Konstantin Koltsov
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NHL speed w/o any any other tools at NHL level. You just can't teach that speed.
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He was very fast, but couldn't really keep up with his hands. But his final year he established himself as a solid 4th liner that drew penalties and had the uncanny ability to fall at random with no one near him. He wasn't bad with his hands in the sense that he'd flub shots like Adams, he just couldn't carry the puck up the ice worth ****.
A mediocre-average 4th liner.
A mediocre-average 4th liner.
Darth Vitale
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In a picture, Kolstov was...
The irony is I didn't see this thread until just now but I posted a joke about him 10 minutes ago in the other thread.
The ghosts of Penguin Past are starting to haunt us. That's how bad things have gotten around here.
Who's next, Rico FATa?
The irony is I didn't see this thread until just now but I posted a joke about him 10 minutes ago in the other thread.
The ghosts of Penguin Past are starting to haunt us. That's how bad things have gotten around here.
Who's next, Rico FATa?
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One of the fastest players to ever lace hockey skates. Reasonably difficult to knock down, despite the odd "fall over when nobody was near him" thing. Should have been a speed skater.
Still sort of surprised no team figured out some way to use that, even if nothing else worked at an NHL level. As has been mentioned, "two steps faster than a fast guy" isn't a thing you can teach.
He scored some preposterous goal in the K last year (year before?) where he took three casual strides from a dead stop and overtook two D that were 25 feet up the ice from him for a breakaway.
Still sort of surprised no team figured out some way to use that, even if nothing else worked at an NHL level. As has been mentioned, "two steps faster than a fast guy" isn't a thing you can teach.
He scored some preposterous goal in the K last year (year before?) where he took three casual strides from a dead stop and overtook two D that were 25 feet up the ice from him for a breakaway.
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No I am saying we have the NA version of him in the AHL right now, Matia Macaroni.
Koltsov didn't shy away from the rough stuff, but man he could not carry the puck up the ice if his life depended on it, what Koltsov didn't understand was gears, he needed to speed up at times, the guy was 0-100 every damn time and the worst balance I have ever seen. He was the fastest player I have ever seen and I've seen Gartner and Bure live. Koltsov at average speed was faster than 90% of the players, it would have allowed him to carry the puck and handle it better, but he insisted on just skating like a bat out of hell.
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In a picture, Kolstov was...
The irony is I didn't see this thread until just now but I posted a joke about him 10 minutes ago in the other thread.
The ghosts of Penguin Past are starting to haunt us. That's how bad things have gotten around here.
Who's next, Rico FATa?
Shane Endicott.
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Oh come on now, Downtown Robbie Brown had good hands, he wasn't as fast as Koltsov at any point though. Brown just...couldn't think the game at the NHL level outside of Mario's help, he still put up respectable numbers in Hartford.
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In a picture, Kolstov was...
The irony is I didn't see this thread until just now but I posted a joke about him 10 minutes ago in the other thread.
The ghosts of Penguin Past are starting to haunt us. That's how bad things have gotten around here.
Who's next, Rico FATa?
The face of our Generation X poster...
Ramzi Abid.
Big McLargehuge
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Probably the second fastest skater I've ever seen...too fast for his own good.
I seem to remember him being a pretty solid PKer and bottom six player, though...but that just may be the awfulness of the Pens at that time at those two things clouding my judgement.
I was a total fanboy when he was drafted because I was 12 and he was from a fairly random country.
I seem to remember him being a pretty solid PKer and bottom six player, though...but that just may be the awfulness of the Pens at that time at those two things clouding my judgement.
I was a total fanboy when he was drafted because I was 12 and he was from a fairly random country.
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No he was actually fairly decent in his last year, he finally found a role and committed to that brand of hockey, it was after that the Pens decided they were too good for their younger players and told them all to GTFO to make way for the Crosby & Malkin era with Shero, Shero didn't seem like he liked some of the older prospects he inherited.
I remember being a little annoyed that Surovy was gone after that year as well.
Konstantin Koltsov
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Point was that RB was a bad skater with good/great hands. KK was great skater with no hands. Put the two together, and we would have had Pavel Bure.
But yeah, even outside of his time with 66, and without checking, RB put up better NHL numbers than KK.
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One of Craig Patrick's seven consecutive first round busts. Koltsov had amazing speed but absolutely nothing else.
Koltsov became marginally better in his last year as a Pen but he was still a total non-factor outside of people going "Ooooh look he's fast... and now he's lost the puck". Clearing the bottom six of guys like Koltsov and Surovy (neither played another NHL game after leaving the Pens) and replacing them with real grit like Ruuttu and Roberts was one of the best things Shero ever did for this team.
Koltsov became marginally better in his last year as a Pen but he was still a total non-factor outside of people going "Ooooh look he's fast... and now he's lost the puck". Clearing the bottom six of guys like Koltsov and Surovy (neither played another NHL game after leaving the Pens) and replacing them with real grit like Ruuttu and Roberts was one of the best things Shero ever did for this team.
Allie Kitsune
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In a picture, Kolstov was...
The irony is I didn't see this thread until just now but I posted a joke about him 10 minutes ago in the other thread.
The ghosts of Penguin Past are starting to haunt us. That's how bad things have gotten around here.
Who's next, Rico FATa?
We're not truly haunted until people start pining for the likes of Drake Berehowsky, Andre Roy, and Eric Boguniecki.
#1GuinFan
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Steve MCKENNA????
On topic with the thread, I really wanted to like Koltsov, his speed/skating was something special, but what was between his ears and the rocks he had for hands was unfortunate. I seem to recall he did do some PK'ing for us during his last season here. I too was surprised nobody picked him up afterwards to try and mold him into a forechecking bottom 6'er.
Ugene Magic
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He was too fast for his brain, eh...eh?
I just want to say this thread was not what I was expecting when I got home.
