JVR-Bozak-Marner or JVR-Bozak-Brown ?

[WTFMAN99]

No way of easing into this, i'm too blunt. The line sucks defensively, it's probably one of the best offensive 3rd lines in the game but gives up way too much defensively and makes games a bit closer then they need to be some nights.

Something may be solved by simply trading only 1 of JVR or Bozak but I think enough is enough for me in regards to these guys. I would prefer to move JVR as Bozak is fine as a 3C and let's us keep Nylander with Matthews this year.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Fehr/Leivo

Thoughts?

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[MJ65]

They simply need to be better defensively - I would let Marleau on Kadri's line and move either Brown or KK to Bozak's line

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Quite frankly, all of the lines sucked defensively yesterday. Pinning it squarely on that line may be a slight hot take.

As for the two players, I think if there was a trade available that would have improved the team for 17/18 this past offseason for either, it would have been executed.

 

[ToneDog]

2 Win and no losses. Yup the TyBo line needs to be more defensively responsible but no need to panic just yet.

 

[Mess]

Yup, no question the trio is frustrating to watch at times due to their defensive play, or lack there of.....

 

[ShaneFalco]

If they aren't going to trade JVR, then it's time to split up JVR and Bozak
This is nothing new - they aren't going to change

 

[ToneDog]

Quite frankly, all of the lines sucked defensively yesterday. Pinning it squarely on that line may be a slight hot take.

As for the two players, I think if there was a trade available that would have improved the team for 17/18 this past offseason for either, it would have been executed.

We agree on this one. BTW JT had 2 goals (1 SHG) and an assist last night

 

[ULF_55]

No way of easing into this, i'm too blunt. The line sucks defensively, it's probably one of the best offensive 3rd lines in the game but gives up way too much defensively and makes games a bit closer then they need to be some nights.

Something may be solved by simply trading only 1 of JVR or Bozak but I think enough is enough for me in regards to these guys. I would prefer to move JVR as Bozak is fine as a 3C and let's us keep Nylander with Matthews this year.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Fehr/Leivo

Thoughts?

Marner looked overwhelmed defensively last night.
He needs to be better suppored in the d-zone.
van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Komarov

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

We agree on this one. BTW JT had 2 goals (1 SHG) and an assist last night

Lol he is good. Be careful what you wish for with the point totals though. The higher they are, the more expensive the AAV will be.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Marner looked overwhelmed defensively last night.
He needs to be better suppored in the d-zone.
van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Komarov

That leaves you with no shut-down line.

 

[WilliamNylander]

No way to really fix this. If you break them up, whatever line they end up on will suck defensively too.

We are stuck with it until we move JVR and/or Bozak. Just have to try and get them the easiest matchups especially when we have last change.

 

[MJ65]

As a veteran JVR need to take more responsibility - so night, he is just a passenger

Splitting Bozak and JVR and putting them on any other line is a scary thought

 

[ToneDog]

Lol he is good. Be careful what you wish for with the point totals though. The higher they are, the more expensive the AAV will be.

Very true and also true for our boys in blue and white. Nice problem to have

 

[Advanced stats]

Trade JVR
Add Kasperi
Problem solved

 

[ULF_55]

That leaves you with no shut-down line.

You don't think Kadri and Komarov are strong enough defensively? Consensus is they are two of the best defenders in the league. Right?

 

[WTFMAN99]

2 Win and no losses. Yup the TyBo line needs to be more defensively responsible but no need to panic just yet.

Looking at just wins and losses is short sighted, it can lead to some L's later.

Marner looked overwhelmed defensively last night.
He needs to be better suppored in the d-zone.
van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Komarov

JVR and Bozak flew the zone a few times last night which resulted in a couple of goals against.

I think moving JVR to that line removes it's shut down capabilities.

 

[MJ65]

Marner looked overwhelmed defensively last night.
He needs to be better suppored in the d-zone.
van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Komarov

I would rather keep Kadri - Kmoarov - Marleau - there seem to be a good chemistry between Kadri and Marleau

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

As long as they do what they are paid to do, which is score I'm good.

The Patriots in the NFL have a saying "Do your job.' they don't ask guys to do anything they can't do.

That line job is to score that's why they are together,to provide offense and they do that.

They do their job, they are NEVER going to be great defensively that's not going to happen

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

You don't think Kadri and Komarov are strong enough defensively? Consensus is they are two of the best defenders in the league. Right?

I try not to operate on concensus. It tends to be less accurate than actual quant/qual opinion. Especially in hockey.

 

[ToneDog]

Looking at just wins and losses is short sighted, it can lead to some L's later.



JVR and Bozak flew the zone a few times last night which resulted in a couple of goals against.

I think moving JVR to that line removes it's shut down capabilities.

Pretty sure Babs isn't going to be short sighted. Just don't think we need to panic just yet.

Also Marner failed to move the puck out of our zone a couple of times. Not always JVR's fault.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Quite frankly, all of the lines sucked defensively yesterday. Pinning it squarely on that line may be a slight hot take.

True! But we've seen this movie before with JVR and Bozak. Far too many times for my liking.
I sitll think JVR gets moved at some point this season, playoffs or no playoffs

 

[613Leafer]

JVR and Bozak have been garbage defensively for us for years and years, shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. At least now they get more sheltered minutes.

 

[Nithoniniel]

You can't break them up without taking apart our matchup line and/or changing our high-flying first line. We'll just have to endure the double-edged nature of their game for now.

 

[PromisedLand]

You don't think Kadri and Komarov are strong enough defensively? Consensus is they are two of the best defenders in the league. Right?

It amazes me you still find ways to take a shot at Kadri but protect your boy Bozak while bozo's defense is as a JOKE!

Still blaming Kessel eh?

 

[Peasy]

Worst Fenwick last year, worst shots against, playing against the easiest competition.

Yet Babs is still giving that line almost the same amount of 5 on 5 time as the Matthews line...

Really makes you think.