Confirmed with Link: Johnny Gaudreau re-signed! 6 Years, $6.75M AAV

[Body Checker]

Big, big deals - whether in term, money or both - always turn into albatrosses due to age and injury. The Kings might need another save via free cap buyouts down the road due to the brown, Richards and kopitar contracts. Good on flames management for changing the game. The cap could flatline for a good number of years so 10 mil plus contracts could be on way out.

Also I believe Johnny will go home to play for his family regardless of the size of his contract. I dont think paying him 7mil+ would have ended up making him a career flame.

 

[tmurfin]

Meh, I wouldn't be so set on him leaving after this contract. 6 years is a loooong time, for all we know, he could meet a nice Calgary girl and start a family in that time. I'll save the worrying for 30yr old me

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Meh, I wouldn't be so set on him leaving after this contract. 6 years is a loooong time, for all we know, he could meet a nice Calgary girl and start a family in that time. I'll save the worrying for 30yr old me

Maybe he will meet a nice Johnny Hoxville?

 

[Tofveve]

Meh, I wouldn't be so set on him leaving after this contract. 6 years is a loooong time, for all we know, he could meet a nice Calgary girl and start a family in that time. I'll save the worrying for 30yr old me

Hopefully and good point.

 

[tmurfin]

Maybe he will meet a nice Johnny Hoxville?

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Big, big deals - whether in term, money or both - always turn into albatrosses due to age and injury. The Kings might need another save via free cap buyouts down the road due to the brown, Richards and kopitar contracts. Good on flames management for changing the game. The cap could flatline for a good number of years so 10 mil plus contracts could be on way out.

Also I believe Johnny will go home to play for his family regardless of the size of his contract. I dont think paying him 7mil+ would have ended up making him a career flame.

Often, not always. Keith's contract will likely be great-to-decent his entire career, Ovechkin's is still fine, Carter's is still good, Josi's looks like it will be good for the entirety of its length, etc.

The real issue is that most of these long/big contracts get handed out when players are entering their late 20s/early 30s, which is shortly before a real drop in effectiveness often starts to occur.

 

[Tofveve]

 

[Mobiandi]

I'm very happy with the contract. That said, I'm apprehensive as to whether he'll stay in Calgary after this contract. I think by year 5 if we're still not one of the dominant teams in the league and haven't at least made the conference finals we'll trade him in the offseason or at the deadline of year 6, out east

 

[Calculon]

2. At the end of his contract stalemate, Calgary’s Johnny Gaudreau was getting some pressure from teammates to get it done. Word is Lindholm is getting similar messages.

This is an interesting one. Kelly Hrudey and Nick Kypreos made it very clear during Saturday Headlines they weren’t pleased about this.

5. A couple of notes on Gaudreau.

First, I think his opening ask was basically Aaron Ekblad’s contract. The Panthers’ defenceman makes $7.5M in tax-wonderful Florida, so you make allowances for the difference in Alberta.

As it was explained to me by a much-smarter person, someone making $7.5M in that state would net around $4.5M. (There is potential for other deductions, but I’m trying to keep this as simple as possible.) Someone making $7.5M in Calgary would net out around $3.9 million. So you raise your ask to compensate and that’s how I think it went into the $8.5M range. That was not going to happen, but you don’t short-arm your opening offer.

At the end, I think Calgary was only willing to go to $7M if Gaudreau gave up two years of unrestricted free agency, signing for seven seasons. That wasn’t going to happen. It was a struggle, but both player and team will benefit.

Friedman's 30 Thoughts

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I wonder if Escrow is included in their net?

 

[Anglesmith]

I wonder if Escrow is included in their net?

I believe it is. I don't think they're getting taxed at close to 50%.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I believe it is. I don't think they're getting taxed at over 50%.

That's what I thought. Ouch!

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I believe it is. I don't think they're getting taxed at close to 50%.

From my understanding, escrow is calculated before taxes. 6.75*0.16 = 1,080,000 in escrow.

His contract after escrow is 5,670,000. He would get taxed off that number.

Gaudreau would then get taxed at 48% for whatever games he plays in Alberta and then taxed every where he plays.

So 5.67*0.53 = 3,005,100
5.67 * 0.38 = 2,154,600.

