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Given the choice would you rather build your team around Matthews, or Draisaitl?
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You’re voting Matthews because he scored four goals in his first NHL game, four years ago. This is the most irrelevant reason to vote for Matthews.Matthews because from his first NHL game he proved he can lead a team.
Even though Draisaitl has become a great player today, a lot of his production was because of Connor McDavid helping him early on in his careerr.
I dont think thats true, but I agree he shouldve wrote "Leafs fan saying Matthews, etc"Pretty pointless thread. Every Leafs fan will vote Matthews and everybody else will vote Draisaitl.
I am not a leafs fan and hate the leafs hype as much as the next guy, but I am still voting Matthew without much difficultyPretty pointless thread. Every Leafs fan will vote Matthews and everybody else will vote Draisaitl.
I pick Matthews pretty clearly.
Draisaitl's offense has absolutely EXPLODED the last two years, and I think its easy to say that he is offensively better than Matthews at the moment. However Matthews is the better goal scorer, especially at even strength, which shrinks the gap slightly.
For me though, the big difference is defense. Draisaitl is awful defensively, and by a number of advanced metrics was actually among the worst forwards in his own zone last season. Matthews on the other hand went from being an average defender before to having a great defensive season last year (but no, he was not a selke center last season despite what some say).
Matthews is also younger.
The only thing that makes me second guess is contracts, but IMO I would still rather build around Matthews at 11.5 over Drai at 8.5
I dont think thats true, but I agree he shouldve wrote "Leafs fan saying Matthews, etc"
maybe redo it @Northern Avs Fan with 4 options for a more clear result
I think being paired with McDavid on a team that needed them to gun for offense and overplayed them because of it, caused them both to be too lax on defense when paired together the past couple seasons, and Draisaitl in particular had an awful December defensively. When he was paired with RNH and Yamamoto in the new year though, that ended up being the best line in hockey and Draisaitl's defensive numbers were good, while maintaining his offense. It's concerning that a guy you're taking for your franchise player would take a month off and his defensive results certainly undercut his production to make this a lot closer than some people think, but I think Draisaitl certainly has the ability to play above average defense, it's just a question of whether he will.
So if Draisaitl decided to become as good as Matthews defensively his points would have dropped from 110 to 100 points. Matthews had 80 points. That's still 20 points separation.He has yet to do so, so I see no reason for me to assume he will going forward. The safe assumption is that he will continue to be what he has been the last two years. A top 5-ish player on offense, and below average or worse on defense.
And if you need to sacrifice your defense to score more points, then that means your offense is not as good as advertised.
Matthews outscored Draisaitl with 47 goals this past season.So if Draisaitl decided to become as good as Matthews defensively his points would have dropped from 110 to 100 points. Matthews had 80 points. That's still 20 points separation.
Actually true lol. Some Toronto guy in a recent poll posted in the thread he voted for Edmonton and then voted Toronto in the poll.I don’t think that’s necessary. Homer voters still stealth vote in the wrong section when that happens lol
Wow Matthews scored 4 more goals. That doesn't change the fact that Draisaitl scored 30 more points than himMatthews outscored Draisaitl with 47 goals this past season.