Confirmed with Link: Mantha to Vegas for 2nd and 4th round picks

[arlcapsfan]

Crap return…..

 

[tycoonheart]

Lmao playoff push with this team?

Yes.

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

Another GMBM fail

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Cap Friendly has updated the trade and it shows the 2nd is in '24 and the 4th is in '26.

It also shows Mantha's salary with Vegas at $2,850,000. So did we eat 50%?

 

[Langway]

Correction: the fourth is in '26.

The deal is...fine. Normal for a winger of that magnitude IMO. Their sense of direction is...random.

It's all going to be about the follow-up and how they restructure. Consider me skeptical they really know what to do aside from a basic thiftiness and sort of resignation re: non-competitiveness.

 

[HecticGlow]

We couldn’t give him away last off season, so it’s a lot better than it could’ve been.

What’s unfortunate is that we have very few pieces to move this year worth much - no Orlovs, certainly. I don’t see Patch, Edmunson or Dowd getting a first.

 

[Random schmoe]

I would've held out for a better second asset, maybe from a team that doesn't win the Guentzel lottery or a team that would've needed us to retain..

Edit:
And shit, we ARE retaining 50%???

 

[HeyMattyB]

As a UFA coming off (what will likely be) a career year and looking to cash in on his last big payday AND with the salary cap going up, Mantha is absolutely going to sign a UFA deal that no Caps fan should be comfortable with.

He is not going to sign a "reasonable" or "team-friendly" 2 year x $5M "prove it" deal that some people here keep trying to push. That's just wishful thinking to the point of self delusion. Dude is having a career year. That's him proving it. And he's going to look to get paid. He'll go where the term and money are.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Another GMBM fail

Makfi is still in the shadows in Vegas and he know's BMAC too well.

 

[OV Rocks]

Not bad with no retention. Waiting until TDL for the full picture. Maybe the 2nd gets flipped, maybe we need to move this year/25 1st and they want to have a 2nd.

6 months ago we all would be excited by the return to unload him. I have a feeling he is getting up for a contract year and this will be the outlier

Wait and see.

Also allows retention deals for other players

 

[g00n]

As a UFA coming off (what will likely be) a career year and looking to cash in on his last big payday AND with the salary cap going up, Mantha is absolutely going to sign a UFA deal that no Caps fan should be comfortable with.

He is not going to sign a "reasonable" or "team-friendly" 2 year x $5M "prove it" deal that some people here keep trying to push. That's just wishful thinking to the point of self delusion. Dude is having a career year. That's him proving it. And he's going to look to get paid. He'll go where the term and money are.

Yup.

Door#1: 2nd and a 4th
Door #2: nothing

take your pick

 

[Cappy76]

A 2nd and 4th with no retention is about as expect, all the talk of a 1st was centered around us retaining 50%. Can't grade the deadline on 1 trade made 3 days before said deadline.

 

[Caps8112]

We couldn’t give him away last off season, so it’s a lot better than it could’ve been.

What’s unfortunate is that we have very few pieces to move this year worth much - no Orlovs, certainly. I don’t see Patch, Edmunson or Dowd getting a first.

The teams trading out firsts are trading late firsts that barely make the teams anyways. Caps will have to go full fail to get another player in the future that could be a superstar. Unless they are gathering late firsts to trade for superstars it’s meh anyway.

 

[Brian23]

All the people whinging about how this is another "GMBM fail", please inform us what he should have gotten? What should Mantha have returned? What would you have done?

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Not bad with no retention. Waiting until TDL for the full picture. Maybe the 2nd gets flipped, maybe we need to move this year/25 1st and they want to have a 2nd.

6 months ago we all would be excited by the return to unload him. I have a feeling he is getting up for a contract year and this will be the outlier

Wait and see.

Main trade boards show 50% retention.

 

[MileHighCapsFan]

I'd expect these picks used as part of another trade. Get them early to use as chips through the deadline.

 

[HeyMattyB]

Not bad with no retention.

Also allows retention deals for other players

Welp.

 

[Brian23]

A 2nd and 4th with no retention is about as expect, all the talk of a 1st was centered around us retaining 50%. Can't grade the deadline on 1 trade made 3 days before said deadline.

 

[OV Rocks]

Main trade boards show 50% retention.

Buzz kill

 

[g00n]

LOL it's not your money!

 

[Cappy76]

Welp.

Well that's a bit disappointing thought we could have gotten more with 50% retention. Guess not though. Either way he's a player we weren't bringing back and we got something for him.

 

[Brian23]

I mean, the only other realistic guy they'd retain on is Dowd. I don't know why anyone's too worried about retention slots.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Right after the All Star break it was reported that Vegas was heavily scouting the Caps. They evidently had scouts at the first five or so games after the break. And all along I thought it was Pacioretty that they were interested in since he had played for Vegas once before.

 

[crab]

The deal is now pretty awful with 50% retention since they are limited now doing that for other moves. GMBM has been quite mediocre over the last few years.

 

[Holtbyisms]

So we retained the max and still only got a bottom half of the second round pick? That seems like we pulled the trigger too quick. Rather roll the dice and see if there's another taker closer to the deadline if that's the best Vegas could do.