People that don't understand the game, don't realize how much more important centers are than wings.....
Marko Dano
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I'm not sure why there is a debate going on. Saad wanted paid, we couldn't afford it, so we trade him for some very good pieces. Everyone is happy...except this board, which is always.
BobbyJet
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Behn Wilson
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Actually I would say this is one of those rare trades that is a win-win for both sides
Ace Rothstein
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Yup, Columbus is happy with Saad and the knowledgeable Hawks fans are pretty thrilled with AA. If Dano develops into a top 6 player, thats gravy.
hockeydoug
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RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
What do you make of Dano's shooting percentage in Rockford? 2 goals on 59 shots, good for a 3.4 SH%. That's the lowest of any forward currently on the team not named Baun and Liambas [neither have scored].
McNeill was sitting at 16.1 before the call up.
http://www.icehogs.com/team/stats/
McNeill was sitting at 16.1 before the call up.
http://www.icehogs.com/team/stats/
JaegerDice
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I think as long as he's generating shots and chances, then it's completely fine. Shooting percentage varies wildly. All a player can control is his output towards the net.
Marotte Marauder
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Ridiculous.
...and from what I've seen, some games and highlights, the kid is not a finisher.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Those numbers by Dano, when you consider that he couldn't finish in Chicago either don't bode well. Combine that with his lack of quickness and, though he is still a kid, there's a possibility that he is not NHL material. Time will tell, but he needs to start bulging the twine in RFD.
Kurtosis
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BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Kurtosis
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I'm open to the newer stats and think there is definitely a place for them, but the notion that a player can only control the amount of shots they place on net (and not the accuracy) is spurious.
Taze em
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I think its funny to see the worried posts and side eyes "im not sure about this guy" sentiment on this board about Dano. It's solely because he was traded and you havent watched him coming up. Because he wasn't a hawk from the beginning.
23 pts in 48 nhl games
Teravainen 31 pts in 85 games
SAME AGE. Did Teuvo light up the AHL? No. when he was there everyone said "oh he's too good for the league" "way better than his teammates".
Find a Columbus fan and ask them about Dano. They know more about him than you do.
23 pts in 48 nhl games
Teravainen 31 pts in 85 games
SAME AGE. Did Teuvo light up the AHL? No. when he was there everyone said "oh he's too good for the league" "way better than his teammates".
Find a Columbus fan and ask them about Dano. They know more about him than you do.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Not a good comparison..... It's more than just going by the numbers. TT was an obvious talent from day 1, Dano has not proven to be anywhere close to that ... but as I said, time is on his side.
Taze em
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Explain how Dano hasn't proven to be a talent? Was it the 14 pts in 8 games as a U-20 playing for Slovakia? The 21 pts in 35 games for the Jackets as a 20 year old?
Or going back to his age 19 year did you dislike his 9 pts in 6 games in the U20?
Didn't like him getting picked in the first round?
Dano has been a better pro player than Teravainen thus far in their careers BUT Q is doing the right thing with Dano by giving him a rough ride to this team. Doesn't diminish the talent we are talking about.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
I hope you are right. I admit the sample size I am referring to is a short one and I didn't watch him when he played in CBJ. My eye test tells me that he has a way to go yet and the fact that he is having trouble scoring with this organization isn't helping my assessment (the assessment that he needs to work on his skating, particularly his explosiveness, to crack the Hawks' line-up).
Taze em
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That's always been his knock and I was called crazy for saying that was his knock in the first bit of the Dano trade thread. Other than his footspeed he is supremely talented. Now all of a sudden everyone is dogging him and it's the opposite for me. He's great but he is who he is. He is a Ducks/Van/LA/Bos style 50-60 point player not a Hawks 50-60 point player right now and that's ok. He just has to learn. He should be in RFD until he's ready to go down that type of NHL production path. 35-45-60 in the next three years is easy for me to envision.
BK
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Dano and TT are not comparable in my book because TT 100% different player that plays the game using his talent (like Dano) but also playing a extremely cerebral game that few players can play. Just different style games all together.
His shooting % is a concern but the fact that he gets pucks on net is a huge positive. Shooting is a skill that you can improve greatly as you age I think we can assume his shot is going to get better as he ages and that it is something he is working on. This is all under the assumption that he is working his ass off in Rockford. Dano like other late first round prospect will take longer to develop unlike a top 5 pick (this is obvious I know but all 1st round picks are not the same).
I look at this way if he shoots 13% his goal total would go from 2 to 8 which is a big jump and would put him at close to a ppg player in the AHL. I know I am talking about an "if" but I think it is a realistic if considering his talent.
Do I wish he was farther along? 100% yes but I think he has made solid strides so far and it is easy to forget he is just 21.
His shooting % is a concern but the fact that he gets pucks on net is a huge positive. Shooting is a skill that you can improve greatly as you age I think we can assume his shot is going to get better as he ages and that it is something he is working on. This is all under the assumption that he is working his ass off in Rockford. Dano like other late first round prospect will take longer to develop unlike a top 5 pick (this is obvious I know but all 1st round picks are not the same).
I look at this way if he shoots 13% his goal total would go from 2 to 8 which is a big jump and would put him at close to a ppg player in the AHL. I know I am talking about an "if" but I think it is a realistic if considering his talent.
Do I wish he was farther along? 100% yes but I think he has made solid strides so far and it is easy to forget he is just 21.
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The fact that noone is talking about his passing/vision this season particularly is more alarming. His shooting % right now is garbage, but he is still developing in other areas.
BK
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His passing and vision are fine and not a concern to me to be honest. We focus on the bad here, duh!
Marotte Marauder
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In the games I've seen Dano, he has not stood out in any phase of the game. The only thing I observed, and wanted to see something given the hype when Hawks got him, was some nice hands receiving passes. That's about it.....thus far.
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