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I'm scared to death of Bonktastic smacking me in the face with a chair over this, but...

Doesn't Phaneuf need to be protected due to his NMC?




*Zorf is hiding in an undisclosed cave now*

Yup, Ryan as well
 

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I'm scared to death of Bonktastic smacking me in the face with a chair over this, but...

Doesn't Phaneuf need to be protected due to his NMC?

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True, there will be guys like MacArhtur available.

So, if MacArthur comes back this season, and puts up ~50 pts playing on Turris' wing, with no ill effects from the concussions, do we still leave him unprotected? Does Vegas take him or Methot if we leave both unprotected?

I imagine we protect MacArthur if the above comes about, that depends on how some other guys develop.

Turris, Zib, Ryan, Hoff, Stone are no brainers to be protected. Then we have to pick two of MacArthur, Lazar, Smith, Pageau, Dzingel, Paul. At what point do we opt to expose MacArhtur vs protect MacArthur?

MacArthur should be exposed if Ryan can't be dealt. That's a lot money tied up in 2nd line wingers and in positions that are typically used to give opportunities to young players. We can have one of them, but two is a poor use of budget space.
 

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MacArthur should be exposed if Ryan can't be dealt. That's a lot money tied up in 2nd line wingers and in positions that are typically used to give opportunities to young players. We can have one of them, but two is a poor use of budget space.

So, we expose a 2nd line winger so that we can protect a 3rd liner (albeit a good one) that likely never becomes a 2nd liner, because it opens up a spot for young players to get a shot in the top 6?

Idk, if MacArthur alleviates any fear of him not recovering from the concussions, do we not protect him and try and trade him if he must go to open up roster spots, or do we think his contract is pushing him into negative value territory?

How good of a season does MacArthur have to have in order for us to protect him? If he puts up a career year (say 60-ish pts, with ~25 goals and plays 17:30 mins a night), does that change our minds?

Do we even have guys in the system we want to open that spot up for?
 

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Actually, Pageau should be comfortably in the 6-hole on the protected list. Lazar is my bubble guy because he's young and cheap. I'm projecting out a salary crunch after raises to Hoffman, Ceci and Zibanejad. A year before Stone and Turris. I'm leaving the budget space for a goalie. Which leaves Ryan, Methot and MacArthur as more obvious positions to trim salary.

At a certain point, we will have prospects that have offensive upside and we might bring them in on the wing even if they'll ultimately play center. 14 months from now... Who knows? White is an obvious possibility. The 12th could be pressing. Maybe Puempel, Paul, Perron or some other prospect makes great strides. Maybe Smith signs reasonably and MacArthur posts another injury shortened 35 point season. That combined with prospect hopes, it could make sense to pare salary down while we have the chance.

I'd protect MacArthur if he posted a 50 point season and Ryan were moved.
 

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I'm thinking about possible scenarios, but I think there is still a chance that they will try and move Ryan.

Ryan will be protected for the expansion draft. I would guess someone like Methot would most likely be picked. After the draft concludes, I could see them trading Ryan to get Methot back. He has a NMC, but only a 10 team NTC.



If Ryan has another season like the past two, I could see him be very willing to go to a low stress market, which also happens to be the closest to his home in Idaho. Las Vegas would be ok with it as they have a name player they could market.
 

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Methot does seem like the obvious pick but what about Smith?

Say he has another decent season, he's going to UFA on a high note, we may or may not be able to re-sign him. I wouldn't be protecting him over Lazar or Pageau.
He'd be a solid piece for a young team - lots of experience, not terrible production even if he reverts to 15 goals.

THe thing with D is that a lot of teams have more than 3 good D so there will be a lot of talent available there

It makes no sense to pick (or protect, for that matter) someone who will be an UFA on July 1st.
 

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Ya except I wouldn't want my team to be named after a collection of players that aren't quite good enough to be playing in the playoffs on the big squad.

I'm actually fine with it being Black Knights. I might have just gone with just Knights, which may resemble Kings a bit too much.
Yes, it was just my lame attempt at a joke... :laugh:
 

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Ryan, Turris, Stone, Hoffman, Zibanejad, Pageau
(Look to obtain a better forward then Lazar)

EK, Phanuef, Ceci

And for the goalie I'd look into acquiring a young goalie like Matt Murray
 

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So....what about kids? Can Vegas (once they become official) sign a few kids (like undrafted 19 year olds) out of junior this summer...or do they have to wait until next year?

