King Rinne for Vezina

maplepred

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Pekka officially has 299 wins as of last night in his career. I really hope saros plays tonight because I would love to see number 300 come at home!

Isn’t it amazing Rinne will join the 300 win club?? He is such a great goalie. He will finish this season in the top 30 all time for wins. He is also 2 shutouts away from 50! Potentially two big milestones this season.

Is it all but guaranteed he will be a hall of famer one day?? I’m sure a cup would help with that, a 2017-2018 cup ;)

Excited for big 300 Pekka!!
 

Scoresberg

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HOF recognition depends on how he ends his career, how many seasons he still plays. A Cup would get him a lot closer.

One thing is for sure, 35 will hang in the rafters of Bridgestone Arena one day and I sure as hell hope he'll stay in the organization one way or another.
 

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HOF is so difficult for goaltenders. They have to have individual hardware and cups. Being a compiler is okay for forwards, but it's not going to cut it for goalies. Unfortunate because a lot of great tenders will never be considered because of that, it's a position which is sorely under represented in the hall.
 

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I was looking at the stats for the 50 goalies with the most wins (Ken Dryden is #50 with 285), and I noticed that Pekka has quite a bit fewer games played than Kiprusoff or Lehtonen, who are the only two Finnish keepers with more wins than he has. So I did some quick arithmetic, and sorted by win %. Only 18 of the 50 have an all time win % over 50%. This is pretty cool:

Rk Name Born GP W win %
50 Ken Dryden 1947 397 258 65%
13 Marc-Andre Fleury 1984 720 395 55%
1 Martin Brodeur 1972 1266 691 55%
34 Pekka Rinne 1982 552 300 54%
8 Henrik Lundqvist 1982 794 428 54%
12 Chris Osgood 1972 744 401 54%
2 Patrick Roy 1965 1029 551 54%
14 Dominik Hašek 1965 735 389 53%
42 Jonathan Quick 1986 539 283 53%
7 Jacques Plante 1929 837 437 52%
17 Andy Moog 1960 713 372 52%
40 Carey Price 1987 552 285 52%
41 Tiny Thompson 1903 553 284 51%
26 Miikka Kiprusoff 1976 623 319 51%
21 Evgeni Nabokov 1975 697 353 51%
43 Marty Turco 1975 543 275 51%
3 Ed Belfour 1965 963 484 50%
19 Ryan Miller 1980 730 366 50%
15 Mike Vernon 1963 782 385 49%
35 Ron Hextall 1964 608 296 49%
28 Kari Lehtonen 1983 633 306 48%
30 Walter 'Turk' Broda 1914 629 304 48%
5 Curtis Joseph 1967 943 454 48%
9 Tony Esposito 1943 886 423 48%
27 Cam Ward 1984 656 312 48%
37 Ed Giacomin 1939 610 290 48%
18 Tom Barrasso 1965 777 369 47%
4 Roberto Luongo 1979 984 461 47%
11 Grant Fuhr 1962 868 403 46%
6 Terry Sawchuk 1929 971 445 46%
32 Mike Richter 1966 666 301 45%
10 Glenn Hall 1931 906 407 45%
29 Billy Smith 1950 679 305 45%
45 Bernie Parent 1945 608 271 45%
20 Rogie Vachon 1945 795 353 44%
36 Mike Liut 1956 663 293 44%
39 José Théodore 1976 648 286 44%
49 Jean-Sebastien Giguere 1977 597 262 44%
38 Dan Bouchard 1950 656 286 44%
33 Tomáš Vokoun 1976 700 300 43%
16 John Vanbiesbrouck 1963 882 374 42%
31 Olaf Kölzig 1970 719 303 42%
48 Felix Potvin 1971 635 266 42%
23 Nikolai Khabibulin 1973 799 333 42%
24 Harry Lumley 1926 803 330 41%
47 Don Beaupre 1961 666 268 40%
44 Kelly Hrudey 1961 677 271 40%
25 Sean Burke 1967 820 324 40%
22 Gump Worsley 1929 860 333 39%
46 Gilles Meloche 1950 788 270 34%
 
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I'm not sure if he makes it - someone like Quick will have a few cups and a Conn Smythe Trophy and when all is said and done on their careers may end up with about 50 to 100 more wins and I'm not sure if he makes it.
 

kassikotka

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Is it too early to say that Rinne is going to be one of the finalists for Vezina Trophy.
I would personally put Rinne just a little bit ahead of Vasilevskiy looking at the win/start ratio and also the I think one must consider the huge amount of goals that Tamba has made and that enabling huge amount of wins for Vasilevskiy for a bit free. Both have 7 shutouts right now. Rask has also played really well for couple last months and I would say Rinne, Vasilevskiy, Rask and Hellebuyck are at the moment the most sense making goalies for the trophy.
 

