Dude, he has 17p in 26 games in Liiga. That would have been good even for a forward prospect.Still cant believe how terrible a pick this was. Would EASY drop out of the 1st in a 2016 redraft
And to think he went 5th only a year and a half ago
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Still cant believe how terrible a pick this was. Would EASY drop out of the 1st in a 2016 redraft
And to think he went 5th only a year and a half ago
Just stop. There is no way he falls out of the first round. Please just stop
FinPanda
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Who wants to walk with Elias?
Why do you even bother posting in this thread trashing OJ over and over. Everyone knows your stance dude. Please just stop.
Still cant believe how terrible a pick this was. Would EASY drop out of the 1st in a 2016 redraft
And to think he went 5th only a year and a half ago
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I really don't know either, even on bad nights he's light years above Forsström or Berger. His defensive game has been off but it still doesn't make sense to me why they're scratching him.
Probably to send a message. If you know a player can be better but is making errors it's probably due to lack of effort. Coach could just want to let Juolevi know he expects more out of him if he is struggling a bit.
Did you watch him these last few games? Curious to know what you mean when you say his defensive game has struggled. Getting beat one on one, bad pinches, being out of position? Just curious
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I haven't seen every game but he seems kinda... lost. I sometimes get flashbacks from his play in the Canucks camp last fall. It's like his mind is not there. As for scratching him, I get that you might want to send a message to him but his team is battling for playoffs home ice advantage, maybe just give him less ice time instead, rather than play guys who are much worse than him.
Hockeyisl1fe
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I agree with the others, that he hasn’t been as bad as being the healthy scratch would make you think. But sure, his level of play has gone worse than it was for the start of the season. He seems like really not being in the game completely. I wonder if there is again some problems with his attitude?
He has shown in the past very bad signs of being a whiny primadonna, and honestly I have to say that many interviews that I saw him in during the last two years just seriously made me cringe. He seemed so entitled and full of himself, that it was easy to see that he would get into trouble with some coaches.
Although I have to emphasize that this is now purely my own speculation, and I have no real knowledge of what is going on with him and TPS at the moment. Just also wondering that how really he wouldn’t fit into the team even with the way he has been playing lately. The team has clearly worse defencemen than him. In my opinion he should be in the 2nd or 3rd pair at the moment, unless there is some serious attitude problem.
rune74
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This should answer the questions before we go off the deep end.
More from Salo: "He has had a little tougher time after the World Junior's. We decided to scratch him, he should be back in the lineup tomorrow."
More from Salo: "He has had a little tougher time after the World Junior's. We decided to scratch him, he should be back in the lineup tomorrow."
eviohh26
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This kid is going to hate his life when he gets to Vancouver. Our fans suck. Because of his draft position he will always be compared to Tkachuk. Every mistake he makes early on i feel our fan base is going to ride him hard. I wish well for him. I still think he has all the tools . Just needs some time.
lawrence
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news to me. the interviews from what we've seen of him in Vancouver is the opposite from what your describing. Maybe he hates the Finnish leauge? who knows.
Son of Petter
Who wants to walk with Elias?
I’m not talking about any interviews from the time that he has played in Liiga, which has been only this season, and he has been OK in those interviews. But those really bad ones were from the different previous season’s when he was playing for the Finnish national junior’s teams.
Oh, and he was really especially terrible as the captain of the Finnish 2016-2017 WJC team, which scandalously had to play in the relegation round. He practically started a riot against the coach in the middle of the tournament and the coach was after all sacked in the middle of the tournament. The way how he commented things then was also like a whiny spoiled brat. The coach was wrong for the team generally, but you still don’t do what he did in the middle of the tournament. He was like a quitter before all the games had been even played. Well, this also as an additional example. Not the only reason why I’m talking about his attitude problems from the past.
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lawrence
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Ironically I had just added something about how horribly things went when he was the Finnish WJC captain in 2016-2017.
Or he can just suck it up and try harder. There is that. Ya know the honest hard working approach
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Still cant believe how terrible a pick this was. Would EASY drop out of the 1st in a 2016 redraft
And to think he went 5th only a year and a half ago
Classic Mogilny To Bure
stampedingviking
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It'll be hell, they'll start before he's even played a game, just look at HFCanucks, the hate is real.
stampedingviking
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Perhaps the players asked him to represent them, you know, being captain and all?
Couldn't be that, though, just has to be one bad player with attitude.
Again, this is not news.
When he was drafted Benning said he liked his cockiness, that Joulevi has an attitude is a fact and not worth debating,
If you don't know about it, you haven't looked into it
Do you want proof?
Don't ask us, about 5 seconds of Googling will tell you all you need to know.
If he's doing what he did last fall then, all kidding aside, this is NOT GOOD
Last fall he was turn styled by career minor leaguers and training camp warm bodies, in all honesty, it was embarrassing. He didn't belong in camp. If not for his draft pedigree, he would have been sent home imeadietly.
If that's happening now, I would be very concerned.
If his parents are at all interested in this great opportunity life has afforded him at so young an age, I would respectfully suggest a "boot in the Netherlands" before it's too late.
Playing that way at draft + 2 1/2?
He can't afford + 3
Last fall he was turn styled by career minor leaguers and training camp warm bodies, in all honesty, it was embarrassing. He didn't belong in camp. If not for his draft pedigree, he would have been sent home imeadietly.
If that's happening now, I would be very concerned.
If his parents are at all interested in this great opportunity life has afforded him at so young an age, I would respectfully suggest a "boot in the Netherlands" before it's too late.
Playing that way at draft + 2 1/2?
He can't afford + 3
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