Martin Brodeur....Overrated?

[daveskirtun]

Is there any realistic way to record blocked shots w/ Brodeur vs. his backups?

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Is there any realistic way to record blocked shots w/ Brodeur vs. his backups?

Well, "luckily" Brodeur's backups never played that many games. Only about 10 games per season to manually count blocked shots (as far back as RTSS stats or whatever allow) and remove them from the total... if one could be so arsed.

 

[daveskirtun]

Well, "luckily" Brodeur's backups never played that many games. Only about 10 games per season to manually count blocked shots (as far back as RTSS stats or whatever allow) and remove them from the total... if one could be so arsed.

I was only curious because I've heard many times that Brodeur actively opposed his teammates blocking shots (I use the past tense since Anton Volchenkov was signed), and wondered if it showed up significantly on the stat sheet or not.

 

[seventieslord]

I was only curious because I've heard many times that Brodeur actively opposed his teammates blocking shots (I use the past tense since Anton Volchenkov was signed), and wondered if it showed up significantly on the stat sheet or not.

Hasek hated his teammates blocking shots and I've heard it used as criticism before, that it unfairly boosted his sv% having these "easy" shots added to his totals.

But if those shots are "easy", then they are probably not worth the effort it takes to block them... and I wouldn't say that is true.

anyway, point is, I'd really like to see a breakdown for Hasek in his prime versus his backups in shots blocked, but sadly, those stats don't exist. Best thing we have is the shots against per game differential, and last I checked I think the conclusion was that Hasek "created" about a SOG per game more than his backups, and the assumption was that his terrible puckhandling was to blame.

 

[Brooklanders*]

Everyone knows that he will break Sawchuk's shutout record.

I think hes good; I don't think he's the "best ever" though.

I'm wondering if he had the same success if this was the "defense be damned" 80s.

He wouldn't get all those shutouts i'll bet...

And another thing, I got Dupris Sawchuk book and in the back of the book show every game Sawchuk had a shutout.

I would like to do is to find the shots on goal for each game Sawchuk had a shutout.

I know the newspapers from the early 50s' did not carry that stat on shots on goal.

New York Times started to carry shots on goal stat probably late 50s? early 60s?

I dont believe Brodeur is overrated, I believe he is rated by the fans about right. He is a HOF goaliee and that is a difficult feat. He was not better than Roy or Hasek but its hard to find another modern day goalie as good as he after those guys.

 

[daveskirtun]

Hasek hated his teammates blocking shots and I've heard it used as criticism before, that it unfairly boosted his sv% having these "easy" shots added to his totals.

But if those shots are "easy", then they are probably not worth the effort it takes to block them... and I wouldn't say that is true.

anyway, point is, I'd really like to see a breakdown for Hasek in his prime versus his backups in shots blocked, but sadly, those stats don't exist. Best thing we have is the shots against per game differential, and last I checked I think the conclusion was that Hasek "created" about a SOG per game more than his backups, and the assumption was that his terrible puckhandling was to blame.

I was just interested to see if there was a significant difference or not, not grasping at straws to prove Brodeur is the best ever.

It's really pointless to argue, the majority of people have their pick for 'GOAT' and cannot be swayed by numbers, figures and logic, including myself.

And for the record, I think a case can be made for several of the top guys, and no one is wrong.

 

[BM67]

The Devils have been known for giving up fewer shots and taking fewer penalties than almost every team year in and year out for all of Brodeur's career. It's not as well known that they have also been at or near the bottom in number of faceoffs per game since the stat has been kept.

The question is one of how much credit is due Brodeur for any of these factors to the "Devils System".

A look the Devils stats, taking the games where Brodeur played the whole game and comparing them to the games where he either didn't play or only played part of the game, and comparing the SOGF, SOGA, face-offs and PIM per game.