GoldOnGold

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Rinne:

.928 sv percentage
2.29 GAA

36 wins
49 games played
7 shutouts

Vasilevsky:

.925 sv percentage
2.44 GAA
39 wins
55 games played

7 shutouts

Rinne right now should have the edge in my opinion, but it seems like Vasilevsky has already been coronated by the press. Might turn out to be another Weber situation where we get snubbed.
 
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Sabre Toothed

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He is excellent. 2 more years then Saros and the V men going forward. At least that would be optimal
 
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Bjornar Moxnes

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Rinne:

.928 sv percentage
2.29 GAA

36 wins
49 games played
7 shutouts

Vasilevsky:

.925 sv percentage
2.44 GAA
39 wins
55 games played

7 shutouts

Rinne right now should have the edge in my opinion, but it seems like Vasilevsky has already been coronated by the press. Might turn out to be another Weber situation where we get snubbed.

Rinne has one of the best DSv% in the league. Hellebuyck who is actually a hindrance on his team's Sv% got nominated haha.
 

GoldOnGold

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Rinne has one of the best DSv% in the league. Hellebuyck who is actually a hindrance on his team's Sv% got nominated haha.

Rinne, from what I've seen and heard, has been an advanced stats stud this year. I don't think many people are going to factor that in though unfortunately.

Also, as I've seen you oftentimes say, advanced stats say our defense isn't actually all that good defensively. Although I believe we've shown good improvement ever since Ellis came back, which is a hopeful sign.
 
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Bjornar Moxnes

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Rinne, from what I've seen and heard, has been an advanced stats stud this year. I don't think many people are going to factor that in though unfortunately.

Also, as I've seen you oftentimes say, advanced stats say our defense isn't actually all that good defensively. Although I believe we've shown good improvement ever since Ellis came back, which is a hopeful sign.

Yup we were bottom 15 in suppression metrics until recently. Like wise the Blues were elite in that category but have been fading since their bad stretch, doesn't help Allen is a bad goalie lol. Jets are still the best defensive team as far as stats go in the Central, and Chicago is the worst (No surprise).
 

GoldOnGold

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Yup we were bottom 15 in suppression metrics until recently. Like wise the Blues were elite in that category but have been fading since their bad stretch, doesn't help Allen is a bad goalie lol. Jets are still the best defensive team as far as stats go in the Central, and Chicago is the worst (No surprise).

I think the Jets are going to be very tough in the playoffs for sure.

I know some people look down on advanced stats and don't worry about them, but I always like looking at them. Especially since last year a number of advanced stat guys predicted we had a good shot at beating Chicago while traditional pundits wouldn't give us the time of day.
 
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Bjornar Moxnes

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I think the Jets are going to be very tough in the playoffs for sure.

I know some people look down on advanced stats and don't worry about them, but I always like looking at them. Especially since last year a number of advanced stat guys predicted we had a good shot at beating Chicago while traditional pundits wouldn't give us the time of day.

Like wise if you actually watched Flames vs Ducks, Elliott singlehandedly lost the series for the Flames. I still don't think the Flames would have advanced, but the Flames were far better in every metrics and I guarantee you if Elliott was even average that series wouldn't have been a sweep.
 

King Weber

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Rinne:

.928 sv percentage
2.29 GAA

36 wins
49 games played
7 shutouts

Vasilevsky:

.925 sv percentage
2.44 GAA
39 wins
55 games played

7 shutouts

Rinne right now should have the edge in my opinion, but it seems like Vasilevsky has already been coronated by the press. Might turn out to be another Weber situation where we get snubbed.

I'd give shutouts to Rinne too. Same amount of shutouts as Vasilevsky in less games played.
 
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LCPreds

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There is nothing in the stat line above where any reasonable person could argue against Rinne. It’s basically prime for one of those polls where you remove the name and see who gets the most votes between player a and b.
 
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