My guess is that they could and any of them who would turn 20 on or before December 31 could be placed on an AHL/ECHL roster.

Historical note:

The Flyers bought the AHL Québec Aces one month before the 1967 draft and thus acquired 16 professional players and the rights to 16 amateurs.

I could not find the names of these amateurs, but the following professionals who had contracts with the Aces played with the Flyers:

Bill Sutherland
Jean-Guy Gendron
Simon Nolet
André Lacroix
Claude LaForge
John Hanna
Ed Hoekstra

Léon Rochefort was also playing with the Aces but had a contract with the Canadiens, and was selected in the expansion draft.
 

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This is going to be a **** show. I guarantee you that toronto goes crazy with ways to exploit this system.
 

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My guess is that they could and any of them who would turn 20 on or before December 31 could be placed on an AHL/ECHL roster.

Historical note:

The Flyers bought the AHL Québec Aces one month before the 1967 draft and thus acquired 16 professional players and the rights to 16 amateurs.

I could not find the names of these amateurs, but the following professionals who had contracts with the Aces played with the Flyers:

Bill Sutherland
Jean-Guy Gendron
Simon Nolet
André Lacroix
Claude LaForge
John Hanna
Ed Hoekstra

Léon Rochefort was also playing with the Aces but had a contract with the Canadiens, and was selected in the expansion draft.

Cool. Good Historical note.
 

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This is going to be a **** show. I guarantee you that toronto goes crazy with ways to exploit this system.

We ought to be doing the same, we're not in too bad a position ourselves. In particular, we should do our best to exploit ourselves a goalie out of one of the teams that's going to lose one.
 

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We ought to be doing the same, we're not in too bad a position ourselves. In particular, we should do our best to exploit ourselves a goalie out of one of the teams that's going to lose one.

This. Goddam this.

Also, I don't know how much exploiting Toronto will need to do. Literally every single useful player they have will be protected under the 2-yr rule. The 8 players or 7-3-1 leaves them plenty of room to protect Reilly...and...ummm..........

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Reilly again?
 

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This. Goddam this.

Also, I don't know how much exploiting Toronto will need to do. Literally every single useful player they have will be protected under the 2-yr rule. The 8 players or 7-3-1 leaves them plenty of room to protect Reilly...and...ummm..........

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Reilly again?

Yeah, I was going to say this.

Toronto is going to have the opposite problem than the rest of the league , not enough good eligible players to bother protecting in the first place.
 

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This. Goddam this.

Also, I don't know how much exploiting Toronto will need to do. Literally every single useful player they have will be protected under the 2-yr rule. The 8 players or 7-3-1 leaves them plenty of room to protect Reilly...and...ummm..........

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Reilly again?

Stammer, they'll have to protect Stammer:sarcasm:
 

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So, there's a guy over on the trade boards, Freaky Styley, who did a pretty good recap of who would be available to draft if the expansion draft were to take place right now (assuming no trades were made, backroom deals between Vegas and other teams not to take certain unprotected guys, etc...), and another guy "BatVader" converted it into an HF-worthy chart.

Hopefully those two guys are OK with me posting their work here. At the very least, I want to be sure they got credit for this, not me.

It's interesting to look at, at the very least to get a good idea of what teams need to do some work to ready themselves for the expansion draft.

[table="head;width=3000]Team|Option|Protected Players|Notable Exempt|Notable Unprotected|Notes|

