Confirmed with Link: Isles Officially Name Doug Weight as Head Coach

IslandersFan17

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Absolutely awful. How do you not at least do sone due diligence? At least interview some of the candidiates out there.

This same thing happened with Capuano when he took over as intrem.

Fan and player support was heavily in his corner.
 

Mr Misunderstood

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Not sure if this means Snow stays. If it did Staple probably would have said it.

Say he Garth is gone, are you comfortable with bringing in a new GM and telling him that Doug Weight is your coach and if you don't want/like him, too bad?

I'm okay with it if a President is brought in to oversee Garth and Weight. Oh and a friggin' PP specialist
 

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Weight pros:
-Team turned around a lost season
-Lee had a career year with and without JT
-Ladd turned around 180 degrees
-Kids got to play
-JHS thrived
-We had a coach who sounded like he knew what he was doing and looked like he cared (a minor thing, but a troubling one with Flintstone)

Weight cons:
-PP was still awful
-We still had late collapses (just less of them)
-We came up short in big games (minus the final six, when we did everything we needed to with the season on the line)
 

gordie43

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I like weight, but the 3 for 23 power play to end the season still does not sit well with me.
 

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Say he Garth is gone, are you comfortable with bringing in a new GM and telling him that Doug Weight is your coach and if you don't want/like him, too bad?

I'm okay with it if a President is brought in to oversee Garth and Weight. Oh and a friggin' PP specialist

I really don't think this would be a big deal. Just give him a full year, I don't think an incoming replacement GM would have an issue with this.
 

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Weight pros:
-Team turned around a lost season
-Lee had a career year with and without JT
-Ladd turned around 180 degrees
-Kids got to play
-JHS thrived
-We had a coach who sounded like he knew what he was doing and looked like he cared (a minor thing, but a troubling one with Flintstone)

Weight cons:
-PP was still awful
-We still had late collapses (just less of them)
-We came up short in big games (minus the final six, when we did everything we needed to with the season on the line)
- Lee had something like 1 goal in his first 18 games. The start was awfully slow for a guy with his ability. Wouldnt really thank weight for the turn around.

- Ladd was hurt at the start of the year. Did Weight Mr. Miogy his back and make him all better?

- JHS was almost responsible for this team turning it around. The kid was a huge shot in the arm. However, the kid played his brand and I don't see how much Weight played into that. Because if you want to give him credit here, then it's on him as to why Pulock wasn't up.

As far as playing the kids, this I agree with, but at that point, we were a bottom feeding team. There is absolutely no excuses not to at least go with the youth.
 

IslesRock4

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I'm OK with Weight, especially if it helps our chances at re-signing Tavares.

Can't believe Snow is the 4th longest tenured GM in the league, and only one playoff series win to show for it - one that wouldn't have happened if Tavares and Greiss weren't playing on absolute elite levels. Sickening that he gets a pass every year.
 

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Shocking to me they are filling positions in reverse order. Usually you fill these positions from the top down.

Weight earned it and the players played hard for him but tieing the hands of a new brass is not normal. Wonder if this all about JT?
 

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I'm ok with Weight, he did a good job, though that little slump cost us the playoffs. But 24-12-4 is pretty good, and if he can duplicate that over a full season we will be in the playoffs. That being said, it probably means we are stuck with Snowjob as well which is horrible news.
 

IslandersFan17

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Shocking to me they are filling positions in reverse order. Usually you fill these positions from the top down.

Weight earned it and the players played hard for him but toeing the hands of a new brass is not normal. Wonder if this all about JT?
Once you see people justifying the hire because JT endorsed it...

Remember how much JT stood by Cappy? Especially after being fired?

This means to me, either people are desperate enough to think this is what will tip the scales in retaining Tavares.

Or need to hear it as a way to wash down down Weight being named HC.
 

Le Grec

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I'm fine with Weight as coach...

I just wish they give him better assistants...
 

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Doug Weight becoming full time head coach improves our odds of signing Tavares, IMO. Also, with Bellmont looking more and more realistic that must be music to Tavares' ears (I know it's music to my ears LOL)
 

isles31

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bad move. and of course Snow is going nowhere, a new GM would want the option of bringing in his own guy.

Really difficult to say this is a bad move when the team put up 52 pts in 40 games for him. I know the grass is always greener, but the team really did play well for him and he isn't afraid to play the kids.
 

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I'm okay with weight coming back for the year. A lot of players praised him. I think this means Snow is still GM but could still have a Pres. in the works to oversea. REALLY need new assistants to get special teams on track. The PP is not good, and PK is okay but needs to be better to compete deep the playoffs
 

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What I like about Weight is his handling of the younger players. I'd rather have him than a proven name that treats the kids like Crappy did.
 

A Pointed Stick

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I'm sure he'll get it right this time. How's that powerplay?

The definition of insanity. Weight has zero coaching experience anywhere except what he learned under Capuano. If you haven't spent any time thinking about that, consider also that he failed as the powerplay coach which was his one coaching resume item before becoming HC. I see many lauding the W/L's under Weight, but is that what the sum of the parts equal? Not from a reasoned perspective. Weight inherited a club out of the playoff picture. Most of us lived this club playing better once out of the playoff picture before under Capuano. Then when they got closer and the games mattered more they lost. That seems more likely here based on our history.

And so the torture goes on as an Islander fan. Five more years of Snow. Yeah.
 
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IslandersFan17

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Doug Weight becoming full time head coach improves our odds of signing Tavares, IMO. Also, with Bellmont looking more and more realistic that must be music to Tavares' ears (I know it's music to my ears LOL)

In what way does making Weight HC bolster the odds?

If we flop again next year, you think tavares will be okay with it because his pal is HC?

JT absolutely loved Cappy. We heard for years, while more speculative than anything that Cappy was safe because Tavares supported him.

Burnside had said that Weight being put in as the intrem might have had something to do with Tavares.

However, again, they have to sell Tavares on what is going to change for the better here.

How can that be done when we have the same exact culture?
 

SDIsles34

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This is the only move. You can't walk away from the success this team had in the second half of the season. However, it's extremely frustrating that the Islanders are seemingly incapable of hiring a head coach with experience. It hasn't happened in the Snow era (Ted Nolan was already in place).
 

SDIsles34

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This is the only move. You can't walk away from the success this team had in the second half of the season. However, it's extremely frustrating that the Islanders are seemingly incapable of hiring a head coach with experience. It hasn't happened in the Snow era (Ted Nolan was already in place).

How's this?

"Last 10 head coaches in #Isles history (dates back to 1999), 1 of them was hired w/ previous HC experience.. Ted Nolan was 10 years removed from Sabres job"
 

A Pointed Stick

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This is the only move. You can't walk away from the success this team had in the second half of the season. However, it's extremely frustrating that the Islanders are seemingly incapable of hiring a head coach with experience. It hasn't happened in the Snow era (Ted Nolan was already in place).

All you need to know about this insufferable organization under Snow, right there in the bold.
 

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In what way does making Weight HC bolster the odds?

If we flop again next year, you think tavares will be okay with it because his pal is HC?

JT absolutely loved Cappy. We heard for years, while more speculative than anything that Cappy was safe because Tavares supported him.

Burnside had said that Weight being put in as the intrem might have had something to do with Tavares.

However, again, they have to sell Tavares on what is going to change for the better here.

How can that be done when we have the same exact culture?

I can assure you that JT respects Doug Weight way more than Cappy. They played together when Tavares was a rookie, he looks up to him. They have a great relationship.

Check this article out.

I would say Weight staying helps the odds.
 

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