Prospect Info: Marco Rossi, Center, 9th Overall - Part 2
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Circulartheory
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And ahh ... the grey area of being employed ... I haven't yet had to skip a wedding but I've skipped a few holidays for the job to prove myself and try to move up.
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I guess that's the biggest difference between Faber and Yurov, actually being excited to watch Yurov during his rookie season
Holidays are once a year. your sister's wedding is "supposed to be" once in a lifetime.
Just to play devil's advocate. It makes a good excuse to skip a wedding instead of paying for the overseas travel. Not dealing with friends and family asking what happened last year is a bonus too. Plus maybe he's not really close with his sister (I'm not with any of mine and would skip their weddings if it's too inconvenient for me to go).
I thought it was interesting(as did Russo) that Walker tested 2nd on the team (ahead of Rossi and behind JEE) in the strength test, as his lack of strength and bulk is what is holding him back from being a full time NHL'er, IMO. He already has the speed, IQ, and enough skill to be a top 9/2nd PP unit guy, IMO. Just needs to be a bit better along the boards, and winning puck battles.
It's only one test, but if it indicates that if he has also had a good summer of training then he and Rossi might battle in training camp for a forward spot.
It's only one test, but if it indicates that if he has also had a good summer of training then he and Rossi might battle in training camp for a forward spot.
Circulartheory
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True and if the team was forcing him, that would be a no no. But a team 'suggestion' and when we are all of us are saying it is a "make or break" year ... one would have to sit down and think about one's priorities. No one would hold it against him if he went, but also should speak volume to where his mind is at this summer.
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I'm not the biggest fan of management, but in no way do I believe that they prevented him, or pressured him into not going back home for a week/weekend during the summer. Not a chance.
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I don't think it was pressuring to skip his sisters wedding, but that snippet I posted is from Russo's article about Rossi's exit interview, so it's nigh indisputable that Guerin heavily implied that staying in Minnesota would be what's best for Rossi.
After that, maybe they didn't even know his sister was having a wedding, but Rossi wasn't going to try skipping his training for it because he wanted to please his management. I'm not saying it's malice on the part of Guerin or anyone else, but Rossi was probably worried (probably irrationally) that if he tried leaving again, it would hurt his chances to impress his boss, essentially.
Or maybe like Wabit said, he didn't really wanna go that badly either, and hockey really was his top priority.
Again, wasn't trying to imply malice on behalf of Guerin, but he's still a kid trying to do what he thinks is best for his career.
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I don't think it has anything to do with pleasing management. I'm sure it has everything to do with wanting to start living up to his and everybody else's expectations. Obviously it was something that he felt he needed to do.
I'm interpreting the "staying in Minnesota" thing as a "don't go back to Austria for 4 months, stay here and work with our guys", not a "you shouldn't leave Minnesota at all over the summer". You can stay in Minnesota and still go home for week.
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Sure, of course he wants to start living up the expectations and get better as a hockey player. I 100% believe that was very much part of it, not denying that.
But if you're a kid just starting your career, and you're not performing the way you and your boss had hoped, and your boss says something to the effect of, "hey you might wanna put in some extra time to improve ____ about your performance", you're probably not going to take any chances by asking for time off, until you've met those expectations.
And again, there's probably a good chance Guerin didn't know about the wedding, so there's no malice there, and again maybe Wabit is right. But Rossi was never going to ask, so I'm just saying there should have been an adult in the room to kinda nudge him towards going. There are things more important than your job, is the point I'm trying to make, and kids don't always realize that when they're feeling pressure.
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I would have done a lot, to not attend a wedding, whether it was my sister, a friend ,or even my own. I hate to dress up and mingle with tons of people.
BagHead
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I like dressing up, I dislike mingling, and I love open bars. Luckily the open bar helps with the mingling.
I did not enjoy my own wedding though. Too much stress, and basically no drinks (for me).
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I think that a Johansson/Rossi/Gaudreau line would be a decent balance/compromise between "gifting" him a spot and playing him with "scrubs", at least to start off.
Too bad we don't have a better option for a top 6 winger than Johansson, unless Beckman/Walker come into camp/preseason and go off.
Too bad we don't have a better option for a top 6 winger than Johansson, unless Beckman/Walker come into camp/preseason and go off.
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Dr Jan Itor
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The issue with this is “Better-than-Johansson” will very likely not be better than Johansson.
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Yeah, would work if Walker or Beckman came to camp and put on a show, but neither of them were better players than Rossi in the AHL last year so I guess I don't have high hopes for that
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Also, Boldy looks a lot better with a speedy player. Can Walker even be on the roster with our cap situation? I haven’t looked. He might have to be some sort of stop gap.
Ideally for me:
Kap-Hartman-Zucc
Johansson-Ek-Boldy
Gaudreau*-Rossi-Walker
If Rossi shows he can skate 5 feet with the puck without looking like a deer in headlights, that’s when you start giving him cracks with the top 6. Maybe start him on the power play with them to build offensive confidence.
That’s how I would go about it.
* - was originally Foligno, meant to say Gaudreau
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Dr Jan Itor
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If somebody starts on IR, then I'm guessing so. But we have $43k in cap space right now, and Walker makes $80k more than Khaira, so we couldn't just swap those two and remain compliant.
If Addison would've just been forced to take his QO amount, then there would've been enough room for Walker. It was after Khaira signed that Addison signed, so my thinking is that they are planning to go with him as the 13th forward to start.
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That is most unfortunate. I think Walker deserves a shot at this moment too. I’m not super involved with the cap accumulation; I wonder how many days it will take to accumulate that extra difference between Walker. I’m assuming Khaira will be sent down until he is needed.
Stylistically, I think Foligno-Gaudreau-Hartman should work. I also like that Hartman isn’t taking draws because by golly he is the worst at them.
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