2011-12

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|55|26.95|26.36|52.89|11.60|B Home|33|27.70|25.61|53.18|11.45|B Road|22|25.82|27.50|52.45|11.82
Other|27|28.56|27.74|57.11|11.33|O Home|8|27.50|28.62|56.50|10.88|O Road|19|29.00|27.37|57.37|11.53

2010-11

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|47|29.38|25.32|50.13|9.04|B Home|23|30.00|23.70|50.26|8.04|B Road|24|28.79|26.88|50.00|10.00
Other|35|27.51|28.40|54.71|9.69|O Home|18|26.83|29.39|53.50|7.11|O Road|17|28.24|27.35|56.00|12.41

2009-10

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|70|29.84|27.00|51.71|10.47|B Home|39|28.54|25.33|50.97|10.33|B Road|31|31.48|29.10|52.65|10.65
Other|12|30.83|26.92|52.00|10.50|O Home|2|33.00|19.00|49.00|13.00|O Road|10|30.40|28.50|52.60|10.00

2008-09

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|28|35.14|29.68|55.03|14.75|B Home|14|34.00|29.57|55.71|13.64|B Road|14|36.29|29.79|54.36|15.86
Other|54|31.74|29.33|56.59|11.94|O Home|27|31.41|27.33|57.26|13.56|O Road|27|32.07|31.33|55.93|10.33

2007-08

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|73|29.04|27.44|52.03|11.78|B Home|39|29.10|26.46|52.00|11.41|B Road|34|28.97|28.56|52.06|12.21
Other|9|26.89|28.22|54.22|12.67|O Home|2|27.50|23.00|51.00|17.50|O Road|7|26.71|29.71|55.14|11.29

2006-07

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|76|28.74|28.28|52.50|9.45|B Home|38|27.79|26.00|53.16|9.82|B Road|38|29.68|30.55|51.84|9.08
Other|6|28.33|30.50|60.00|18.67|O Home|3|25.67|25.00|59.00|17.00|O Road|3|31.00|36.00|61.00|20.33

2005-06

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|69|29.29|29.12|57.01|11.45|B Home|33|28.79|27.15|56.79|9.91|B Road|36|29.75|30.92|57.33|12.86
Other|13|29.15|29.92|57.15|10.92|O Home|8|25.75|28.25|54.38|11.75|O Road|5|34.60|32.60|61.60|9.6

The years from before the lockout.

2003-04

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|75|29.56|24.63|59.77|10.59|B Home|38|28.55|22.61|60.21|11.16|B Road|37|30.59|26.70|59.32|10.00
Other|7|31.14|21.71|62.57|14.57|O Home|3|31.67|20.67|65.33|13.00|O Road|4|30.75|22.50|60.50|15.75

2002-03

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|71|31.85|23.68|60.65|12.10|B Home|36|31.42|22.31|60.28|10.97|B Road|35|32.29|25.09|61.03|13.26
Other|11|30.73|23.09|63.27|8.45|O Home|5|34.00|20.20|62.80|12.20|O Road|6|28.00|25.50|63.67|5.33

2001-02

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|69|29.58|23.16|63.16|12.70|B Home|36|28.08|21.56|61.64|11.19|B Road|33|31.21|24.91|64.82|14.33
Other|13|31.08|23.23|61.38|10.31|O Home|5|24.00|23.20|56.80|8.40|O Road|8|35.50|23.25|64.25|11.50

As you can see faceoffs per game are much higher than post-lockout.

Running totals: More SOGF in 6/10 seasons, fewer SOGA in 6/10, fewer faceoffs in 9/10, and fewer PIM in 5/10.


Total

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|633|29.67|26.30|55.76|11.23|B Home|329|29.06|24.76|55.56|10.71|B Road|304|30.33|27.97|55.99|11.78
Other|187|29.78|27.72|57.01|11.30|O Home|81|28.89|26.67|56.38|11.47|O Road|106|30.46|28.53|57.48|11.17

 

[Elvis P]

... It's really pointless to argue, the majority of people have their pick for 'GOAT' and cannot be swayed by numbers, figures and logic, including myself. ...