:ducks2|2|F: Getzlaf(NMC), Perry(NMC), Silfverberg, Rakell; D: Theodore, Lindholm, Fowler, Vatanen; G: Gibson|Ritchie|F: Kesler, Cogliano, Pirri, Thompson; D: Depres, Manson, Stoner, Bieksa; G: Andersen|ANA has a lot of UFAs, so this list could change drastically in a few weeks. Right now, the Ducks would choose option 2 to hold onto their core of young defenseman. I think they would be hoping to pawn off the Kesler contract on an expansion team, though losing him for nothing would still hurt. Look for Fowler or Vatanen to be moved this summer (to make room for Depres)as well as Frederik Anderson for futures and help up front.
:coyotes|2|F: Rieder, Doan, Hanzal, Vermette D: OEL, Stone, Murphy, Michalek G: Smith(NMC)|Domi, Duclair, Strome, Dvorak, Perlini|F: Richardson, Vitale, Sekac, Plotnikov D: Tinordi, Connauton G: Domingue|ARI best players are exempt, leaving them the opportunity to sign a few big name free agents (budget pending) or trade futures to teams like ANA to pick up a player for cheap. With a new GM and a plethora of upcoming UFAs this year and next, look for many changes to this list come expansion time.|
:bruins|1|F: Krecji(NMC), Bergeron(NMC), Marchand, Beleskey, Pastrnak, Hayes, Spooner D: Chara(NMC), Seidenberg, Krug G: Rask(NMC)|Vatrano|F: Ferraro, Connolly D: McQuaid, Morrow, C. Miller G: Subban, Gustavsson|Bruins most notable exposed is Subban, but that is unavoidable. They could keep a guy like Morrow over Seidenberg in hopes to relieve themselves of cap space, or a guy like Ferraro over Hayes. All in all expansion doesn't hurt them and they have a spot to protect another big name forward so look for them to sign one via the free agency this summer.|
:sabres|1|F: O'Reilly(NMC), Kane, Ennis, Girgensons, Foligno, Larsson D: Bogosian(NMC), Pysyk, Ristolainen G: Lehner|Fasching, Reinhart, Eichel|F: Gionta, Moulson D: McCabe, Franson, Gorges|Like ARZ, BUF has nice pieces exempt from expansion. This allows them to expose Moulson in hopes to rid them of his contract but forces them to expose a promising D in McCabe. BUF could potentially package McCabe & a forward like Larsson or Foligno to upgrade up front.|
:flames|2|F: Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Colborne D: Hamilton, Giordano, Brodie, Jokipakka G: Ortio|Shinkaruk, Bennett, Klimchuk, Poirier|F: Ferland, Frolik, Stajan, Bouma, Jooris D: Wideman, Wotherspoon, Smid|This one was tough as Calgary has few top end forwards needing protection, and lack a goaltender at this time. Jokipakka is a good defenseman exposed but it was him or Wotherspoon. Look for the Flames to add a goaltender and perhaps a high end forward via trade/free agency.|
:canes|1|F: Staal, Skinner, Lindholm, Rask, McGinn, Nordstrom, Di Giuseppe D: Faulk, Murphy, Hainsey G: Lack|Hanifin, Fleury, McKeown|F: Nestrasil, McClement, Woods D: Wizniewski, Pesce, Slavin|CAR is another who benefit from high end exempt players. They are all defenseman which prompted me to go with option 1. I admittedly don't know too much about the bottom of the Canes' lineup but looks like they are a team that could scoop up cheap, soon to be exposed talent.|
:hawks|1|F: Kane(NMC), Toews(NMC), Hossa(NMC), Anisimov, Teravainen, Shaw, Kruger D: Keith(NMC), Seabrook(NMC), Hjalmarsson(NMC) G: Crawford(NMC)|Panarin, Hartman|F: Bickell, Panik, Desjardins D: Van Riemsdyk, Gustafsson, Pokka, Rundblad|The Blackhawks are in a tough spot with all their NMCs, most notably with Marion Hossa. It remains to be seen what happens with Shaw this offseason but as of now the Hawks look to be exposing 2 very promising defenseman in TVR & Pokka. Look for them to explore deals involving these players for immediate impact, exempt players|
:avs|2|F: Duchene, Landeskog, Soderberg, MacKinnon D: Johnson(NMC), Barrie, Beauchemin(NMC), Zadorov G: Varlamov|Rantanen, Bigras, Compher|F: Iginla, Grigorenko, Comeau, Mitchell, Martinsen D: Holden, Gelinas G: Pickard|The Avs find themselves in a pickle with the Beauchemin NMC. He forces them to us option 2 to protect Zadorov, but expose Grigorenko in the process. If the Avs fill the void of Boedker with another free agent, that could mean exposing Soderberg as well. Look for the Avs to be a player this offseason as Pickard is one guy they will not want to lose via expansion. Perhaps the Barrie rumours are true?|
