Markov signs with AK Bars (KHL) [MOD WARNING POST 60]

[Andrei79]

What's the point of your post really?

Why even negotiate then?

(Mod)

Why did Kevin Lowe offer sheet Vanek ?

Who knows, they're idiots, they operate on incomprehensable logic. We have know for a fact MB's not shy to overpay for his garbage players, but also offer insulting lowballs to the ones he doesn't fancy. It's a common theme now to have the media turn on a player just before MB plans to let go/trade. Of course, we also learn it was all BS. In this case, how Markov absolutely wanted 2 years and was tending offers from other teams.

 

[Andrei79]

(MOD)
Let's say Bergevin wants Markov, but at 2M for 1 year.

Why would he sign it?

And don't even dare citing the 12M/2 years report. It's BS. It came with an addedum: that Markov wanted no less than 2 years. It has no credibiliy.

Seeing Subban sign for less than 3M, then being played hardball with after a Norris (and traded). Beaulieu traded for a 3rd. Jagr denied completely a few years ago, Radulov dicked around, Galchenyuk on the market foe the whole year. What makes you think in his past behavior he values offense ?

And have you listened to his presser ? How do you come away with the impression he's anything but a moron. What's the appeal ? The eloquence ? The hockey pearls of wisdom on what a first line center is?

You know, GMs make good AND bad moves. You're allowed to criticize them, you're not part of a religious sect. Some GMs, a minority, are complete ***** too. Unfortunately for us, ours is.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

It's been an absolutely brutal year for many Habs fan. Lose PK, but then we get Radu as a silver lining only to lose him 12 months later, and now Markov.

The three players I enjoyed watching the most are all gone in the span of a year.

Bravo Bargain bin! You sure know how to keep fans happy and to build a contender. Smh

Worst. GM. Ever.

 

[Kojo]

It's been an absolutely brutal year for many Habs fan. Lose PK, but then we get Radu as a silver lining only to lose him 12 months later, and now Markov.

The three players I enjoyed watching the most are all gone in the span of a year.

Bravo Bargain bin! You sure know how to keep fans happy and to build a contender. Smh

Worst. GM. Ever.

At least it's entertaining to see how this GM find new ways to destroy this sport franchise.

 

[Atas2000]

KHL regular season ends beginning of March. I wouldn't be surprised if Marky is back for the last 15-20 games.

...and the playoffs start. Why would Markov come back to a Bergevin team?

 

[WatchfulElm]

So if there is a US city that has very few Blacks, it would ok to say that "we don't want Blacks on the team. It is not racist, just merely wanting players that identify with "our" demographic.

If that example makes anyone uncomfortable, substitute Jews, Catholics, or any other label to group individuals under.

You're comparing apple and orange. You must be horrified by the Olympics then, since they chose the players according to their nationality!!! So racist!!

Nationalism is not racism, as long as it's moderate and as long as it's based on the land/territory, not on physical/religious attributes.

That said, I disagree with wanting a team that "represents more our demographic". But I believe it's desirable, and not racist at all, for a team, no matter where in the world, to try to get more players that are "local boys", who are from the area the team is playing in, as long as it's never detrimental to talent and success. It makes sense marketing wise. It makes it easier for the fans to cheer and identify with them. It makes it easier for the player to adapt. It's a win-win situation.

 

[Belial]

Let's say Bergevin wants Markov, but at 2M for 1 year.

Why would he sign it?

This is pure speculation on your part but at the end of the day if remaining a Hab was such high priority for Markov why didn't he take a pay cut?

Buy a dog buddy.

And don't even dare citing the 12M/2 years report. It's BS. It came with an addedum: that Markov wanted no less than 2 years. It has no credibiliy.

Well, it's BS for sure because it doesn't fit your narrative of Bergevin being a moron.

Seeing Subban sign for less than 3M, then being played hardball with after a Norris (and traded). Beaulieu traded for a 3rd. Jagr denied completely a few years ago, Radulov dicked around, Galchenyuk on the market foe the whole year. What makes you think in his past behavior he values offense ?

Traded for Vanek? Signed Semin? Signed Hemsky? Signed Radulov? Traded for Ryder? Signed Briere? Signed Sekac? Traded for Drouin?

What do you have? Mitchell, Flynn, King and Ott?

And have you listened to his presser ? How do you come away with the impression he's anything but a moron. What's the appeal ? The eloquence ? The hockey pearls of wisdom on what a first line center is?

Was this guy hired to be a press conference guru? As long as he can get along with the other GM's I could care less.

And strangely all I keep hearing is positive feedback coming from his peers, it must be some kind of conspiracy.

You know, GMs make good AND bad moves. You're allowed to criticize them, you're not part of a religious sect. Some GMs, a minority, are complete ***** too. Unfortunately for us, ours is.

Agree to disagree.

 

[GoodKiwi]

I won't lie...Markov's departure has probably severed the very last tie I had to this franchise. I won't pretend I was ever the Habs biggest fan (or hockey's fan really), but this breakup left a deeper hole in my heart than I thought it would.

My Habs sentiment is now as follows:

https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.ne...d4wnk5t.png/revision/latest?cb=20150702205240

 

[Kojo]

What is it with this team that they constantly trade some of the best defenseman away? Chelios, Desjardins. And now Subban, Sergachev. This comment should probably be moved to another thread but I am upset right now.

