Rumor: Kevin Hayes to St. Louis gaining steam - rumored to be 'huge' deal involving many players

[3074326]

If an awful player doesn't want to waive to come to my team, then I fully support him...cause of family and stuff

Just ribbing you a bit.

But in terms of family, if he kids are young, its not a big deal. If they aren't in school, he isn't not moving because of family. His oldest is like 4. It has nothing to do with family. That is a convenient excuse.

Are you serious?

Getting traded has a massive impact on the family. Like where they live. Or if they don’t all move, dad is gone more than half the year.

It absolutely has an impact on family even if the kid isn’t in school.

 

[Xerloris]

That's the sad part for players when they're part of a possible trade and they invoke their NTC. Fans may hold it against him if the trade doesn't end up going thru.

This is why Armstrong is notorious about no leaks ever. I had a bad feeling about this from the get go because of how public it was getting.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

Hearing Krug, 25 OA and 2024 2nd

Hayes(50% retained), Laughton, Sanheim

’Philly flips Krug to Boston

Highly doubtful.

That type of cap in and out simply doesn't work for the Blues.

 

[Mike Liut]

Hearing from who exactly. Also that is nearly 13 cap going to St. Louis and only 6.5 going out. Way too much money to Blues.

unless we are moving Scandella or Saad out.

 

[Forge]

Hearing from who exactly. Also that is nearly 13 cap going to St. Louis and only 6.5 going out. Way too much money to Blues.

Also, Boston doesn't have money to take on Krug. That means more retention from Philly in that deal. That's locking up multiple retention slots over multiple years.

Seems very unlikely

 

[thedjpd]

Also, Boston doesn't have money to take on Krug. That means more retention from Philly in that deal. That's locking up multiple retention slots over multiple years.

Seems very unlikely

Also doubt that package fetches Laughton alone. They will keep him in that case.

 

[Blanick]

unless we are moving Scandella or Saad out.

Has Saad been rumored to be on the move? Serious question, I haven't heard anything about Saad.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Has Saad been rumored to be on the move? Serious question, I haven't heard anything about Saad.

No he hasn't. He just wants Saad gone.

 

[Majorityof1]

Are you serious?

Getting traded has a massive impact on the family. Like where they live. Or if they don’t all move, dad is gone more than half the year.

It absolutely has an impact on family even if the kid isn’t in school.

When your kids are young, it has a far lesser impact than when they are older. Pre-school is easier than elementary school which is easier than middle school which is easier than high school. There are literal studies that show this. The psychological impact of moving for kids before school is minimal.

Sure its a pain in the butt to move for anyone. But its far easier when you oldest kid is 4 than if you have a 10 year old and a 15 year old.

 

[TheKingPin]

Hearing Krug, 25 OA and 2024 2nd

Hayes(50% retained), Laughton, Sanheim

’Philly flips Krug to Boston

Not enough coming back to the Flyers unless the flip of Krug is a lot. Laughton alone should be at least 1 + 2 as we have heard.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

Has Saad been rumored to be on the move? Serious question, I haven't heard anything about Saad.

No, there isn't anything we are aware of.

He fits the team well, and has an important role on the team. Don't see any reason he is moved, except for cap reasons.

If you are moving out both Saad and Krug, then I doubt bringing in Hayes and Sanheim constitutes that much progress. They would be down a top PP guy and an important two-way forward that can play up and down the lineup. When Barbie was dealt, it was assumed that Saad would be around for the long term.

 

[Lindberg]

I knew these would be the replies. In reality, it's really not that simple. Doesn't matter anyways as Blues look to be forcing him into a trade anyways.

Plenty of non wealthy people move with children. His wife likely stays at home with the children. Raising kids is a time consuming job but it's not some complicated solution to solve.

I think you're underestimating how much time people save when they have money.

Krug has every right not to waive a NTC or whatever but acting as if moving with kids is complicated is anything but the truth when you have the kind of money they do.

 

[Mike Liut]

Has Saad been rumored to be on the move? Serious question, I haven't heard anything about Saad.

no, he’s just somebody that could be moved if needed. Decent player, nothing special.

 

[Some Other Flame]

 

[bauer]

if logos could mate, the Flyers and Blues logos would make one sexy couple.

 

[bleedblue1223]

if logos could mate, the Flyers and Blues logos would make one sexy couple.

Of the Class of 67, the Blues and Flyers had similar logos, as well as Pens and Seals.

 

[HawksDub89]

I don’t see the upside in this for STL. To maybe make the playoffs? Maybe win a series?

This makes them marginally better. But not enough to be a Cup team.

 

[The Blunder Years]

I don’t see the upside in this for STL. To maybe make the playoffs? Maybe win a series?

This makes them marginally better. But not enough to be a Cup team.

They have a ton of veterans signed over the next few years. They probably want to add some more talent with this deal and try to make a run in the next three years. Then it’s time to retool.

 

[HawksDub89]

They have a ton of veterans signed over the next few years. They probably want to add some more talent with this deal and try to make a run in the next three years. Then it’s time to retool.

In theory I get it. But that’s not a cup roster, in my opinion.

Avs aren’t going anywhere, Dallas is a force right now. Maybe this pushes them past Minnesota? (Kinda doubt it)

I figured they’d sell off some vets and take a step back for a year or two. Guess not..

It’s hockey so obviously you never know.

 

[Xerloris]

I don’t see the upside in this for STL. To maybe make the playoffs? Maybe win a series?

This makes them marginally better. But not enough to be a Cup team.

Samheim over Krug is not a marginal move. It's a significant upgrade to one of our weakest positions.

 

[rumrokh]

I don’t see the upside in this for STL. To maybe make the playoffs? Maybe win a series?

This makes them marginally better. But not enough to be a Cup team.

Most teams in the league are not obviously "Cup teams." Their current core is too young to burn it down entirely and guarantee top picks by spending several seasons as a bottom 5 team. They're basically retooling around their 20-somethings (Thomas, Buchnevich, Kyrou) while the next wave of prospects arrives. Sanheim fits that age range if he is, indeed, part of the final deal.

 

[mercury]

Hearing Krug, 25 OA and 2024 2nd

Hayes(50% retained), Laughton, Sanheim

’Philly flips Krug to Boston

That is much worse for Philly than what was reported before. Those three players should bring much more back. Yesterday, it was Hayes (??% retained) and Sanheim for Krug (??% retained), late 2023 1st, and a prospect.

 

[BlueTacos]

Not enough coming back to the Flyers unless the flip of Krug is a lot. Laughton alone should be at least 1 + 2 as we have heard.

So a one time 40 pt player at 30 years old is worth a 1st and 2nd. In what world.

 

[HawksDub89]

I’m not saying it’s impossible. I guess I just don’t think this does anything other than maybe allow then to sneak back in the playoffs.

Worked for Florida I guess

 

[Mike Liut]

I’m not saying it’s impossible. I guess I just don’t think this does anything other than maybe allow then to sneak back in the playoffs.

Worked for Florida I guess

The Blues 4 lines will be as good as anybody’s, they just need to fix their LD