:cbj|1|F: Saad, Dubinsky(NMC), Foligno(NMC), Clarkson(NMC), Hartnell(NMC), Jenner, Wennberg D: Tyutin(NMC), Murray, Jones G: Dansk|Rychel, Milano, Korpisalo|F: Calvert, Atkinson, Karlsson D: Johnson, Savard G: Bobrovsky|The Blue Jackets are in a world of hurt with the amount of NMCs they have, forcing them to expose some key contributors on their team. Look for them to expose Bobrovsky and pray someone will take his contract or that he will bounce back with a healthy season. Look for them to get creative and bribe teams like CAR or ARZ to take on players like Hartnell or Tyutin (if they can convince them to waive their NMCs)|
:stars|1|F: Spezza(NMC), Seguin, Benn, Faksa, Eakin, Nichuskin, Ritchie D: Johns, Klingberg, Lindell G: Niemi|Honka, Janmark|F: Sharp, Roussel, Hemsky D: Oduya, Oleksiak G: Lehtonen, Campbell|DAL doesn't seem to be in bad shape, especially with high end D prospects exempt. While they do risk to lose big time contributors, most are UFA at that time and it's uncertain whether they will even be in their plans. Should they re-sign Sharp, look for a guy like Eakin to be on the block with the emergence of Faksa. I'm sure the Stars will be shopping both goaltenders, but its unlikely other teams will be doing them any favours.|
:wings|1|F: Zetterberg, Nyquist, Tatar, Abdelkader, Sheahan, Jurco, Athanasiou D: Green, Ericsson, Dekeyser G: Mrazek|Larkin, Bertuzzi, Mantha|F: Pulkkinen, Glendening, Franzen D: Kronwall, Smith, Ouellet, Sproul G: Howard|DET find themselves in a good position to deal one of their excess D that will be unprotected for a better forward. Losing one of Ouellet or Sproul for nothing would hurt, and look for them to expose Kronwall because of his contract length and injury history. Jimmy Howard could easily end up being the starting goaltender for an expansion team.|
:edmonton|1|F: Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle, Yakupov, Maroon, Lander, Pouliot D: Klefbom, Sekera(NMC), Reinhart G: Talbot(NMC)|McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse|F: Kassian, Korpikoski D: Ference, Pardy G: Brossoit|EDM is in an enviable position that allows them to be flexible and choose option 1 or 2 depending on what happens with them this offseason. They aren't exposing any one that is a huge contributor, and 3 major core pieces are exempt from expansion. Expect Chiarelli to make a couple big moves (Yakupov) but it won't be expansion forcing his hand.|
:panthers|1|F: Bjugstad, Jokinen, Smith, Huberdeau, Barkov, Trocheck, Grimaldi D: Kulikov, Petrovic, Ekblad G: Luongo|Crouse, Matheson, McCann|F: Bolland, Purcell, Hudler, Howden D: Kindl|Panthers are in a great position for expansion, mainly due to the number of expiring contracts this offseason and next. Look for the Panthers to target a high impact forward (Radulov) with all of their available cash and ability to protect.|
:kings2|1|F: Kopitar(NMC), Carter, Gaborik, Toffoli, King, Pearson, Clifford D: Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez G: Quick|Kempe|F: Brown, Lewis, Nolan, Shore D: Forbort, McNabb, Scuderi G: Enroth|Kings are another team that won't really be affected by the expansion draft. Their core pieces are protected, and although they have a few nice pieces exposed, they have the flexibility to change their structure and protect someone like McNabb should they choose. If anything, they could dangle some exposed pieces for more futures that would be exempt from protection.|
:wild|1|F: Parise(NMC), Koivu(NMC), Pominville(NMC), Coyle, Granlund, Niederreiter, Zucker D: Suter(NMC), Brodin, Dumba G: Dubnyk|Reilly, Eriksson Ek, Tuch|F: Haula, Vanek, Schroeder, Dalpe D: Scandella, Folin, Spurgeon G: Kuemper|Minnesota will feel the bite of expansion if they do not do something this offseason. They have to expose top 4 defensemen in Scandella & Spurgeon, or leave 3 valuable forwards up for grabs. Darcy Kuemper is another guy that could get scooped, but might get passed over with all the goaltending choices available. A trade involving a defenseman and top 9 forward for a top 6 forward makes sense - I wonder if Drouin is still on the table.|