This is so true and I appreciate your honesty. Recently I posted that a goalie whose career overlapped Roy's and had better regular season GAA and SV% in over 600 games was a good regular season goalie. I never said he was as good as Roy, that he was a good playoff goalie, or anything crazy like that. Several posters immediately slammed him. Numbers and stats have zero influence in debates here. Guys have their opinions and will never change them regardless of the numbers, stats and logic. I consider Brodeur the 7th best NHL goalie ever.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

This is so true and I appreciate your honesty. Recently I posted that a goalie whose career overlapped Roy's and had better regular season GAA and SV% in over 600 games was a good regular season goalie. I never said he was as good as Roy, that he was a good playoff goalie, or anything crazy like that. Several posters immediately slammed him. Numbers and stats have zero influence in debates here. Guys have their opinions and will never change them regardless of the numbers, stats and logic. I consider Brodeur the 7th best NHL goalie ever.

Most posters here are very aware of the numbers. But stats are not the whole story.

Posters have different criteria for greatness. Value of peak, length of peak, prime, career, consistence of career, all factors that are weighted differently by individuals.

By rating Brodeur 7th best ever in essence you are saying he is indeed overrated by the majority of hockey fans and even people in the game. However, on the history site your assessment is much more reasonable.

 

[BubbaBoot]

If Brodeur is overrated, so then are 99.9% of the all other GK's who've ever played the game at this level.

I don't care what anybody says, you cannot play this many games, be this effective, set as many records, for as long as he has, in the elite hockey league on this planet by being overrated.

It's an absurd statement.

 

[Hardyvan123]

If Brodeur is overrated, so then are 99.9% of the all other GK's who've ever played the game at this level.

I don't care what anybody says, you cannot play this many games, be this effective, set as many records, for as long as he has, in the elite hockey league on this planet by being overrated.

It's an absurd statement.

I would tend to agree but still it's really hard to separate teams from goalies in any assessment used.

The upcoming best goalies of all time project is going to be very interesting but I would be very surprised if Broduer was not in the top 3 or 4 goalies with Roy and Hasek as well.

 

[Elvis P]

... The upcoming best goalies of all time project is going to be very interesting but I would be very surprised if Broduer was not in the top 3 or 4 goalies with Roy and Hasek as well.

Hasek, Sawchuk, Roy, Plante, Hall, Dryden. I'd be very surprised if he was top 4.

 

[haakon84]

I don't think he is overrated by the people on the history board. Most sensible hockey fans rate him where he should be— at the upper echelon of goaltending greats where you can make a case for each goaltender to move up or down one spot.

I will say his puckhandling skills and hockey sense are underrated by the statisticians and people who have not watched him play his whole career, especially pre-trapezoid. Many teams had to and still have to adjust their dump in strategy and penalty kill in order to prevent him from playing the puck. These skills, along with his puck-stopping ability, were absolutely instrumental for the success of the Devils. Great work BM67.

 

[DickSmehlik]

Does his recent performance in the post season put a dent in his armor? If New Jersey fails to make it out of the first round again this season it will be how many consecutive series Brodeur’s lost?

There was a time when Brodeur and long postseason runs were synonymous. In the almost decade since their last Cup win it seems like New Jersey and Marty haven't made a lot of noise.

 

[seventieslord]

Does his recent performance in the post season put a dent in his armor? If New Jersey fails to make it out of the first round again this season it will be how many consecutive series Brodeur’s lost?

There was a time when Brodeur and long postseason runs were synonymous. In the almost decade since their last Cup win it seems like New Jersey and Marty haven't made a lot of noise.

yes and no. He had just turned 31 when he won his last cup. So his playoff legacy was mostly cemented regardless. As he got older it became easier to say "well, he's on the downslope of his career" and that was true, at least in the last few years... but what about age 32, 33, 34? if we're talking about an all-time great the expectation should be there to do something great in the playoffs at that age, but he didn't deliver. But like I said, his playoff legacy was already cemented, so....

