Player Discussion Leon Draisaitl's next contract

[backhandsauce]

Can get extended July 1st...

What do you think/are comfortable with him getting on a deal?

Obviously we all hope he stays and I often wonder if he and McDavid have a handshake agreement between the two of them to stay put as it seems they and their partners are great friends.

12.5x8?

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[oXo Cube]

Might be a hot take, but I'm paying any price. Cheaper the better obviously but I'd rather have Draisaitl at 15M per year than needing to try and solve the problem of replacing his impact on the roster.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Might be a hot take, but I'm paying any price. Cheaper the better obviously but I'd rather have Draisaitl at 15M per year than needing to try and solve the problem of replacing his impact on the roster.

This, just pay that man his money. He's amazing.

 

[Canovin]

Nylander type money. ~11.5M. Let's hope Draisaitl has been making $$ from Puma

 

[soothsayer]

Nylander type money. ~11.5M. Let's hope Draisaitl has been making $$ from Puma

If Nylander gets that absurd 11.5 number, then Draisaitl probably should get 13.

 

[Mr Positive]

Nylander type money. ~11.5M. Let's hope Draisaitl has been making $$ from Puma

Draisaitl is worth more than Nylander. You may be right but that would be a gift to the team

 

[Da McBomb]

After seeing Matthews and others do better on shorter term deals... I wonder if McDavid and Drai are looking for the same shorter 4-5 year term deals in their next contracts. Although they will be into their 30's by the time their 3rd contract expires and on the decline in their careers... so they may not get as much then.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I think there will be half a dozen threads like this before it becomes time. I think too much uncertainty exists, of all kinds to really speculate right now. A lot for instance could be impacted by what takes place this spring.

 

[Oilers88]

Might be a hot take, but I'm paying any price. Cheaper the better obviously but I'd rather have Draisaitl at 15M per year than needing to try and solve the problem of replacing his impact on the roster.

Just to add to this, I don't see any scenario in which we lose Draisaitl but still keep McDavid. Keeping the two together is the single biggest draw for both of them to stay. If we lose those two it would mark the start of another decade of darkness. We need to pay what it costs to keep both and adjust the rest of the roster accordingly.

 

[Canovin]

Draisaitl is worth more than Nylander. You may be right but that would be a gift to the team

RNH and Hyman to a lesser extent Kane started the sweet deal trend and I see Draisaitl and McDavid following

 

[Canovin]

After seeing Matthews and others do better on shorter term deals... I wonder if McDavid and Drai are looking for the same shorter 4-5 year term deals in their next contracts. Although they will be into their 30's by the time their 3rd contract expires and on the decline in their careers... so they may not get as much then.

They would make less if they took short term deals. Drai and McDavid would be like 32 years old. They're not getting 15M at 32-33 years old

 

[Mr Positive]

RNH and Hyman to a lesser extent Kane started the sweet deal trend and I see Draisaitl and McDavid following

Those guys signed for term though, basically retirement contracts. I'd expect even an 8 year deal on Drai to deliver elite play every year whereas Nuge and Hyman carry risk.

I could see McDavid and Draisaitl taking a bit less just to play with each other. But even 13 million would be leaving money on the table

 

[Da McBomb]

They would make less if they took short term deals. Drai and McDavid would be like 32 years old. They're not getting 15M at 32-33 years old

So then you see them signing the maximum 8 year deals again?

 

[Canovin]

So then you see them signing the maximum 8 year deals again?

Yes it's safer retirement money. They can always be traded if they're not happy here

Those guys signed for term though, basically retirement contracts. I'd expect even an 8 year deal on Drai to deliver elite play every year whereas Nuge and Hyman carry risk.

I could see McDavid and Draisaitl taking a bit less just to play with each other. But even 13 million would be leaving money on the table

I never viewed 13M which is 77% of the max as a discount. No team has won the cup with players taking that much

 

[oXo Cube]

So then you see them signing the maximum 8 year deals again?

McDavid can do whatever he wants, but given that all he needs to do to get a max contract is ask for it signing for fewer than the maximum number of years seems a bit silly.

Draisaitl signing a 5 year deal would be pretty risky. Pretty good chance his play is falling or has fallen off by the end of that contract and even if it hasn't being 5 years older will only make getting a team to commit another huge deal to him more difficult.

Because Toronto's first extension for Matthews didn't buy any UFA seasons, he will only be 30 when his new extension expires instead of 33-34. huge difference.

 

[Mr Positive]

Yes it's safer retirement money. They can always be traded if they're not happy here


I never viewed 13M which is 77% of the max as a discount. No team has won the cup with players taking that much

Between now and when the next deal kicks in, the cap will have grown by 6 million. It would definitely be less than the 12.5 than McDavid is now in terms of cap percentage when the cap was in the 70s

 

[alphahelix]

With the terrible cap management we have, somebodies going to have to take a discount to keep the band together. Hopefully they are all happy with their Hundreds of millions of dollars and don’t need to squeeze us past the breaking point. Its pretty much our only hope at this point.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

At the risk of overpaying for too long. I want McDavid and Draisaitl to play together and retire together as Oiler Legends, and ONLY Oilers the whole way.

 

[bellagiobob]

Those guys signed for term though, basically retirement contracts. I'd expect even an 8 year deal on Drai to deliver elite play every year whereas Nuge and Hyman carry risk.

I could see McDavid and Draisaitl taking a bit less just to play with each other. But even 13 million would be leaving money on the table

I think Drai offers the same or even more risk than those two. RNH signed his deal at the age of 28, is an effortless skater and doesn’t play a real physical game, so I think he has the best chance of delivering elite play into the latter years of his deal than the other two would. Hyman signed his deal at the age of 29, but for one less year, and we knew at the time that the risk of his latter years being a bit risky was possible. Drai will be 30 in the year his new contract kicks in, has to work his ass off skating wise due to his body type, and takes a beating out there. I could see his contract aging the worst of the three by the end, due to his age and style of play.

 

[Coffey]

Well I really hope Holland isn't calling the shots

 

[Canovin]

Between now and when the next deal kicks in, the cap will have grown by 6 million. It would definitely be less than the 12.5 than McDavid is now in terms of cap percentage when the cap was in the 70s

Will have grown? McDavid contract kicked in 2018-19 when the cap was 79.5M. 6 years into his contract, it's at 83.5M today lol. We gotta stop thinking the cap will grow significantly lol

 

[Fourier]

My guess would be 8 years $13M followed by McDavid 8 years at $14M if they both sign. That would mean the Oilers top 4 forwards would be signed for less than $38M. TO's big 4 might well be at $47M.

Will have grown? McDavid contract kicked in 2018-19 when the cap was 79.5M. 6 years into his contract, it's at 83.5M today lol. We gotta stop thinking the cap will grow significantly lol

Unless there is another pandemic like event the cap will grow. With current revenues the cap could easily be at $95M if it was not for the escrow recovery rules. That is behind the league now.

As of right now the cap is projected to be at $92M but my guess is that this is low.

 

[9GWG9]

Preference: 12Mil x 8 seems about right. All the money upfront.

What will happen: Whatever it takes to keep him so we have a shot at keeping the kid. Is there a minimum amount of players that need to be iced? We can revolutionize the game and run 3 lines.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

13x8

 

[McShogun99]

Whatever he wants x 8. Let the man retire as a lifelong Oiler.