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Highly unlikely any team had Hutson rated higher than Beck. Beck is easily the better prospect but Hutson is a fun swing at 62.
Kent Hughes & Jeff Gorton General Discussion Thread - The Honeymoon Is Over
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Highly unlikely any team had Hutson rated higher than Beck. Beck is easily the better prospect but Hutson is a fun swing at 62.
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I’m far more worried about the choice of Slaf than I am about the trade.
I liked Romanov a lot but Dach has some great upside. That could turn out to be a huge steal and I’m okay taking that risk.
Not taking Wright though? That could really haunt us.
I liked Romanov a lot but Dach has some great upside. That could turn out to be a huge steal and I’m okay taking that risk.
Not taking Wright though? That could really haunt us.
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We'll get a top center next year. What we won't get next year, is a skilled 6'4'' powerforward winger.
Has been alot of far reaching drama
Very strange
Talked to a buddy of mine who is a bruins fan and he thinks Slaf and Dach are literally huge additions
Way too many highs and lows on HF boards these days
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Both Slaf and Dach come with huge risk.
But this year's draft was said to be not a sure thing at the tip and Romanov only has ai much upside. So the risk is what it is.
The important thing is we finish bottom of the league next year so we get more good prospects. The more high end prospects the less overall risk of not landing another star forward or two.
I’m a little torn. On the one hand, I like that they were active and took some gambles On the other hand , I am disappointed at how much input Lapointe apparently had - I really did not want any Bozovin holdovers in positions of making important decisions on draft picks. Speaking of draft picks, I’ve already gone on record as being against drafting undersized players as I find they almost never pan out, so I was somewhat disappointed to see then use some of the higher picks on them. As for the trade, if they were willing to trade Romanov, at that point, why not include him in part of a larger deal? I mean what would a package of Romanov+Anderson+26th pick+top prospect not named Guhle get you? Calgary’s Tkachuk?( just as an example) Just to say I think they could have made a bigger deal to get a better player than Dach. On a last note, I really hope to hear more news about new scouts being brought into the org.
The last management liked drafting projects who needed 3 years of dedicated development without waiting the 3 years or doing any real development. Drafting guys who need patience and a good environment and letting Lefebvre and Therrien destroy them.
Dach and Slaf will be projects and we’ll see how the team does. MSL will be a better teacher than any other recent habs coach. Not sure Houle is great but he’s definitely way better than Lefebvre. The habs actually have a skills coach now, too.
Were there any obvious passes? It’s similar to the Q players who just didn’t really fit the habs picks this year. Hard to say if it is an agenda or availability.
I worry they underrate 94 points in a draft year with iffy linemates and weird coaching. It certainly looks as though Hughes looked at the team and the prospects coming in and made the call that they have enough skill but they absolutely need a few more big guys who can play. It’s certainly possible that Dach and Slaf end up being more valuable to the team as second liners who don’t outscore Wright combined.
The career trajectories for these guys will define the narrative for the habs the next few years. If Dach and Slaf don’t work out the team will be bad and if Wright plays well it becomes a Bergevin arrogance over common sense thing.
What is very un-Bergevin is that Hughes is obviously looking at team needs and prospects to try to build something as opposed to just randomly acquiring pieces. He’s trying to get guys who will make existing assets work not just picking up more redundant players to complicate the coach’s life.
The career trajectories for these guys will define the narrative for the habs the next few years. If Dach and Slaf don’t work out the team will be bad and if Wright plays well it becomes a Bergevin arrogance over common sense thing.
What is very un-Bergevin is that Hughes is obviously looking at team needs and prospects to try to build something as opposed to just randomly acquiring pieces. He’s trying to get guys who will make existing assets work not just picking up more redundant players to complicate the coach’s life.
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IMO, Cooley seems to not like the spotlight.
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That's a fair deduction for a player who wants to play for the Coyotes lol
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Maybe not obvious but Grudinin still sitting there for awhile and they didn't take the shot was the most suspect.
Taking Slaf means that we have to finish bottom 8 next season to FINALLY pick a #1C. Obligated to. He’s only complimentary if we have a core worth talking about.
As for Dach, I don’t see it. Soft giant, not a goal scorer, cannot win a faceoff. I feel like he’s KK 2.0. I’ll cheer him on no worries and hope for being so damn wrong.
Everything hinges on 2023. I’ll concede that it would’ve been like that even with different choices. Tell you the truth I’m worried about our D. There’s not a true anchor yet. If they all hit their potential then we’ll have a comite type D like the Canes have, which is fine but it would take some luck in that department.
Absolutely agree.
They kept saying going into the draft, they spent a ton of time, on trying to figure out who will become the best player down the road with some development.............
There is a plan here, agree or not, they have a plan.......big kids, who can skate and will get their hands dirty....as you say no more filling holes in the lineup the way MB did.......it was useless.
I do think Wright will be a good NHL player, and was disappointed and surprised they went with Slaf.
That said, man they did this with using what information was available to them, and not just a feel or a hunch. I absolutely agree they have a ton of info on the kid, and are ready to put their eggs in that basket.
The one big thing that scares me, is we will have a better year upcoming, and our pick next year will not be as high in the lottery draft as we all hope. I guess that has the potential to be a good problem.
We will still struggle next year, without a real #1 goalie, and our D is still suspect......that said the offseason has just begun...........stay tuned.
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We don’t know this… and we’ll see if Slaf pans out. To me, you didn’t take risks with the first overall. I just hope the scouts knew what they were talking about.
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Not really. At worst he’s a 2nd line two way center which we could’ve used. Much better track record.
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The D has some great prospects. The rebuild was never going to be over in a year.
And we could always slide Dach to the wing. Roy and Kidney seem to be doing well. We do have some decent prospects in the system. At a minimum they could be used as trade currency.
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That's a crock of shit. Shane Wright could bust hard, his play was absolutely terrible this year. He got drafted Top 5 on the strength of his pre-2022 resume alone. If his progression really flatlined, it's not clear he's even gonna have a long NHL career. Plus, this "two-way" quality in Wright seems pretty overrated to me. His lackluster backchecking effort was called out. His track record, other than a tournament, is 2 years old already.
I'm all for being optimistic, but at least admit that this is what you are.
Wright has a single foundational attribute he can count on: His shot.
Slafkovsky: His size.
Those are the only two guarantees we have from these two players.
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I am so excited for next season......but I'm more excited for next draft......please finish bottom 5 and win the lottery 
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No schtick here. Is Wright really good defensively? Why do you believe that? A FLOOR of #2C in the NHL is an incredibly high expectation. Why would I expect a guy who kept falling in the eyes of scouts all over the league to have such a high floor? This doesn't make sense to me, sorry. If he dropped this year, he can continue to drop next year, until proven otherwise.
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In his PC a few days before the draft, Kent Hughes specifically talked about how he saw IQ as also knowing how to use the attributes you have. Then they picked Slafkovsky.
I don't doubt that Wright can read the play, but the choice of his larger strategy, as to how he should play the game in 2022, was questionable.
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