 

[BenchBrawl]

yes and no. He had just turned 31 when he won his last cup. So his playoff legacy was mostly cemented regardless. As he got older it became easier to say "well, he's on the downslope of his career" and that was true, at least in the last few years... but what about age 32, 33, 34? if we're talking about an all-time great the expectation should be there to do something great in the playoffs at that age, but he didn't deliver. But like I said, his playoff legacy was already cemented, so....

Cementing a positive playoff legacy is one thing , but beating the others' legacies is another.Not winning the Smythe in 3 cups being a goalie is hard to defend if you want to make a case for Brodeur against the very top goalies.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Does his recent performance in the post season put a dent in his armor? If New Jersey fails to make it out of the first round again this season it will be how many consecutive series Brodeur’s lost?

There was a time when Brodeur and long postseason runs were synonymous. In the almost decade since their last Cup win it seems like New Jersey and Marty haven't made a lot of noise.

While NJ has been quite the choking team since the lockout, Bordeur himself has only been pulled from a playoff game twice. IMO recent postseasons don't add or take away from his legacy - he still has significantly more playoff success than Glenn Hall

 

[GuineaPig]

Brodeur has more or less played just as well in the playoffs pre- and post-lockout.

The strength of the team in front of him is the major difference. Hell, even in this current series where the Devils should be handling the Panthers easily, Brodeur is playing well and his team is failing him.

 

[Rhiessan71]

While NJ has been quite the choking team since the lockout, Bordeur himself has only been pulled from a playoff game twice. IMO recent postseasons don't add or take away from his legacy - he still has significantly more playoff success than Glenn Hall

I have to agree. Marty has had a more than solid playoff resume.

What are we really talking about here? Not making up ground on the playoff king, Patrick Roy?
That ship sailed a long time ago and while no goalie is remotely in the same class as Roy for career playoff performance. Brodeur is closer to him than most.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Brodeur has more or less played just as well in the playoffs pre- and post-lockout.

The strength of the team in front of him is the major difference. Hell, even in this current series where the Devils should be handling the Panthers easily, Brodeur is playing well and his team is failing him.

IMO, Brodeur hasnt been quite the same since the injury that gave Clemmenson his shot.

He let one soft goal in during each of the game 3 and 5 losses against Florida, but has generally played well. He was outstanding in game 4 and was the only thing keeping his crap team in game 5 until his brain cramped on the slow dump in.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

yes and no. He had just turned 31 when he won his last cup. So his playoff legacy was mostly cemented regardless. As he got older it became easier to say "well, he's on the downslope of his career" and that was true, at least in the last few years... but what about age 32, 33, 34? if we're talking about an all-time great the expectation should be there to do something great in the playoffs at that age, but he didn't deliver. But like I said, his playoff legacy was already cemented, so....

interesting.

one thing i'd ask about brodeur is did he play more games before the age of 30 than any other goalie of all time? he was a starter by 21 and was a consistent workhorse from 23 on. he also had played 24 playoff rounds by 30. he would win all three of his vezinas post-30, and i think even if you only look at his career from '04 to the present he's an almost undeniable hall of famer, but i also wonder if we can excuse his non-legendary playoff record in his 30s to the i suspect unprecedented miles he put on his body before then.

personally, i have brodeur at 5a, with hall the 5b. it's so hard for me to pick between them, even given marty's playoff record, because hall put unprecedented miles on his body in his 20s too, and he managed to win a conn smythe at 36.

 

[GuineaPig]

IMO, Brodeur hasnt been quite the same since the injury that gave Clemmenson his shot.

He let one soft goal in during each of the game 3 and 5 losses against Florida, but has generally played well. He was outstanding in game 4 and was the only thing keeping his crap team in game 5 until his brain cramped on the slow dump in.

I think on the whole, he's been declining due to old age. But he played well in '09 and has played well so far this year. There have been a few weak goals, but there always is. I've seen stretches of three of the games (1, 3, and 4) and he's playing better than I expected him to.

