Prospect Info: Marco Rossi, Center, 9th Overall - Part 2

[57special]

Turcotte for Rossi who says no?

We say no, all day long. Turcotte is an oft injured non entity in the AHL, nvm NHL. Rossi is younger, lost a year due to Covid, and has done really well in the AHL.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I thought it was just one concussion.

I thought it was at least two. The dude has had injury issues. I will be surprised if he makes it to the NHL and sticks.

 

[AKL]

I thought it was at least two. The dude has had injury issues. I will be surprised if he makes it to the NHL and sticks.

It's been at least two along with other injuries mixed in along the way

 

[Circulartheory]

We say no, all day long. Turcotte is an oft injured non entity in the AHL, nvm NHL. Rossi is younger, lost a year due to Covid, and has done really well in the AHL.

Agreed. Going with the mystery box logic, Rossi has the more interesting package since he's ACTUALLY done well in the AHL.

Question would be different with Turcotte had similarly bad AHL years but had like 20points in the NHL. One could at least argue he has lower ceiling but has proven to be a bottom sixer etc etc. But he doesn't have that working for him.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Turcotte has had issues with injuries, so yes there is that concern but when he has played and adjusted he has been a major difference maker.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Turcotte has had issues with injuries, so yes there is that concern but when he has played and adjusted he has been a major difference maker.

Where?

 

[57special]

Turcotte has had issues with injuries, so yes there is that concern but when he has played and adjusted he has been a major difference maker.

Come again? When? Turcotte has never been a difference maker in the AHL. He had a good, but not outstanding season in College 4 years ago. On the contrary, his numbers have gone down every year in the AHL, while concerns about his health have gone up.

There is no guarantee that Rossi becomes an effective NHL player, but if the choice is between betting on him or Turcotte to make it, Rossi is the obvious choice, for me.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Come again? When? Turcotte has never been a difference maker in the AHL. He had a good, but not outstanding season in College 4 years ago. On the contrary, his numbers have gone down every year in the AHL, while concerns about his health have gone up.

There is no guarantee that Rossi becomes an effective NHL player, but if the choice is between betting on him or Turcotte to make it, Rossi is the obvious choice, for me.

First off, there were multiple concussions (one in the playoffs, one during the regular season). The injuries are a concern, but the talent is still there.

Secondly, I've read the analytics are there. Can't find where I read that, I think on Reddit, but the analytics are there when he's healthy.

Third, Turcotte may not be an elite or even top line center, but can project in the middle 6. Rossi is questionable if he's not in the top 6.

Fourth, most think Turcotte left too early from Wisconsin, but as we saw with Stramel and Granato, it was a rock and a hard spot and the Kings may have thought they could have a better hand's on approach with Turcotte. He also ended the season in Wisconsin with 9 points in 8 games.

Fifth, the injuries are a big concern and that's the only hesitation I have with Turcotte. But if Rossi is sent back to the AHL, I think we can look at him as the next big bust in line with Shep and Pouls.

 

[MNRube]

Makes zero sense to swap Rossi for an older player who is less productive and has more injury concerns.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Makes zero sense to swap Rossi for an older player who is less productive and has more injury concerns.

But can project as a middle 6 guy and could possible contribute like Freddie Gaudreau.

Honestly would you want a Gaudreau or a Petan?

 

[Wasted Talent]

But can project as a middle 6 guy and could possible contribute like Freddie Gaudreau.

Honestly would you want a Gaudreau or a Petan?

We already have a Gaudreau for 5 more years anyway, do we need another?

 

[thestonedkoala]

We already have a Gaudreau for 5 more years anyway, do we need another?

I mean we could always use depth. We signed Sam Steel last year, and they are expecting Khaira to make the team. Plus Dewar, Duhaime, Shaw (if he recovers), and Maroon could all be gone.

 

[BagHead]

I mean we could always use depth. We signed Sam Steel last year, and they are expecting Khaira to make the team. Plus Dewar, Duhaime, Shaw (if he recovers), and Maroon could all be gone.

I still wouldn't trade a potential top 6 center for a potential middle 6 center, unless that potential was very close to being recognized. In Turcotte's case, it's not.

 

[Circulartheory]

But can project as a middle 6 guy and could possible contribute like Freddie Gaudreau.

Honestly would you want a Gaudreau or a Petan?

IMO thats a bit unfair projection bc it assumes the best case scenario for Turcotte vs the worst case scenario for Rossi. I think a more interesting thought experience in this scenario - Gaudreau vs Granlund. Though very off-topic and please ppl, do not take this very far...

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Guerin said he put on 15 lb. of muscle this summer working out with the Wild training staff. Surely that can't be right?

Hockey players always report this type of stuff. 15LBs if muscle in 5 months would be near impossible for a new lifter, not to mention someone whose been training for years.

 

[AKL]

IMO thats a bit unfair projection bc it assumes the best case scenario for Turcotte vs the worst case scenario for Rossi. I think a more interesting thought experience in this scenario - Gaudreau vs Granlund. Though very off-topic and please ppl, do not take this very far...

 

[57special]

Hockey players always report this type of stuff. 15LBs if muscle in 5 months would be near impossible for a new lifter, not to mention someone whose been training for years.

Well, I have lost almost 15 lbs. in preparation for the 2023-24 posting season. I feel faster, more alert, and my typing is much more efficient. It is possible!

 

[BagHead]

Well, I have lost almost 15 lbs. in preparation for the 2023-24 posting season. I feel faster, more alert, and my typing is much more efficient. It is possible!

You should see 57special's hand muscles. His fingers are like tree trunks.

 

[Minnewildsota]

You should see 57special's hand muscles. His fingers are like tree trunks.

To his own dismay….

 

[Wabit]

You should see 57special's hand muscles. His fingers are like tree trunks.

On both hands or just one?


Yep. I'm taking that bait.

 

[TaLoN]

You should see 57special's hand muscles. His fingers are like tree trunks.

@57special after a summer of training...

 

[BagHead]

@57special after a summer of training...

 

[Minnewildsota]

@57special after a summer of training...

Is that what we’re calling it now, “training “?

 

[Jbcraig1883]

My germsss!

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Random post, on KFAN this afternoon Rowsi wants to be called Rossi again. His reasoning is, Rowsi is supposed to have a rolling R, since us Americans don't do that he Likes Rossi better.

Per Brandon Mileski