Managerial merry go round part II

[davemess]

And you think that will stop Real Madrid?

Depends what Levy ends up asking for..... if its shy of £50mill I would be surprised.

 

[les Habs]

Saw that Pochettino has a 7 million release clause. Also saw that Allegri is Plan B.

A number of notable former La Liga players have completed the same management course. Xavi, Raul, Xabi Alonso, Victor Valdes, Marcos Senna, Julio Baptista, etc. Xabi Alonso will be coaching in Madrid's youth set up.

 

[Savant]

A clickbait title to a stupid article about something that has been claimed to be non-existant by all insiders.
That's -level journalism by The Guardian.

And you're deflecting my question. How does that make him a better fit?

Most of the papers including the Spanish ones are reporting this. Some say he has a release clause, some dont, but I'm not going to speculate on that.
I dont think Zidane's Madrid teams have resembled the teams that the other linked coaches, namely Conte and Allegri have played. Madrid isnt going to sacrifice one of the midfielders or attackers to go three at the back like Conte wants to do. Allegri is closer but he says he isnt going anywhere but who knows. Wenger? Lol. Who else has been linked? All I'm saying is that if Madrid wants Pochettino they will find a way.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I just realized that Real have only won la liga once in the past 6 years. How the **** does that happen?

Messi duh

 

[Power Man]

Messi duh

La Liga Messi

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Marca was the paper claiming Pochettino had the clause to begin with. However now they say he doesn't have any.

So, yeah. Just your typical bullshit.

 

[cgf]

Messi duh

So is Ronaldo not alpha enough to keep it up for a whole season?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

So does Ronaldo not have enough alpha-ness to keep it up for a whole season?

You can't compare mortals to a God... silly.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

You can't compare mortals to a God... silly.

HGH is the nektar of Gods?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

If Spurs let Pochettino go I hope they hire Wenger.

Never happening, I know. But imagine the hilarity.

 

[Deficient Mode]

@cgf

 

[The Abusement Park]

What does it say though lol

 

[cgf]

@cgf

That would be a better show than Watzke & Mourinho

 

[Hadoop]

Some interesting notes with Zidane leaving:

• Not sure about his credibility, but at TV presenter for La Sexta has revealed Zidane's last conversation with Florentino Perez. Apparently it was at a meeting with Jose Angel Sanchez where it was expected that Zidane would want to talk about signings. Well that was not the case. “I will not continue”. The coach said “There is deterioration, I'm getting worn down with this squad. I think that things will get worse, the best thing to do is leave, that’s the best for you and for me.” Zidane apparently promised not to take charge of another team for the coming season, but that's to be expected either way.
• Zidane during his press conference said that his best moment with Madrid was... winning La Liga. @koyvoo

Not shocking news he's gone if you think about it. It definitely sounds like a difficult dressing room to manage. Add to that 2.5 years at that level surely takes it's toll, but then you have to consider he came from managing the Castilla side for 2 years as well. So for me that's always a lot more than what people make it out to be. The timing is also perfect with the CL win. Still I'd say there's more to it than that. This latest campaign really wasn't that impressive. The CL run-in wasn't as good as previous seasons and the Final was dour. Then you have a poor Liga campaign and nothing in the Copa. You've also got an aging starting XI with players like Modric and Ronaldo clearly on the decline. Some of their younger players look good, but still a lot of question marks over many of them too. I always find it tough to rate Zidane. On the one hand I find him rather underrated here. On the other overrated at times. I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle but leaning towards underrated. Either way his management of this Madrid side from rotations as @Corto is always banging on about, to the man-management side of the squad and to the subtle tactical changes (formation, the reinvention of Ronaldo) he deserves a good level of credit. And while I'm no Zidane fan, he deserves credit for the way this has gone down. He gave it some time after the Final to let the club and it's supporters celebrate, but then he also didn't let it drag on and you didn't see it coming. More importantly though, Madrid look at somewhat of a transitional point and his leaving now probably makes that easier. So full credit to him for how he handled, and I'm sure it takes some balls to tell a mafioso boss like Florentino Perez you're leaving on your own terms.

Very interesting to see what Madrid do now. Someone mentioned Pochettino, but didn't he just sign a new deal with Spurs? It's funny someone mentioned Wenger. Of course if you've been around enough Wenger was linked with both Madrid and Barça some years ago on somewhat regular basis. Still what's really interesting is I swear that last night I saw a blurb about Wenger wanting to manage a really big side. And note, this was before the Zidane news. Anyway, I think anyone's reasonable guess is a possibility at this stage, but I think Florentino Perez plays it safe.



It was a shock win for most who follow La Liga, but that's what happens when the refs give you at least 12 points as has been well documented.

Great post. An excellent summary and evaluation of Zidane's time at Real

 

[Chimaera]

“When Madrid call, you have to listen”.

Spurs better get ready to see him move.

 

[Havre]

You don't know Pochettino that well I guess?

That is the way he always communicates. "No-one knows what will happen tomorrow" blablabla. He says it about himself and about players. Always has.

Personally I find it a bit stupid, especially with someone like Eriksen with only two years left on his current deal, but I would not read too much into a comment like that (again - words can be interpreted in many ways).

Still believe there is about 0.00 something chance of Pochettino leaving Spurs this summer. It might have gone from 0.001 to 0.002.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Leeds lining up move to hire Bielsa - sources

 

[spintheblackcircle]

“When Madrid call, you have to listen”.

Spurs better get ready to see him move.

What do you expect him to say?

 

[koyvoo]

The reality is, if Madrid actually really to want him, it’s more a question of who does he take with him, rather than if he’d go.

 

[Havre]

The reality is, if Madrid actually really to want him, it’s more a question of who does he take with him, rather than if he’d go.

Right. The same way Wenger was hired twice by RM?

 

[koyvoo]

I question how much they really actually wanted him. Again, if it’s absolutely and immovably their number one focus, he’ll go win trophies.

 

[Savant]

Right. The same way Wenger was hired twice by RM?

I'm sure you understand why this is a lousy comparison, but as long as it makes you feel better.

 

[Havre]

They approached him twice because he is just such a lovely fellow?

Some think RM get everything they want as if Juande Ramos and Benitez never managed the team.

 

[Havre]

I'm sure you understand why this is a lousy comparison, but as long as it makes you feel better.

Please enlighten me.

 

[Savant]

Please enlighten me.

Well we can start with the fact that Wenger spent 22 years at Arsenal and, basically was the entire club. There is a reason he never wanted to leave, he was in that clubs roots.

Pochettino is going into year 3 (or year 4) and has already managed as many teams has Wenger has in his entire career. It's pretty naive to think that it's impossible he would consider leaving based on some platitudes.

Also, at the time when Madrid wanted to get Wenger out of Arsenal, the Gunners had a MUCH higher profile than Tottenham have ever held.

So it's a dumb comparison.