Kane legal drama in Buffalo IV (no hearsay, verifiable sources only)
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What you continuously fail to understand is that there is a wide swath of land between false allegations and a rape occurring. The Tumblr stats you spout off are lacking in credibility.
And it is the very definition of jumping to a conclusion.
Glacial
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While her view of the case may certainly be colored (and if she cannot remain objective covering a story, then the station should be allowed to have her recuse herself from it. It is sad that she was raped, but as someone in a journalistic role, journalistic standards are expected upon them), she's just one of their behind the scenes folk and far more than her there seem to have an agenda.
It's the Score. Quite a few of their before the mic & behind the mic people seem to have an agenda. News that looks bad for Kane is quickly mentioned and discussed at length, news that looks good for Kane or makes the case not seem so clear cut is ignored for as long as possible or mentioned in passing and not followed up on or discussed at length. Yesterday, even yesterday night, their updates included a news summary of the lawyer's press conference, but not the statements from the police or DA, which are essential in reporting on the lawyer's press conference. Their reporting has been so slanted, I'd wish CBS Radio would do an integrity investigation into the station and its personnel. It's disgusting. Report all the facts, statements, etc or stay away from the story completely, don't cherrypick the facts to present a slanted narrative. It feels more like a station or management policy than just a handful of people with an axe to grind (though some of their on-air personnel have tried to avoid discussing it and when they had to, you could hear discomfort in their voice about even having to discuss it).
Reasons to hope Kane is innocent.
1. It would presumably mean that no sexual assault took place.
2. We retain our star player.
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94858483. Ax to grind with Julie DiCaro.
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From the main board "Paraphrasing this report as I've just watched it live.
This is all according to a couple law experts the news interviewed, and ate their observations. None of it is 100% guaranteed, but obviously they were comfortable enough to go on tv and make these observations.
It is doubtful that bag presented was ever used. It may have been an extra bag, prepped for potential use or one used temporally. There are no markings indicating there was ever a chain of command. There is no tape on the bag that would seal it and be initialed. It was not what the rape kit was in, that would be in a box. It's possible that clothing was returned to the complainant in that bag.
They kind of acknowledged that if it had a chain of command and was put into a different container, that it would be put in with that article of evidence to continue the chain of command.
The last part went quick, so if I missed a point I apologize."
If that report is accurate (and obviously it's not confirmed yet), it goes a good way towards confirming some of my suspicions about the bag. The DA's press conference tomorrow is going to be very interesting.
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Glacial
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I couldn't say it better but had a similar view on this matter. It's not a modern thing though. In fact, it looks very medieval or like the witch hunts of earlier times. Just the mere accusation or suspicion is enough proof to convict them in the eyes of many sadly. Likewise with those who cast aspersions on the accuser out of knee-jerk defense of Kane, either believing he could never be guilty of such a thing, or believing as a celebrity, he should be entitled to being above the law. It's hard to tell who's been the ugly, criminal one in this actual case with certainty but it's not too early to tell the public on both extremes of the argument have been repugnant, as has media coverage of it that has selectively reported on the matter.
Glacial
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http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/loca...ess-evidence-tampering-in-kane-case/72751410/
Here is a video talking about the tweet I mentioned earlier. It has information of a former prosecutor who said that rape kits do not go in bags (ever), they come in boxes. She said it is possible it may have had physical evidence or clothing but that, in her opinion, it most likely never contained evidence because it doesn't have any initials on it- she said who ever collects evidence dates it and puts there initials on it.
Doesn't definitively prove anything. But we shall see what happens next.
Here is a video talking about the tweet I mentioned earlier. It has information of a former prosecutor who said that rape kits do not go in bags (ever), they come in boxes. She said it is possible it may have had physical evidence or clothing but that, in her opinion, it most likely never contained evidence because it doesn't have any initials on it- she said who ever collects evidence dates it and puts there initials on it.
Doesn't definitively prove anything. But we shall see what happens next.
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Based on that story, and the tweets from Julie DiCarlo, I wonder if the alleged victim's legal team is trying to get the underwear (which supposedly contains a "mixture of semen") thrown out. Hopefully, if it wasn't actually tampered with there will be enough evidence to prove that (either through improper markings/mismatched bar codes/ etc.)
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Glacial
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In how many rape cases does the victim's lawyer want the rape kit & underwear evidence thrown out?
Lawyer of accuser having another press conference tonight at 845, so I'm thinking 745 central
Scott Levin @ScottLevinWGRZ 6m6 minutes ago
Lawyers for #PatrickKane accuser are holding another press conference at 8;45 tonight regarding the alleged evidence bag. @WGRZ
Scott Levin @ScottLevinWGRZ 6m6 minutes ago
Lawyers for #PatrickKane accuser are holding another press conference at 8;45 tonight regarding the alleged evidence bag. @WGRZ
....good point. I'd guess not many. I saw on twitter that DiCarlo had said that neither lawyer had seen the underwear in question. It does seem like, based on her tweeted information, her source in this is someone tied to the alleged victim's attorneys.
Okay and now accuser's attorney is holding ANOTHER press conference tonight. WTH is going on.
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Not My reason but yeah she is a hater if there ever was one.
My reason is I am a Hawk fan. I do NOT think for a minute he raped anyone.
I do hope kane stops acting like white trash but its his right to live his life his way... Which of you out there has never done stupid things? I know most of us slow down when we get a job and hit our twenties but kaner is kaner...
At this point this just seems so FAKE to me. NO WAY kane did anything but get drunk and stupid...
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I am guessing all the "chain of command" references probably were "chain of custody" and that main board poster typed it wrong.
Would be bananas if they just were trying to pass off a bag that was the packaging for the return of clothes or something as evidence tampering.
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you aren't picking examples where people have been investigated, but not arrested. everyone you are listing WAS ARRESTED and Charged. idk whats so hard to understand.
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