:habs|1|F: Plekanec, Pacioretty, Gallagher, Eller, Galchenyuk, Lessio, Andrighetto D: Subban(NMC), Petry(NMC), Beaulieu G: Price|De La Rose, Scherbak, McCarron, Fucale|F: Desharnais, Mitchell, Byron, Danault, Matteau D: Emelin, Barberio G: Condon|Montreal has no pressure to force any moves this offseason because of expansion. They have some nice pieces in the exempt pile, leaving them free to go on as business as usual to try to improve the team on D and up front.|
:nashville|2|F: Neal, Johansen, Forsberg, Wilson D: Weber, Josi, Ellis, Ekholm G: Rinne(NMC)|Fiala|F: Fisher, Smith, Riberio, Nystrom, Salomaki, Jarnkrok, Sissons, Watson D: Jackman, Bitetto G: Hutton|Craig Smith or Matthias Ekholm? Some may disagree with NSH going the 8 skaters route, but they would surely lose one of Ekholm/Ellis should they be exposed. In this format, they stand to lose an impact forward or 2, but those are much easier to replace. Given what they stand to lose, Nashville could be a candidate for trading impact players for exemptions this offseason.|
:devils|2|F: Zajac, Cammalleri, Henrique, Palmieri, Boucher, Smith-Pelley, Josefson D: Greene, Larsson, Severson G: Schneider|Zacha, Quenneville, Blackwood, Wood|F: Kalinin D: Moore, Merrill G: Kinkaid|NJ is another one of those teams with protection slots to spare. With some money coming off the books this year look for them to target a forward that is on the outside looking in or someone on an unfavorable contract. A team like the one below comes to mind.|
:isles|2|F: Tavares, Lee, Nelson, Strome D: Boychuk (NMC), Leddy, Hamonic, De Haan G: Halak|Dal Colle, Barzal, Ho-Sang, Pulock|F: Grabovski, Kulemin, Bailey, Clutterbuck, Cizikas, Prince, Quine D: Hickey G: Greiss|This will be a big offseason for the Islanders with Nielsen & Okposo both pending UFAs. If they re-sign one, do they leave someone like De Haan exposed for expansion? Do they think Greiss is capable of being the #1 guy and move Halak? With the amount of young forwards waiting in the wings, they can afford to lose a player or 2 up front. I'm sure they are praying that will be Grabovski or Kulemin, but Bailey or Clutterbuck are the likely casualties|
:rangers|1|F: Nash, Stepan, Brassard, Zuccarello, Kreider, Lindberg/Hayes, Miller D: Staal(NMC), Girardi(NMC), McDonagh G: Lundqvist(NMC)|Skjei|F: Fast, Lindberg/Hayes D: Klein, McIlrath G: Raanta|Again, NMCs taking a toll with Girardi. With quality players exposed and the Rangers likely losing defensemen Dan Boyle and Keith Yandle this summer, look for some movement at the draft. They are without their top 2 picks at the draft and have only Skjei exempt from expansion. A move to acquire quality for quantity or pick up futures that would be exempt looks imminent.|
:sens|1|F: Ryan(NMC), Stone, Turris, Zibanejad, Hoffman, Lazar, Chiasson/Pageau D: Phaneuf(NMC), Karlsson, Ceci G: Anderson|Chabot|F: Chiasson/Pageau, Puempel, Smith, Neil D: Methot, Wiercioch, Wideman, Borowiecki G: Hammond|OTT looks to be a team that could trim the fat while loading up on futures. Losing one or two of Methot, Wiercioch Ceci, Zibanejad or Lazar would hurt, so it might be best to package some young talent for immediate help. It's that or continue loading up on exempt picks or prospects.|
:flyers|1|F: Giroux(NMC), Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Couturier, Raffl, Laughton D: Del Zotto, Gudas, Gostisbehere G: Neuvirth|Konecny, Provorov, Sanheim, Morin, Myers|F: Umberger, Read, Cousins, Weal, Bellemare D: Streit, MacDonald, Manning G: Mason|While Philly stands to lose a good forward or 2, expansion allows them to potentially rid themselves of an unfavorable contract in Andrew MacDonald. After the playoffs, Mason is let go in favour of Neuvirth and could potentially be another expansion starter. While the protected D are unimpressive, the exempt Flyers might be the best in the NHL. They are set on the backend for the future and don't need to worry about losing a single blue chipper.|
:pens|1|F: Malkin(NMC), Crosby(NMC), Kessel(NMC), Horqvist, Hagelin, Bonino, Fehr D: Letang(NMC), Maatta, Pouliot G: Fleury(NMC)|Sprong|F: Kunitz, Bennett, Sundqvist, Sheary, Rust, Kuhnhackl D: Daley, Cole, Schultz, Dumoulin G: Murray, Zatkoff|Pick your poison with the Pens. With so many quality young players left unprotected something has to give. A Fleury trade is a real possibility this offseason given the play of Matt Murray. That is, if they can get him to waive his NMC. If not, Matt Murray would be a very attractive option to an expansion team.|
