Jets - General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation 14-15 Part IV

[jamiebez]

I believe it wasn't Thorburn's agent who said their was interest everywhere, but Toth said "trade" and said he reported on said trade talk. I just can't remember any other trades being mentioned.

I didn't read the quote.... did he say he reported on it or just heard about it?

It's quite possible to me that teams have inquired about him, and Toth (or anyone else) hasn't reported on it previously. That's how it works in sports journalism - break the GM's trust and you're out of the loop.

Personally, I don't see the value in the guy, but so far Maurice and Noel (to name just two) disagree with me.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I would think that last year since he was on a good contract and going to be an UFA that a lot of teams had interest as a depth guy for the playoffs.

 

[Hunter368]

You guys hear between 2-3 period (tonight) Lawless talking about the Reimer+ for Yak trade rumour? Bad for Oilers.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

You guys hear between 2-3 period (tonight) Lawless talking about the Reimer+ for Yak trade rumour? Bad for Oilers.

Reimer is a clear backup in TO and Yakupov still has huge potential. Makes less than 0 sense for edm with scrivens and fasth already there.

EDIT: Sorry thought you said bad for to.

 

[Hunter368]

Reimer is a clear backup in TO and Yakupov still has huge potential. Makes less than 0 sense for edm with scrivens and fasth already there.

EDIT: Sorry thought you said bad for to.

Agreed, but you did hear/see that interview right? I think it was shown only on the WPG feed.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Agreed, but you did hear/see that interview right? I think it was shown only on the WPG feed.

was at game so i didnt see it.

 

[Bob E]

Agreed, but you did hear/see that interview right? I think it was shown only on the WPG feed.

Lawless is just pulling something out of his a$$.

Reimer makes little sense, especially for Yak. Maybe Phaneuf goes the other way, but that's a guess. So that's just like Lawless.

 

[KingBogo]

Lawless is just pulling something out of his a$$.

Reimer makes little sense, especially for Yak. Maybe Phaneuf goes the other way, but that's a guess. So that's just like Lawless.

It was just a purely stupid comment by lawless. At first I didn't think I heard him correctly. I think we could mustard up a little more than a career backup for a former #1 pick still on his ELC.

 

[Hunter368]

It was just a purely stupid comment by lawless. At first I didn't think I heard him correctly. I think we could mustard up a little more than a career backup for a former #1 pick still on his ELC.

Agreed, it was a stupid rumour, wonder where he heard that gem. Oiler fans would freak out if their GM made that trade.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I believe it wasn't Thorburn's agent who said their was interest everywhere, but Toth said "trade" and said he reported on said trade talk. I just can't remember any other trades being mentioned.

saw that exchange on twitter...it was aggravating. toth comes from the gord steeves school of debating: just make **** up.

 

[Bob E]

Wonder how long it takes for Chevy to make a move to shake things up?

Oh wait. This is Chevy. Finishing last in the Central again, is a process.

 

[JetsFan815]

Leon Draisaitl for Andrew Ladd. Would you do it?

 

[CorgisPer60]

You guys hear between 2-3 period (tonight) Lawless talking about the Reimer+ for Yak trade rumour? Bad for Oilers.

Such a baseless rumour and terrible trade. Oilers already have Fasth and Scrivens, who by all accounts are as good as Reimer. It would have to be something substantial as a plus to that trade, like Reimer + 2015 1st for Yakupov. Nonis would never pull the trigger on that trade.

 

[KingBogo]

Wonder how long it takes for Chevy to make a move to shake things up?

Oh wait. This is Chevy. Finishing last in the Central again, is a process.

But which way to you go? Does Chevy believe this team can make the playoffs and tries to get something that can help immediately sacrificing a bit of the future? Or do you start looking to move vets now to enhance the future and let the inevitable train wreck happen? Or most likely he does nothing, we find our barrings enough to salvage an almost good enough to make the playoffs season. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Whileee]

But which way to you go? Does Chevy believe this team can make the playoffs and tries to get something that can help immediately sacrificing a bit of the future? Or do you start looking to move vets now to enhance the future and let the inevitable train wreck happen? Or most likely he does nothing, we find our barrings enough to salvage an almost good enough to make the playoffs season. Rinse and repeat.

I think the Jets need to wait until after this home stand, or maybe 20 games in. If they are struggling at that point, I think Chevy needs to work on reshaping the roster by moving a couple of core players for young players, prospects and /or picks.