 

[BM67]

Brodeur and the Devils have only lost to one team that has lost in the next round since their last Cup win in 2003. One could have hoped for more from Brodeur and the team, but it's not like they've been losing to teams that had no business winning, as all but the Rangers went on to win the next series. Carolina won the Cup. Philly and Ottawa went to the Finals.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

While NJ has been quite the choking team since the lockout, Bordeur himself has only been pulled from a playoff game twice. IMO recent postseasons don't add or take away from his legacy - he still has significantly more playoff success than Glenn Hall

It should be noted that Hall played at a time when the regular season champion was viewed as virtually on a par with the Cup winner.

 

[BM67]

The Devils have been known for giving up fewer shots and taking fewer penalties than almost every team year in and year out for all of Brodeur's career. It's not as well known that they have also been at or near the bottom in number of faceoffs per game since the stat has been kept.

The question is one of how much credit is due Brodeur for any of these factors to the "Devils System".

A look the Devils stats, taking the games where Brodeur played the whole game and comparing them to the games where he either didn't play or only played part of the game, and comparing the SOGF, SOGA, face-offs and PIM per game.

2011-12

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|55|26.95|26.36|52.89|11.60|B Home|33|27.70|25.61|53.18|11.45|B Road|22|25.82|27.50|52.45|11.82
Other|27|28.56|27.74|57.11|11.33|O Home|8|27.50|28.62|56.50|10.88|O Road|19|29.00|27.37|57.37|11.53

2010-11

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|47|29.38|25.32|50.13|9.04|B Home|23|30.00|23.70|50.26|8.04|B Road|24|28.79|26.88|50.00|10.00
Other|35|27.51|28.40|54.71|9.69|O Home|18|26.83|29.39|53.50|7.11|O Road|17|28.24|27.35|56.00|12.41

2009-10

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|70|29.84|27.00|51.71|10.47|B Home|39|28.54|25.33|50.97|10.33|B Road|31|31.48|29.10|52.65|10.65
Other|12|30.83|26.92|52.00|10.50|O Home|2|33.00|19.00|49.00|13.00|O Road|10|30.40|28.50|52.60|10.00

2008-09

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|28|35.14|29.68|55.03|14.75|B Home|14|34.00|29.57|55.71|13.64|B Road|14|36.29|29.79|54.36|15.86
Other|54|31.74|29.33|56.59|11.94|O Home|27|31.41|27.33|57.26|13.56|O Road|27|32.07|31.33|55.93|10.33

2007-08

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|73|29.04|27.44|52.03|11.78|B Home|39|29.10|26.46|52.00|11.41|B Road|34|28.97|28.56|52.06|12.21
Other|9|26.89|28.22|54.22|12.67|O Home|2|27.50|23.00|51.00|17.50|O Road|7|26.71|29.71|55.14|11.29

2006-07

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|76|28.74|28.28|52.50|9.45|B Home|38|27.79|26.00|53.16|9.82|B Road|38|29.68|30.55|51.84|9.08
Other|6|28.33|30.50|60.00|18.67|O Home|3|25.67|25.00|59.00|17.00|O Road|3|31.00|36.00|61.00|20.33

2005-06

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|69|29.29|29.12|57.01|11.45|B Home|33|28.79|27.15|56.79|9.91|B Road|36|29.75|30.92|57.33|12.86
Other|13|29.15|29.92|57.15|10.92|O Home|8|25.75|28.25|54.38|11.75|O Road|5|34.60|32.60|61.60|9.6

The years from before the lockout.