:sharks|1|F: Couture, Pavelski, Ward, Donskoi, Hertl, Tierney, Thornton D: Burns, Vlasic, Braun G: Jones|Meier, Goldobin|F: Wingels, Marleau, Karlsson, Nieto D: Martin, Dillon, Mueller|It's tough to say what the rules will be regarding UFAs in 2017 or what direction the Sharks will take. My gut says they will choose to re-sign Thornton & Burns over Marleau if the cap allows. They could go a completely different direction. One thing I do know is I would not want to put myself in a position to expose Micro Mueller. If I'm Doug Wilson, I trade him for a high 1st rounder at the draft.|
:blues|1|F: Tarasenko, Stastny, Steen, Schwartz, Lehtera, Backes, Jaskin D: Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Shattenkirk G: Allen|Fabbri, Parayko, Barbashev|F: Berglund, Reaves, Paajarvi, Rattie D: Gunnarsson, Bortuzzo, Edmundson, Lindbohm G: Elliott|It's an embarrassment of riches as St. Louis benefits from the exemption rule as well. Though it is a nice crop of defensemen to choose from for an expansion franchise. If I'm a team with a free D slot to protect (PHI) I look at relieving STL of theirs at a low cost.|
:bolts|1|F: Stamkos, Callahan(NMC), Filppula(NMC), Johnson, Palat, Kucherov, Drouin D: Hedman, Stralman, Coburn G: Vasilevsky|Deangelo, Erne, Point|F: Killorn, Boyle, Condra, Brown, Namestnikov, Paquette D: Carle, Garrison, Koekkoek, Sustr, Nesterov G: Bishop|This might be the best group of available players in the league, leaving Tampa with some questions to ponder. Obviously some of those answers will come from the Stamkos & Drouin situations, but they will still be forced to expose some young talent in Namestnikov & Koekkoek. That's even ignoring the goaltending situation. Callahan & Fillpula's NMCs don't help things. Will be interesting to see what strategy Yzerman takes, but expect moves to be made.|
:leafs|1|F: Van Riemsdyk, Bozak, Kadri, Komarov, Nylander, Gauthier, Holland D: Rielly, Gardiner, Corrado/Marincin G: Sparks|Marner, Kapanen, Hyman|F: Lupul, Michalek, Laich, Greening D: Robidas, Hunwick, Corrado/Marincin G: Bernier|The Leafs should be looking at adding a defenseman for one of their exempt pieces. That, and hoping an expansion team takes Bernier off of their hands. They also have the roster and cap room to make a big splash this offseason should they choose. Stamkos anyone?|
:nucks|1|F: H Sedin(NMC), D Sedin(NMC), Sutter, Hansen, Baertschi, Horvat, Granlund D: Tanev, Gudbranson, Edler G: Markstrom|Virtanen, Tryamkin, Hutton|F: Burrows, Dorsett, Higgins, Vey, Gaunce, Etem D: Sbisa G: Miller|I have no doubt in my mind that the Canucks will sign at least one defenseman to this summer to fill their last protected spot. They also have some nice exempt pieces they could use as trade chips should they go that route. Otherwise it's not an overly impressive group. *UPDATE*. Looks like the Canucks used one of those pieces in McCann to upgrade the back end. While the trade was a head scratcher, it begins to legitimize the 'Nucks defense.|
:caps|1|F: Ovechkin, Backstrom, Oshie, Johansson, Williams, Kuznetzov, Burakovsky D: Carlson, Alzner, Niskanen G: Holtby|Vrana, Bowey, Barber|F: Winnik, Beagle, Wilson, Latta D: Orpik, Orlov, Chorney G: Grubauer|A team like Washington isn't going to make any knee-jerk moves in terms of expansion, even if they stand to lose someone like Orpik or Orlov. They will go on with business as usual, and re-assess this factor come deadline time.|
:jets|2|F: Wheeler, Little, Schiefele, Armia D: Byfuglien(NMC), Enstrom(NMC), Trouba, Myers G: Hellebuyck|Ehlers, Petan, Connor, Comrie|F: Lowry, Burmistrov, Dano, Stafford, Perreault, Thorburn, Tanev, Copp, Lipon D: Stuart G: Pavelec, Hutchinson|Jets are in a tough spot with the Enstrom NMC and stand to lose Myers or a promising forward or 2 because of it (Dano or Armia, specifically). With Connor, Ehlers and a guy like Laine joining the lineup I chose option 2 for the Jets, as Myers would be a much larger blow. Look for them to try to move Enstrom up until the deadline. Teams like Toronto, Philadelphia, Edmonton or Carolina come to mind.|
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Keep in mind that there are a few errors on the above chart (for example: Girardi doesn't have to be protected as his NMC expires before the draft, Draisaitl DOES need to be protected), but it's not a bad template to work off of.
 