 

[MXD]

That said, I disagree with wanting a team that "represents more our demographic". But I believe it's desirable, and not racist at all, for a team, no matter where in the world, to try to get more players that are "local boys", who are from the area the team is playing in, as long as it's never detrimental to talent and success. It makes sense marketing wise. It makes it easier for the fans to cheer and identify with them. It makes it easier for the player to adapt. It's a win-win situation.

...Besides, I fail to see how Alzner, Jerabek and Streit represents "local" boys more than Markov (did).

 

[MXD]

What is it with this team that they constantly trade some of the best defenseman away? Chelios, Desjardins. And now Subban, Sergachev. This comment should probably be moved to another thread but I am upset right now.

...One of these is not like the others...

 

[Scriptor]

...One of these is not like the others...

I know you meant Sergachev, but I'll go with Chelios. Him, I was really happy to see moved out of town, but that's not for stuff on the ice.

 

[Kojo]

...One of these is not like the others...

Sergachev ceiling is the moon, worst case scenario he's the next Malakhov.

 

[MXD]

Sergachev ceiling is the moon, worst case scenario he's the next Malakhov.

1 - No...
2 - Even if he ends up being the next Malakhov (his upside is higher than that -- but his downside is significantly lower...), that still makes him not like the others...

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Leave the language debates at the door.

 

[Price is Wright]

No homegrown defencemen on the Habs.

Unless you count Streit.

 

[japhi]

There are posters here who are openly saying "NO MORE RUSSIANS!" are they're apparently allowed to run around. The organisation didn't sign (or approach?) the two KHL forwards either - Dadonov and Shipachev.

Clearly, like Subban and DSP, they all had "off-ice issues" or were "selfish" or "something"...

You really don't understand the issues with Russian players? It has nothing to do with off ice issues, the issue is the KHL. No KHL and Markov is a Hab next year at 5.5. No KHL and the Wings draft their 2016 first rounder. Radulov has 230 games at 31 and has no history of injuries, care to guess why? MB's fault? Kuznetsov has 200 career points at 25 and just signed for 7.8. Terrible deal leveraged by the KHL and the caps gm said as much.

Russians are a nightmare for NHL teams, this is not even debatable.

 

[MXD]

You really don't understand the issues with Russian players? It has nothing to do with off ice issues, the issue is the KHL. No KHL and Markov is a Hab next year at 5.5. No KHL and the Wings draft their 2016 first rounder. Radulov has 230 games at 31 and has no history of injuries, care to guess why? MB's fault? Kuznetsov has 200 career points at 25 and just signed for 7.8. Terrible deal leveraged by the KHL and the caps gm said as much.

Russians are a nightmare for NHL teams, this is not even debatable.

The emphasized is... really debateable.

 

[Wats]

You really don't understand the issues with Russian players? It has nothing to do with off ice issues, the issue is the KHL. No KHL and Markov is a Hab next year at 5.5. No KHL and the Wings draft their 2016 first rounder. Radulov has 230 games at 31 and has no history of injuries, care to guess why? MB's fault? Kuznetsov has 200 career points at 25 and just signed for 7.8. Terrible deal leveraged by the KHL and the caps gm said as much.

Russians are a nightmare for NHL teams, this is not even debatable.

Kuznetsov has a 77 point season in the NHL. Let's see what Pacioretty gets after never cracking 70.

Let's see what Montreal does with their 9M in capspace this season that's better than 1 year of Markov. Joe Thornton got 8M after his season and age, guess we should be scared of Canadians too now.

Galchenyuk has more games than Drouin, I'm sure you'll argue that Galchenyuk is safer player.

Panarin < Shaw. Both 25 but Shaw has more games. Safer player, not a nightmare.

 

[SnapVirus]

He signed for 2 years.

No hope to see him next season

 

[Kojo]

No MB and Markov is back. And Radulov for that matter. Russians are not a nightmare, one of the best player in the last years is none other than a Russian, three of the best players actually if you include Kovalchyuk.

 

[Brainiac]

Kuznetsov has a 77 point season in the NHL. Let's see what Pacioretty gets after never cracking 70.

Let's see what Montreal does with their 9M in capspace this season that's better than 1 year of Markov. Joe Thornton got 8M after his season and age, guess we should be scared of Canadians too now.

You think all canadians are the same? Thornton has a huge beard. That's the problem.

 

[Kant Think]

(MOD)
Let's say Bergevin wants Markov, but at 2M for 1 year.

Why would he sign it?

And don't even dare citing the 12M/2 years report. It's BS. It came with an addedum: that Markov wanted no less than 2 years. It has no credibiliy.

Seeing Subban sign for less than 3M, then being played hardball with after a Norris (and traded). Beaulieu traded for a 3rd. Jagr denied completely a few years ago, Radulov dicked around, Galchenyuk on the market foe the whole year. What makes you think in his past behavior he values offense ?

And have you listened to his presser ? How do you come away with the impression he's anything but a moron. What's the appeal ? The eloquence ? The hockey pearls of wisdom on what a first line center is?

You know, GMs make good AND bad moves. You're allowed to criticize them, you're not part of a religious sect. Some GMs, a minority, are complete ***** too. Unfortunately for us, ours is.

Amen

 

[Kant Think]

...One of these is not like the others...

Indeed, Subban is the only one with 2 syllables in his name instead of 3.

Keen eye.

 

[Kant Think]

No homegrown defencemen on the Habs.

Unless you count Streit.

AND he was drafted fully developed.

Go team Go