 

[Bob E]

I think the Jets need to wait until after this home stand, or maybe 20 games in. If they are struggling at that point, I think Chevy needs to work on reshaping the roster by moving a couple of core players for young players, prospects and /or picks.

20 games in, makes sense. Give some time to see how players perform. But this is Chevy.

Kane may just be back, after 10-15 gms, so he'll have to see what the lineup is like with him in it. If there are any other injuries, he'll wait till everyone is back, to "evaluate" this roster. And then it will be the TD, and then **crickets**.

Most definitely, rinse and repeat.

 

[Aavco Cup]

But which way to you go? Does Chevy believe this team can make the playoffs and tries to get something that can help immediately sacrificing a bit of the future?

Can't see the future being sacrificed. Perhaps a move that adds some salary and helps out a cap strapped team? As long as it has minimal impact on the prospect cupboard.

 

[Bob E]

But which way to you go? Does Chevy believe this team can make the playoffs and tries to get something that can help immediately sacrificing a bit of the future? Or do you start looking to move vets now to enhance the future and let the inevitable train wreck happen? Or most likely he does nothing, we find our barrings enough to salvage an almost good enough to make the playoffs season. Rinse and repeat.

Support this lineup with 'adds' to compete now or move vets for more, young assets. Well, I like option two. Your best players are young and developing. Support them, not 30+ yr olds who are on the decline.

 

[KingBogo]

Support this lineup with 'adds' to compete now or move vets for more, young assets. Well, I like option two. Your best players are young and developing. Support them, not 30+ yr olds who are on the decline.

Agreed. But we both know how unlikely it is for Chevy to all of a sudden take the bull by the horns and start making bold moves.

Like all seasons I try to come in optimistic, and I know its early but after a 3-4 preseason against mostly fellow weak sisters. A 1-3 start, getting blanked by arguably the only team in the division we have a chance of finishing ahead of, the optimism is already starting to drain.

 

[Evil Little]

So if I've got this right, all of the furious posturing about 'picking a direction' and 'transitioning the core' is just about trading Byfuglien? Likely for a low first, a middling prospect, and a cap dump that we get to worry about 'blocking our prospects' and 'being paid money he could have used to sign Frolik'? What are the chances that said cap dump or middling prospect will get a point on 80% of the Jets' power-play goals?

That sounds so appealing, it must just be fear that's keeping Cheveldayoff inactive.

Or is Ladd supposed to go, too?

 

[Channelcat]

Leon Draisaitl for Andrew Ladd. Would you do it?

You would probably need to throw in a first too. They love Draisaitl and it would take an awful lot more than Ladd to get him......not to mention the no movement clause.

 

[truck]

I think the Jets need to wait until after this home stand, or maybe 20 games in. If they are struggling at that point, I think Chevy needs to work on reshaping the roster by moving a couple of core players for young players, prospects and /or picks.

If the Jets are where most people anticipated they'd be at the 20 game mark they, then the GM needs to make drastic changes? Not sure I buy that.

 

[Aavco Cup]

If the Jets are where most people anticipated they'd be at the 20 game mark they, then the GM needs to make drastic changes? Not sure I buy that.

But where do Jets management realistically expect the team to be by then? Perhaps they have different expectations than their public stance of wanting to be a playoff team. But maybe they actually believe it.

 

[Sweech]

You would probably need to throw in a first too. They love Draisaitl and it would take an awful lot more than Ladd to get him......not to mention the no movement clause.

Ladd AND a 1st for Draisaitl.

what...

 

[Evil Little]

But where do Jets management realistically expect the team to be by then? Perhaps they have different expectations than their public stance of wanting to be a playoff team. But maybe they actually believe it.

In Chipman's interview with Patterson and Lawless he said--I paraphrase: 'we want to make the playoffs this year, but... [something something sacrificing the future]'. To me this sends a much different message from 'we want to make the playoffs this year [full stop]'.

I think the media has picked up on some just-make-the-playoffs-already goal, but the organization has bigger, and yes, more difficult and longer-term, plans.

[Hilariously, on Hockey Central last night ****ing-dip**** P.J. Stock and the weaselly-professor guy both said basically that the organization is patient and improving and also Atlanta's cupboards, et cetera, meanwhile Leah Hextall was spouting the '5 year plan' nonsense that I've been unable to trace back to True North. So, maybe it's the local media as opposed to the media in general.]