Pez68
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Shoulder to chest. Not sure how / why you need to go lower than that.
See gif above. If the NHL is serious about player safety(they aren't), these are exactly the type of hits that have to go.
Shoulder to chest. Not sure how / why you need to go lower than that.
He wasn't though. When contact happened he was in no way looking down and his head wasn't lowered.Because Khaira was crouched and looking at the puck. Tough hit, but clean. League agrees.
This hit is difficult to judge as Trouba did nothing “wrong” but the ppoc was the head which makes is bad. Very grey to me.
It shouldn't be grey. These are the type of hits that end careers and ruin people's lives. They have to go, and it's only a matter of time before they do. It's already started with USA Hockey at the youth level.
I don't know. Not sure what else Trouba is supposed to do there. You are taught to separate the guy from the puck, and Khaira never looked up.
I think the head was hit first. That’s the type of hit that needs to go.
Broke rule number one, keep your head up. Especially on your own end of the red line. The hit is clean, no follow through on Trouba’s end. Hit center line and in the chest area, seems textbook to me. As someone who has referee experience, albeit at much lower levels of hockey my hand wouldn’t be up.
I think the head was hit first. That’s the type of hit that needs to go.
Confirmed. A clean hit and the NHL got it right.
Sorry I touched a nerve. Not sure why you are so worked up about this. I mean, it sucks to see our guy get KO'd. No argument there.Just like your post in the main board thread responding to me, this is f***ing nonsense. Just like every post in this thread that you've made.
Khaira 100% looked up. The contact from Trouba's shoulder was initially made with the chin, which is what knocked Khaira out while he was still on his f***ing feet. You may need new eyes. The hit may not have been "illegal" by the specific rules of the NHL, but it was a bad f***ing hit, and exactly the type of shit the NHL "says" they're trying to eliminate from the game. This the type of hit that ends careers, and alters people's lives. It was completely unnecessary. He easily could have pulled up and laid off knowing Khaira was in a vulnerable position, but instead he drives his shoulder through his chin, and the only thought he had in his mind was to absolutely level him. He easily could have made a pokecheck there, also, knowing Khaira has no idea where the puck was as it bounced around in his feet.
And this is coming from someone who absolutely loves a big hit, and used to unleash some of the biggest hits you'd ever see in hockey.
I'm assuming you're in your 50s-60s, and you think all of Scott Stevens hits were good, clean hits too?
It seems like that's the generation that gives no f***s about these players, and the impact to their lives from some of these hits. The "Gotta keep your head up, bud!" crowd.
Sorry I touched a nerve. Not sure why you are so worked up about this. I mean, it sucks to see our guy get KO'd. No argument there.
That aside, I used to "unleash" hits too. And had plenty unleashed on me. And if I ever dawdled out of the zone like Khaira did, I would 100% expect a good chance of getting lit up, and deservedly so. If you played at a high level, I'm sure you agree with that.
The notion that Trouba should go for a poke check is absurd, and you know it. If he did, and missed, Gallant would be all over him about it. That's not Trouba's game.
Finally, no, I am not in my 50s-60s. Not all of Stevens' hits were clean. But I do miss more physical hockey.
Sorry I touched a nerve. Not sure why you are so worked up about this. I mean, it sucks to see our guy get KO'd. No argument there.
That aside, I used to "unleash" hits too. And had plenty unleashed on me. And if I ever dawdled out of the zone like Khaira did, I would 100% expect a good chance of getting lit up, and deservedly so. If you played at a high level, I'm sure you agree with that.
The notion that Trouba should go for a poke check is absurd, and you know it. If he did, and missed, Gallant would be all over him about it. That's not Trouba's game.
Finally, no, I am not in my 50s-60s. Not all of Stevens' hits were clean. But I do miss more physical hockey.
I hear you, and brain injuries are obviously always serious. But i don't see how you eliminate them from the game without fundamentally changing the rules of engagement. If they change the rules accordingly, fine. In today's game, however, I still believe the hit was clean and (at least today) the league agrees.It touches a nerve because of CTE. I have a family that play and a son that will likely play. The family members have had concussions without even playing in full contact hockey, yet. These types of hits absolutely need to be out of the game. He wasn't dawdling out of the zone. He was looking for a puck in his feet during a breakout. He didn't even have possession of it by the NHL standards. Look no further than Kane's offsides last week when Kaner kicked the puck to his stick as he crossed the blueline, and the goal was disallowed because it was ruled that's not "having possession".
And the poke check isn't absurd. You see it all the time when a guy loses the puck in his feet. Pay attention when players have the puck in their feet next game, and tell me how many are poked out with a stick, or they're maybe given a little shove, rather than absolutely lighting someone the f*** up.
Physical hockey is fine. Playoff hockey is generally very physical. But with what we know about brain injuries, you shouldn't expect that type of 80's or 90's brutal physical play to ever come back. Get used to guys not being able to be absolutely lit the f*** up at full speed. It's the direction the sport is headed.
I hear you, and brain injuries are obviously always serious. But i don't see how you eliminate them from the game without fundamentally changing the rules of engagement. If they change the rules accordingly, fine. In today's game, however, I still believe the hit was clean and (at least today) the league agrees.
I agree, players are taught to keep their head up and to separate a player from the puck however you are not taught to separate a player’s head from his body. A lot of players will take liberties when they see a guy in a vulnerable position and Trouba had no intention to play the puck and wanted to light him upIt's a hit that ends up in the grey area. If you suspend him, it pretty much eliminates body contact moving forward. It's impossible for Trouba to not hit his chin while throwing a clean hit to separate him from the puck, because the players head is down, which you are taught not to do as a Pee-Wee player (12 yo?).
On the other hand, Trouba has zero intention of playing a puck, and knows he is about to absolutely destroy someone and possibly end their career. Guys I respect, let up in those situations, even just a little bit. But can't say it's really an illegal check. An immoral check?
Here were the other two with Oilers
Hawks and doctors should sit down with him and have frank honest conversation about his future
We do not need Rags fans chiming in here. There is a main boards thread you can interact in.Broke rule number one, keep your head up. Especially on your own end of the red line. The hit is clean, no follow through on Trouba’s end. Hit center line and in the chest area, seems textbook to me. As someone who has referee experience, albeit at much lower levels of hockey my hand wouldn’t be up.