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Marleau - Kesler - C.Smith
Bailey - Lindberg/K.Hayes - Haula
Kassian - Grigorenko - Prince
Calvert - Bouma - Read
Dano, Vey, Namestnikov, Howden, Jamkrok, Puempel, Bennett, Shore

Spurgeon - Emelin
Pokka - McNabb
Franson - Pesce
Methot, Orlov, Mueller, Olekesiak, Sproul, Merrill, Corrado, Kronwall

Bishop
Mason
Murray
Elliott, Dominique, Subban
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Took the most valuable asset off every team and guys like Kesler/Marleau will be nice trade chips
 

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Keep in mind that there are a few errors on the above chart (for example: Girardi doesn't have to be protected as his NMC expires before the draft, Draisaitl DOES need to be protected), but it's not a bad template to work off of.

Hopefully they're still working on it. I believe that Bieksa has a NMC. They completely forgot MacArthur and there's no debate between Pageau and Chiasson. They need more specific fan input.
 

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Yeah, I was going to say this.

Toronto is going to have the opposite problem than the rest of the league , not enough good eligible players to bother protecting in the first place.

Have they changed the rule (or I guess I should not implementing the rule...) That the players team leave unprotected must account for like 25% of their salary?

If thats the case LV isn't going to grab their 5-6 dmen who are making top line money.
 

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My guess is that they could and any of them who would turn 20 on or before December 31 could be placed on an AHL/ECHL roster.

Historical note:

The Flyers bought the AHL Québec Aces one month before the 1967 draft and thus acquired 16 professional players and the rights to 16 amateurs.

I could not find the names of these amateurs, but the following professionals who had contracts with the Aces played with the Flyers:

Bill Sutherland
Jean-Guy Gendron
Simon Nolet
André Lacroix
Claude LaForge
John Hanna
Ed Hoekstra

Léon Rochefort was also playing with the Aces but had a contract with the Canadiens, and was selected in the expansion draft.

Good stuff.

I kinda figured they might want to grab a few 'extra' players. You know, kids who weren't selected in 2015, who will still be playing junior next year. Toss out a few minor league contracts at potential guys, and start working on getting a farm team up and running in 2017 as well. After all, every team needs to call up a few guys every year due to injuries and such.
 

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One question I have is: how can they stop teams from just calling their defenseman a forward? Thus giving them 2 extra spaces right?

Like I could call Methot a forward right and he would be the 7th "forward" protected and we get to keep a top 6 and our top 4 in tact?
 

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