5,670,000 - 3,005,100 =2,664,000
5,670,000 - 2,154,000 =3,515,400

Gaudreau should actually take home between 2,664,000 and 3,515,400. He would probably be at the lower end of the spectrum due to playing the majority of his games in Alberta.

53% is the highest tax rate in the league. It's in Ontario, and the lowest is at 38% in Florida.

 

[DJB]

So what's up with Gaudreau? Is he struggling ? Bad coaching or just a bad start? He seems to be getting g chances just not burying them yet.

Any ideas fellas?

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Missed training camp.

New system.

Didn't train at altitude, affecting home game play (his bread & butter)

Had tons of chances tonight but is still trying to do a lot by himself. Looked good though.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Missed training camp.

New system.

Didn't train at altitude, affecting home game play (his bread & butter)

Had tons of chances tonight but is still trying to do a lot by himself. Looked good though.

Home games are not his bread and butter any more than any other player; that's just how the bounces happened last season.

He just looked rusty as hell to start. Rusty, confused, and probably putting too much pressure on himself.

 

[tmurfin]

Home games are not his bread and butter any more than any other player; that's just how the bounces happened last season.

He just looked rusty as hell to start. Rusty, confused, and probably putting too much pressure on himself.

It was painfully obvious how much pressure he was putting on himself. He would snap after every play, or every save a goalie made on him. Seemed to settle down against CHI, I think the points start to flow now.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I personally do not think missing training camp had anything to do with anything. He looked like the best player on his team at the WC, I don't think missing 2 weeks would make a player like him rusty.

New coach, new system, stress of a contract, new season, clinching the stick. He's fine, he will go on a tear for the rest of the year.

 

[Lunatik]

It was painfully obvious how much pressure he was putting on himself. He would snap after every play, or every save a goalie made on him. Seemed to settle down against CHI, I think the points start to flow now.

But that doesn't fit the Oiler fan narrative that he's not trying because he cashed in, so you simply cannot be correct

 

[Lunatik]

I personally do not think missing training camp had anything to do with anything. He looked like the best player on his team at the WC, I don't think missing 2 weeks would make a player like him rusty.

New coach, new system, stress of a contract, new season, clinching the stick. He's fine, he will go on a tear for the rest of the year.

But the WC was also against other guys who hadn't played all summer. Sit for two weeks while everyone else is getting into NHL game shape and you will fall behind.

 

[tmurfin]

But that doesn't fit the Oiler fan narrative that he's not trying because he cashed in, so you simply cannot be correct

Dang, thought I had that one right.

 

[Mr Snrub]

But the WC was also against other guys who hadn't played all summer. Sit for two weeks while everyone else is getting into NHL game shape and you will fall behind.

The level of play at the World Cup was significantly higher than an NHL training camp. That's why it was the World Cup and they only let the best players in the world play.

I'm surprised this is even an argument being made. Missing out as everyone's getting on the same page for the system can be tough, but saying you're not in NHL shape while you're playing in a round robin against the best players in the world is another matter.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

The level of play at the World Cup was significantly higher than an NHL training camp. That's why it was the World Cup and they only let the best players in the world play.

I'm surprised this is even an argument being made. Missing out as everyone's getting on the same page for the system can be tough, but saying you're not in NHL shape while you're playing in a round robin against the best players in the world is another matter.

If you're playing a system that's completely foreign to you, yeah it's going to be tough to adjust no matter how good you are.

Playing on a team with other world class players will certainly help you look marvelous too.

 

[CraigsList]

Every time I think of a player on a slump, I just think of the Crosby-slump of last year, only to find him a PPG player at the end of the season and a cup-winner. I am not worried at all.

 

[Anglesmith]

The level of play at the World Cup was significantly higher than an NHL training camp. That's why it was the World Cup and they only let the best players in the world play.

I'm surprised this is even an argument being made. Missing out as everyone's getting on the same page for the system can be tough, but saying you're not in NHL shape while you're playing in a round robin against the best players in the world is another matter.

No, I think it's a perfectly valid reasoning. Everyone knows that players take time to adjust to systems, but it's really a non-factor if every player in the tournament is having to adapt to a new system. Then it just becomes more about players vs. players rather than systems vs. systems. The level of skill might be higher, but the systems play probably isn't. The exception would probably be Team Canada, who have a consistent coach and collection of players basically for that exact reason.