I agree its a great problem to have ,somebody is getting traded ,most likely jvr ,bozak or jake gardiner ,since jake will lkley not accept the fact he ll not get a penny more than zaitsev ...let the trades begin
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I agree its a great problem to have ,somebody is getting traded ,most likely jvr ,bozak or jake gardiner ,since jake will lkley not accept the fact he ll not get a penny more than zaitsev ...let the trades begin
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His agent didn't fight for more money saying how Hyman is barely an NHLer yet he is getting paid more?
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You feel Hyman got more because he has a better Agent?
Sounds like you have a very low opinion of the Leaf negotiators.
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The problem is some fans are smarter, wiser, know more about hockey, have more experience, and know more about winning then Brendan Shanahan, Lou Lamoriello, Kyle Dubas, Mark Hunter, Brandon Pridham, etc. I would fire them all and hire Wonder Dan personally.
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Hyman, Zach LW NHL 25 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,500,000 $2,500,000
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Brown, Connor RW NHL 23 $2,100,000 $2,100,000 $2,100,000
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Connor is making more than Zach the next 2 seasons, but then of course UFA years come into play.
If things continue to progress as they should Connor will be making more than Zach in 4 years.
If Brown is that much more of a talent than Hyman, the difference could be substantial.
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Brown, Connor RW NHL 23 $2,100,000 $2,100,000 $2,100,000
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Connor is making more than Zach the next 2 seasons, but then of course UFA years come into play.
If things continue to progress as they should Connor will be making more than Zach in 4 years.
If Brown is that much more of a talent than Hyman, the difference could be substantial.
Hyman makes $150,000 more than Brown. After taxes (depending on size/location of housing etc) they take home roughly the same amount.
How is that the narrative around this signing, rather than the Leafs signing a player who scored 20 goals from the shutdown line, and is only 23.
Ya'll need to learn to be happy
How is that the narrative around this signing, rather than the Leafs signing a player who scored 20 goals from the shutdown line, and is only 23.
Ya'll need to learn to be happy
My prediction was 6 years at 3M AAV. So 3 years at 2.1M sounds about right.
I literally have 0 concerns when it comes to this management team and cap management. Like, some people were freaking out about the third year on Marleau's contract, when it's clear he will be traded, or develop an allergy
The only bad contract is Matt Martin. Even then, it's mainly because it was 2 seasons too long, the cap, while ideally was lower, is still fine.
I literally have 0 concerns when it comes to this management team and cap management. Like, some people were freaking out about the third year on Marleau's contract, when it's clear he will be traded, or develop an allergy
The only bad contract is Matt Martin. Even then, it's mainly because it was 2 seasons too long, the cap, while ideally was lower, is still fine.
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who cares about buying into Hyman's ufa years ? 4th line energy players like him scramble to get even a 2 year deal near the league min every off season
Hyman got the deal he did because Babcock loves hard working untalented players for some reason and pushed to have him overpaid .
Brown's deal is fair for both sides with maybe the team getting a slight win due to getting the third year . However if compared to what Hyman signed for he did have to settle for less .
I think this will be Hyman's best ever contract in his career, he is a 4th liner and look how people complain about Matt Martin's contract while Hyman is younger and faster they have pretty much the same skillset. So when Hyman settles into his natural role hopefully he will be paid appropriately.
NB Hyman's best ever contract as a % of cap he may earn more $$ per yr in 10 years say if he is still in the league but the cap would have to be higher for that
To be fair Hyman is only making about $1/HF post about him per year. This of course includes threads that are not about him.
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his father/agent/coach Mr babcock got him a great deal $1 per post is a great contract
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I agree but i'll add regardless of % of cap he'll never get paid more than he does now .
I'll also add if Babs wasn't our coach and if we went into the season without making any trades he'd be hard pressed to make the team with the amount of wingers we have now .
Marner - Nylander - Marleau - JVR - Brown - Komo - Martin - Levio - Sosh - Kap - Hyman , that's 11 wingers fighting for 8 spots and to be the 13th frwd .
I take him over Martin, Leivo and sosh pretty easily. Maybe even in place of komo if there was a decent trade return for him. Sosh I think will go down and unless a crazy amount of injuries happen I don't think we see him again. Also add aaltonen to that list he can play C but unless it is Moore specifically that is injured Nylander should be cover for the other 3 C's.
Why are people whining about Hyman in this thread. He was overpaid by .5 ish. Brown was underpaid by .5 ish. The cap is fine. Who cares who got what?
Sure Hyman at 1.5/1.6 would have been my preference. But brown should have got 2.6-2.8 so it works out the same from a cap perspective
Sure Hyman at 1.5/1.6 would have been my preference. But brown should have got 2.6-2.8 so it works out the same from a cap perspective
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Martin - fills a void on our soft lineup
Levio - bigger , much more talented but until he gets a legit chance we don't know what he'll be
Sosh - similar player to Hyman in his energy , smaller but more talented and grittier
but even if you take him over these 3 that leaves him as our 8th winger , 9th winger/13frw if Altonen shows better at camp
8th winger is what he is, a 4th liner. Im not expecting much out of Aaltonen in fact if he doesn't make the leafs I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back the the KHL
What a steal. Brown deserves more and will become an extremely important part of the core moving forward. Love this player and this contract
With how annoying all the Hyman hate is it just makes it so much much more amusing when things happen that don't fit into many posters oversimplistic view of player value and roles.
This is a fair signing and so was Hyman IMO.
This is a fair signing and so was Hyman IMO.
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we agree he's nothing more than a 4th liner but the question is who do we want as the 8th winger ?
Levio - i believe Hyman's better suited in that role than Levio but i'd still rather give Levio the spot since he does have upside to maybe become a middle 6 winger if given a chance .
Sosh - i have no problem with him but i don't see a future for him here with the mount of wingers we have
Martin - won't kill penalties like Hyman but we have plenty of players who can , he works hard and adds the toughness we need so i'd give him the last wing spot for now
which leaves Hyman or Levio as our 13th forward and i'd go with Levio because he has more upside
we can discuss this endlessly but the facts are as long as Babs is behind the bench Hyman will be playing somewhere in the top 9 , i'm just hoping that since he got him paid he won't feel the need to glue him to AM's hip every game
Leivo 6'2" 195lbs
Hyman 6'1" 205lbs
The Hyman hate is so strong that the laws of gravity have changed.
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