making such a ****ing big deal about it then it really is.
You guys are all ****ing microscopes that when you add all the lenses, it makes the heat unbearable for the players.
Jesus, Chucky is an adult, he'll deal with what his GM and his coach (read: employers) really think about the situation. Whatever they tell the media, he gives 2 ****s about. Get over it, you guys are making such a ****ing big deal about it then it really is.
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I disagree, I think Therrien handled it quite well. Whatever the extent the onus on Galchenyuk was in the situation, it's obvious that the organization would rather it have never happened and it's understandable that they would attribute some blame to Alex himself.
The alternatives would be to ignore it altogether, or to throw him under the bus. The full comments by Therrien are encouraging as it suggests he is willing to work with Alex further.
No kidding, not to mention it's clear they're trying to protect him. "No comment" sounds a lot worse than just saying "**** happens when you're young".
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The DD vs Galch is pretty tired. Those railing on either need to know they don't get a big say in who they play with or how much ice time .... that's on MT.
Pretend for a second that you're Galchenyuk. 3rd overall pick, offensive skills, playing on a team that desperately needs offence, not just this year, but every year. But inexplicably you almost never get a chance, for small spurts yes, but never sustained even though by most measuring sticks you do a decent job.
Other teams don't seem to have a problem putting their young centres in harms way and letting them learn, why does MT feel it necessary to do it here. His development is further off because MT had to "shelter him". I'd agree, maybe, if we had anyone above him on the depth chart able to play in the #1 or #2 slot. Eller was supposed to get there, but was never given a real shot... do we really want this playing out with Galchenyuk too. With Pleks as #3 we're a cup contender with him as #1 we're a marginal playoff team.
That's the issue, are we better today because Galchenyuk was sheltered ... absolutely not. It's his 4th year, had he been allowed to grow in the role, and not look over his shoulder we'd be looking at a true # right now. He's done EVERYTHING the team asked and shown maturity ahead of his years.... his reward ... don't **** up or you'll be a winger.
There is no reasonable debate to be had in DD vs Galch.
DD was a stop gap measure, that has been used out of his depth ... he's #3 at best and produces more when given limited ice time against weaker lines. To the gentleman who used +/- to compare them ... you do understand much of DD's plus is from when his line got sheltered minutes and was destroying the weaker matchup.
Galch is one of the few players I see moving North/South with any real sense of purpose. He never really got a shot to work with Semin. Imagine where he'd be if MB had the ballz to pull the trigger and get Jagr ... I'm willing to bet MT Vetoed it because of his perceived slowness and defensive shortcomings. Barkov is extremely comparable to Galch ... who's got the brighter future now.
Pretend for a second that you're Galchenyuk. 3rd overall pick, offensive skills, playing on a team that desperately needs offence, not just this year, but every year. But inexplicably you almost never get a chance, for small spurts yes, but never sustained even though by most measuring sticks you do a decent job.
Other teams don't seem to have a problem putting their young centres in harms way and letting them learn, why does MT feel it necessary to do it here. His development is further off because MT had to "shelter him". I'd agree, maybe, if we had anyone above him on the depth chart able to play in the #1 or #2 slot. Eller was supposed to get there, but was never given a real shot... do we really want this playing out with Galchenyuk too. With Pleks as #3 we're a cup contender with him as #1 we're a marginal playoff team.
That's the issue, are we better today because Galchenyuk was sheltered ... absolutely not. It's his 4th year, had he been allowed to grow in the role, and not look over his shoulder we'd be looking at a true # right now. He's done EVERYTHING the team asked and shown maturity ahead of his years.... his reward ... don't **** up or you'll be a winger.
There is no reasonable debate to be had in DD vs Galch.
DD was a stop gap measure, that has been used out of his depth ... he's #3 at best and produces more when given limited ice time against weaker lines. To the gentleman who used +/- to compare them ... you do understand much of DD's plus is from when his line got sheltered minutes and was destroying the weaker matchup.
Galch is one of the few players I see moving North/South with any real sense of purpose. He never really got a shot to work with Semin. Imagine where he'd be if MB had the ballz to pull the trigger and get Jagr ... I'm willing to bet MT Vetoed it because of his perceived slowness and defensive shortcomings. Barkov is extremely comparable to Galch ... who's got the brighter future now.
Not to mention going full secrecy makes it sound like there's more to the story. Addressing it head on and saying it's no big deal is a lot better than the alternative.
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Or there is nothing more to the story, and Therrien knew exactly what he was doing.
You see this is the type of comment that bothers me. You are unsatisfied with Therrien's public (PR!) statement, which in my opinion is very neutral but anyone is free to think otherwise, so you call him a moron.
But then you allow yourself to speculate "there's more to the story than we thought", which ultimately puts even more fuel to the "scandal" surrounding Galchenyuk's personal life, then anything Therrien said himself.
So who is the guilty one here?
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Give him 100 percent offensive zone faceoffs if you want to... but we haven't given him proper linemates. It's been a guy out of position and a bunch of NHL auditioning players who never stay the same. The best has been Carr but they're not giving Carr much in the way of minutes either.
Give him defensive zone faceoffs with Max and Gallagher and he'll actually be better off.
No it's not. You say no comment and move on.
MT just threw his player under the bus and it shouldn't have happened.
The problem with MT's statement is that it feeds into the idea that there's more to the story than we thought. That's why you should say... no comment. Put the flames out don't put grease on them.
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didimentionlarseller
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agree to disagree - i think it makes it a bigger story to have more people comment on it
the teams saying nothing would have been appropriate imho
didimentionlarseller
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He's ridiculously sheltered for our 3rd most used center.
I agree he can use better wingers though.
Oh yes, the best way to calm the media is by saying "no comment" which makes it look worse.
People are way too sensitive. There's zero throwing under the bus here. Saying "He'll learn" is really not a big deal unless you're forcing it or hate MT.
Well to be fair it's hard for us to grasp as our p'tit prince is far from fresh.
Oh, please. No one is putting any "fuel" on anything. This is a message board, it's not real life. People come here to speculate, ******** about hockey, vent, etc.
IMO, Therrien saying "he'll learn" means Galchenyuk did something wrong. So, either we don't know the full story OR Therrien misspoke.
He'll learn how to handle his personal life better.
There's a fine line between things going in the news and not for celebrities.
Handleh is personal life better? What was he supposed to do differently in this situation?
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