BillD
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Spot on. Klatt just another FOS (friend of Snow). They were suite mates back with the Nucks. Miserable way to hire.
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Konk
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He's a bit of both. He drives to the net hard and plays a power game. He's usually around the net on power plays looking for tip-ins or rebounds to clean up. He also has a really hard shot and a quick release, so he can snipe it too.
The one thing Kieffer has head and shoulders over Dal Colle is drive and tenacity. He plays with an edge and you don't need to worry about his work ethic. His skating is also not a concern. I really don't have any doubts about his ability to have an NHL career, he has pro written all over him.
Here is a scouting report: https://thehockeywriters.com/ben-mirageas-2017-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
Strengths
- Skating
- Size
- Maintaining poise
- Vision
NHL coaches gain confidence in young blueliners who consistently make the “safe play” and limit miscues. Mirageas will need to work hard on his game over the next few seasons, but insiders contend he will develop into a top-6 defenseman.
Risk-Reward Analysis
- Risk – 3/5, Reward 4/5
- Offense – 7/10, Defense – 7/10
It was bound to happen. I believe he leads AHL d-men in shots on goal and is top 10 among all skaters.
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I appreciate the scouting report.Thanks.
I have read Bellows is determined to make next season's roster.
Konk
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I think he would benefit from a year in the AHL. I don't see him taking a top 9 position next season and with Lee, Ladd, and Nelson ahead on the depth chart he'd be relegated to 4th line minutes. That would not be a good role for him, although he could crash and bang with Cizikas and Butterstuff. I think everyone would benefit most if he spent a year in the AHL prior to joining the Islanders.
BelovedIsles
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Yeah thanks for the scouting report. We don’t have many snipers w an edge; I guess you could call Ladd one. But we can do better.
How does he compare to fellow WHL ‘power forward’ Nino? I think he’s projected to score more goals.
How does he compare to fellow WHL ‘power forward’ Nino? I think he’s projected to score more goals.
Just think, we could've came away with Clutterbuck and Buchnevich. THAT's what pissed me off about that trade, if you can come away with someone almost as good a prospect as Nino (or may surpass him) AND Clutterbuck, that's who you select. Would've been a definite win. Instead they picked Macadam (the goalie). So you wind up with Macadam and Clutter for Nino.
Garth has made some good trades and bad ones. I praised him for the Reinhart trade even before I knew anything about Barzal. Now that trade looks like a huge steal. The Nino trade bothered me at the time a lot as I thought it was really bad value for a top 5 pick and someone who had a really good season in the AHL.
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Yeah its time to move on. This gets brought up way too often. Nino may never of had the same success here.
I've forgotten about it for the most part. When I watched Nino score against the devils last night it brought back bad memories lol
ekill08x
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I know it does stink looking back at it but whatever Anders Lee turned out to be our Nino, and he scores more....i guess it would be awesome to have both.
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Could not disagree more, that getting a crap return for Nino is okay because we have Lee.
That top 5 pick was a wasted asset.
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Every person in America builds a resume with their actions at their respective job. To ignore how snow handled the Nino situation across the board is to ignore what other blunders he could make going forward.
I'll forget about the Nino situation when snow is gone and I don't have to worry about him doing something similar the keeps the Cup always out of reach.
WinhallVT124
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Wasn't there a rumor of Nino + being dealt to Vancouver for Cory Schneider floating around one time? See that would've been acceptable.
Yes but I believe Vancouver wanted Nino and a 1st or something like that. Snow wanted to do a one for one (like how the deal turned out to be).
Didn't they also spend another third rounder on taylor cammarata that year? bad 3rd round while there was lots of talent available.
Skip To My Lou
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Has anyone see Kieffer play? If so, can they summarize what they've seen from him?
I always seemed intrigued by him, but his skating concerned me, similar to Dal Colle.
Yes, he had a very disappointing year in the NCAA so it was a smart move for him to get the heck out of there and get more ice time in the WHL. Bellows is a bull with a sick release wrister and good hands in tight. He would be a perfect fit alongside Barzal as he loves to shoot the puck from anywhere and often. He's averaging 5 shots on goal per game this year in Portland. Not a very creative player, but has good hockey IQ and is definitely not passive like Dal Colle. Niederreiter would be a good comparison IMO.
Islanders4Cups
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Yeah. Move on from Nino already. A lot of water under the bridge since 2013.
Should the organization have done more in recognizing a future star? Sure given where they were during their rebuild. but remember, the kid played 55 games, had 1 goal -29 on the 4th line and struggled to fit. Its not like they traded Pat Lafontaine
I think the organization learned from this mistake with how they handle their prospects. Neiderreiter needed more playing time with top 6 players.
Prime example is taking it slow with Barzal last season returning him to the Juniors and easing Ho Sang along here and not dumping them on the 4th line too early.
They got a serviceable player and team leader in Cal Clutterback that fills a role of leading the team in hits, which is severely lacking here.
Yes, they lost the trade, a hundred times but won many others if all you are here to do is continue to blame Snow for all your happiness. I am sure that not one player in that lockerroom is worried about the Nino Neiderreiter trade back in 2013. The organization is trying to establish a new Path.
Many of us as fans haven't forgotten, but have moved on.
Watch how Ho Sang, Dal Colle, Bellows etc.
Should the organization have done more in recognizing a future star? Sure given where they were during their rebuild. but remember, the kid played 55 games, had 1 goal -29 on the 4th line and struggled to fit. Its not like they traded Pat Lafontaine
I think the organization learned from this mistake with how they handle their prospects. Neiderreiter needed more playing time with top 6 players.
Prime example is taking it slow with Barzal last season returning him to the Juniors and easing Ho Sang along here and not dumping them on the 4th line too early.
They got a serviceable player and team leader in Cal Clutterback that fills a role of leading the team in hits, which is severely lacking here.
Yes, they lost the trade, a hundred times but won many others if all you are here to do is continue to blame Snow for all your happiness. I am sure that not one player in that lockerroom is worried about the Nino Neiderreiter trade back in 2013. The organization is trying to establish a new Path.
Many of us as fans haven't forgotten, but have moved on.
Watch how Ho Sang, Dal Colle, Bellows etc.
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