2003-04

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|75|29.56|24.63|59.77|10.59|B Home|38|28.55|22.61|60.21|11.16|B Road|37|30.59|26.70|59.32|10.00
Other|7|31.14|21.71|62.57|14.57|O Home|3|31.67|20.67|65.33|13.00|O Road|4|30.75|22.50|60.50|15.75

2002-03

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|71|31.85|23.68|60.65|12.10|B Home|36|31.42|22.31|60.28|10.97|B Road|35|32.29|25.09|61.03|13.26
Other|11|30.73|23.09|63.27|8.45|O Home|5|34.00|20.20|62.80|12.20|O Road|6|28.00|25.50|63.67|5.33

2001-02

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|69|29.58|23.16|63.16|12.70|B Home|36|28.08|21.56|61.64|11.19|B Road|33|31.21|24.91|64.82|14.33
Other|13|31.08|23.23|61.38|10.31|O Home|5|24.00|23.20|56.80|8.40|O Road|8|35.50|23.25|64.25|11.50

2000-01

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|67|31.67|25.27|64.37|16.36|B Home|32|32.09|23.94|65.75|14.97|B Road|35|31.29|26.49|63.11|17.63
Other|15|31.20|22.07|62.00|9.27|O Home|9|29.00|21.11|59.78|7.67|O Road|6|34.50|23.50|65.33|11.67

1999-00

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|70|33.40|25.19|62.94|16.54|B Home|34|33.88|23.41|62.62|17.41|B Road|36|32.94|26.86|63.25|15.72
Other|12|31.58|28.17|65.75|12.92|O Home|7|30.43|29.57|68.29|14.57|O Road|5|33.20|26.20|62.20|10.60

1998-99

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|70|31.10|24.74|62.77|17.51|B Home|33|31.67|23.00|60.61|16.09|B Road|37|30.59|26.30|64.70|18.78
Other|12|32.33|24.50|59.92|11.08|O Home|8|33.00|23.50|58.50|12.25|O Road|4|31.00|26.50|62.75|8.75

As you can see faceoffs per game are much higher than post-lockout.

Running totals: More SOGF in 8/13 seasons, fewer SOGA in 7/13, fewer faceoffs in 10/13, and fewer PIM in 5/13.

Total

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|840|30.26|26.00|57.63|12.60|B Home|428|29.87|24.46|57.27|11.98|B Road|412|30.66|27.59|58.01|13.25
Other|226|30.11|27.20|57.96|11.24|O Home|105|29.31|26.14|57.63|11.41|O Road|121|30.79|28.12|58.24|11.09

Post Lockout

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|418|29.33|27.56|53.00|10.95|B Home|219|28.92|26.06|52.97|10.51|B Road|199|29.78|29.22|53.02|11.43
Other|156|29.54|28.69|55.95|11.44|O Home|68|28.75|27.66|55.49|11.57|O Road|88|30.16|29.49|56.31|11.33

Before Lockout

Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM|Goalie|GP|SOGF|SOGA|FO|PIM
Brodeur|422|31.18|24.44|62.23|14.24|B Home|209|30.87|22.77|61.77|13.51|B Road|213|31.48|26.08|62.68|14.95
Other|70|31.36|23.87|62.43|10.80|O Home|37|30.35|23.35|61.57|11.11|O Road|33|32.48|24.45|63.39|10.45

Here are the Devils home/road GF and GA and SOG over the last 13 seasons.

Year|H GF|H GA|H SF|H SA|R GF|R GA|R SF|R SA
1998-99|123|102|1309|947|125|94|1256|1079
1999-00|133|92|1365|1003|118|111|1352|1098
2000-01|145|92|1288|956|150|103|1302|1068
2001-02|112|88|1131|892|93|99|1314|1008
2002-03|121|85|1301|904|95|81|1298|1031
2003-04|107|87|1180|921|106|77|1255|1078
2005-06|121|104|1156|1122|112|121|1244|1276
2006-07|101|93|1133|1063|105|100|1221|1269
2007-08|104|93|1190|1078|94|100|1172|1179
2008-09|134|97|1324|1152|104|110|1374|1263
2009-10|123|87|1179|1026|93|99|1280|1187
2010-11|92|100|1173|1074|79|107|1171|1110
2011-12|111|102|1134|1074|105|103|1119|1125
Total|1527|1222|15863|13212|1379|1305|16358|14771
T/GP|2.86|2.29|29.76|24.79|2.59|2.45|30.69|27.71

SV% are higher for both teams in Devils' road games with an additional 3.85 shots per game over the Devils' home average.