yababy
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Value of: Leon Draisaitl
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That's not Alzner's caphit, that's his salary.
Caphit is $4.65. Meaning he'll be even more tradable from year 4-5.
Gallagher, for what he brings to a team, with that contract...there's no doubt in my mind he's tradable without sending any salaries back. No doubt.
His numbers without McDavid are closer to a 60 point player ... I don't think teams want to take the risk of a $9 per+ on that. With McDavid sure, he's a 75+ point player, but Galchenyuk is probably also a 70+ point player next to McDavid so are a good number of other players. The whole thing doesn't work unless you have a Connor McDavid to begin with.
Fair point. I think it meets the Oilers needs fairly well.
What if it was Stone + Brassard + 1st.
That gives you the first line RW and a second line center at reasonable $$$.
Can also throw in Wideman as a bottom pairing offensive minded RD.
I see posters calling for +$9M contracts, and I can't see it. He's a great young player, and a big-bodied playmaking centre, but his play has come with asterisks, playing with Hall and McDavid. Had a great playoffs without McDavid, but the best defenders were deployed against McDavid.
What team would offer a contract that Edmonton wouldn't match?
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Trouble with that one is it doesn't provide any cap savings and we're better off with Drai.
Brassard at 5M and Stone at 3.5M, you're getting two players for the price of one Draisaitl who should be in the $7-$10M range. Stone being restricted for the next two seasons help keeps the cap hit down.
Even when Stone is unrestricted in two years and needs to be re signed, Brassard's contract is up. You can probably re sign Stone in the $5-6M range and see if Brassard is willing to take less money or let him walk and hopefully have one of your prospects over take his spot.
If those cap savings aren't enough, Colin White is maybe what you're looking for. He's probably ready to play second or third line minutes at center this coming season, but is unproven.
I'd assume Oilers fans would want more. Pageau might be a compromise for both sides. He's a fan favorite in Ottawa and I'd hate to give him up, but he can slide in at that 2C/3C role at a more reasonable cost than Brassard since he's an RFA with less offensive production.
Stone Pageau 1st for Leon in that case.
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It's not like Patrick Maroon is Einstein out there, he's rode McDavid's coat tails to 27 goals. Just have to get open and tap the puck into the (what is usually a gaping open) net.
Problem is that Edmonton doesn't need to move Draisaitl, and doesn't really need what is being offered.
If Edmonton were looking to move Draisaitl, it would likely be a 1-for-1 deal, and Ottawa doesn't have a player that I think that they would be willing to move in a 1-for-1 deal.
What if Montreal is prepared to offer $10M times 7 years, but has a trade proposal as an alternative:
Galchenyuk
Gallagher
Byron
Lindgren
Jerabek
2nd 2018
Draisatl
Fayne (cap dump)
4th 2018
7th 2018
5th 2019
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Edmonton says no. Matches the offer sheet. Trades Draisaitl.
I think Montreal is better off focusing on Duchene via trade
If a team matches the offer sheet, they cannot trade the player for one full year.
Perhaps you could suggest tweaking of my hypothetical trade offer?
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Montreal doesn't have the pieces.
Top end talent there are 30+.
Much better option elsewhere. Canadiens are in deep doodoo for a long time
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So, either Edmonton matches a 7 x $10M offer sheet or you think that with 4 first round draft picks, you can do better than
Galchenyuk
Gallagher
Byron
Lindgren
Two guys who have scored 20 and one who has scored 30, just in the past two seasons, plus the Habs' best goalie prospect who is already near the NHL. So for about the same $10M or so, you have about 70 goals there and a great cheap backup for Talbot.
History has shown that late first round picks (they should be between 21st and 31st) only become good NHL players about 35% of the time.
Regardless of my opinion (the package is better than the four 1sts), you have not addressed whether YOU really think four firsts is better than the package I put together, or whether you would be prepared to match 7 x $10M.
Instead you made a statement that you would match and then trade, which is not allowed for at least 1 year, and when corrected, chose to ignore dealing with your error and how it affected your previous attempt to brush off the problem, by trying a new brushoff, dissing Montreal's pieces and future.
I'm hoping you will address the questions being raised, I'm genuinely interested in your view.
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Oilers are going to want a young effective centre coming back. Galchenyuk is young, but not effective. Essentially a LW which Edm does not need.
From PHIL something that starts with Couturier plus maybe one of the young D stars
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That's a tempting offer, but the problem is Emonton needs Draistl against teams like Anaheim and San Jose in the playoffs. Montreal should focus their sights elsewhere, why risk messing up your team for a player who would screw their cap up without really improving the team.
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True, but Maroon isn't a 70 point player. And Maroon has a springily good knack for getting to the net and finding open areas.
I don't really understand why the Habs don't just commit to Galchenyuk at C. Like seriously try it for a year and see how it goes.
The ask would rightfully involve Provorov, and I wouldn't be ok with that.
Sanheim, Couturier, and Blues 1st, whenever we get it. About as high as I'd feel comfortable going.
