Is it time to blow the team up and rebuild?

[CristianoRonaldo]

Finish dead last this year and keep the core, draft one of Dahlin Boqvist Svechnikov or Tkachuk and honestly we would be good to go next year.

Won't happen, we are too good to tank and too bad to win the Stanley Cup, we are stuck with 20-25 draft pick until Price is injured for a long period (and we replace him with Montoya) or done.

 

[1909]

Habs are now stucked with Price's contract.

The guy will be (is) untradable !!!

 

[yianik]

He consults for Nashville now. Seriously.

That's awesome. It really is.

If the kid had only given it a thumbs up he'd have a 5 year extension with us though. Can't have enough yes men apparently.

 

[Harpo]

I was kind of optimistic with the Drouin trade. We were going for it.

Then we lost Radulov, then Markov.

The time was now, but we'll be mediocre for the next few years. We won't be bottom feeders, because Price, Weber and Drouin are excellent to elite players. But we don't have any elite prospects, so yeah, we're not shooting for the stars here.

That's the worst of both worlds. We're what the Leafs were.

 

[Brainiac]

That's the worst of both worlds. We're what the Leafs were.

I must have missed that? When was the last time the Leafs were lining up 100 pts. seasons and division titles?

I'm not saying we're doing good, but we're nothing like what the Leafs were.

 

[Miller Time]

I must have missed that? When was the last time the Leafs were lining up 100 pts. seasons and division titles?

I'm not saying we're doing good, but we're nothing like what the Leafs were.

from 98-2004, they were a consistent 95-100 point team(1 year at 90, but still advanced in the playoffs), making it out of the 1st round all but once, and twice hitting the conference finals. That was a solid run, but, always just below being a true contender.

iirc, their big crash from 2005-2015 was in large part fuelled by exactly the kind of asset mismanagment that MB has been engaged in by chasing regular season success and sacrificing long term strategic building for short-term stop gap decisions and relying on existing, aging talent (Sundin, Joseph, Roberts).

If anything, that's what is so troubling about our recent "run" and current state. Like those leafs, whom i'm sure many fans defended because of the 100 pt seasons, we aren't focused on building a winner, just on getting to the playoffs. And like the leafs, is this poor approach is allowed to continue, we'll end up falling off of a cliff that could take a decade to work ourselves out of.

 

[Brainiac]

from 98-2004, they were a consistent 95-100 point team

OK, I thought we were compairing the current Habs with the Leafs post 2004 lockout.

 

[Compile]

Way to encourage a rational dialog. They're called OPINIONS. You don't have to agree with what the guy said but neither are you obligated to act like an 8-year old.

Why don't you practice being an adult once in awhile?

I don't know how to respond to this comment as nothing I said was "8-year old" like. Maybe you need to pick up a dictionary and look up 2 words. 1) Asinine and 2)Hypocrit, as it's quiet obvious you have no idea what #1 means, which leads to #2 when your entire comment is a contradiction.

Is that adult enough for you my Lord?

 

[Hockeyholic]

I was kind of optimistic with the Drouin trade. We were going for it.

Then we lost Radulov, then Markov.

The time was now, but we'll be mediocre for the next few years. We won't be bottom feeders, because Price, Weber and Drouin are excellent to elite players. But we don't have any elite prospects, so yeah, we're not shooting for the stars here.

That's the worst of both worlds. We're what the Leafs were.

So much this. They are in sports purtagatory: Not good enough to win a championship; not bad enough to collect picks.

 

[sergejean]

Habs are now stucked with Price's contract.

The guy will be (is) untradable !!!

I don't agree. Price can be traded. We just need to take back another big contract in exchange. Byfuglien in Winnipeg would be a good example. Since we'd be rebuilding anyway, we shouldn't really care taking back bad contracts if in the process we're snagging 1st & 2nd rounders.

 

[Genesis76]

If we only traded Pacioretty and made Subban the Captain we wouldn't be here again.

This team looks like the Toronto Mapple Leafs post-Sundin area.

 

[bipolarhabfan]

This team is in no-mans land. They have a bunch of aging stars and have made some horrendus personel decisions along the way. There is no one in the minors who can help right now. It does not look very good.

They need a major rebuild. I just dont see MB and Timmins as the right people for the job. Time to accumulate draft picks and trade some vets.

Btw, so fed up with the organization not giving room for young players to develop. They always favour vets and are so conservative when it comes to allowing young players to play.

 

[Belial]

This team is in no-mans land. They have a bunch of aging stars and have made some horrendus personel decisions along the way. There is no one in the minors who can help right now. It does not look very good.

They need a major rebuild. I just dont see MB and Timmins as the right people for the job. Time to accumulate draft picks and trade some vets.

Btw, so fed up with the organization not giving room for young players to develop. They always favour vets and are so conservative when it comes to allowing young players to play.

A freaking 19 year old 4th round pick is playing on the first pair of our D and you come up with this comment??? What in the world?

 

[groovejuice]

A freaking 19 year old 4th round pick is playing on the first pair of our D and you come up with this comment??? What in the world?

Do you not find it troubling that the team has to resort to an unproven teenage player to play #1B because the off season acquisitions are so mediocre?

 

[76]

Poor fans in complete panic mode

 

[mariolemieux66]

Poor fans in complete panic mode

Poor fans hoping /thinking this team as even the slightest chance to win anything.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Won't happen, we are too good to tank and too bad to win the Stanley Cup, we are stuck with 20-25 draft pick until Price is injured for a long period (and we replace him with Montoya) or done.

I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think we’ll tank even with Price healthy. He hasn’t looked super sharp early either. This team is just bad. It’s probably best for this franchise that we don’t sell out games because that’s affecting business and that’s the only thing that’ll open Molsons eyes, which have been shut for atleast two years now.

 

[76]

Do you not find it troubling that the team has to resort to an unproven teenage player to play #1B because the off season acquisitions are so mediocre?

Mete didn't steal his job, he is NHL level and deserves to be where he is. What's the problem? Some still whine that Habs never give chance to young players, which is total bs. Why aren't you happy instead about having a 19yo making the team, able to play along Weber?

 

[76]

Poor fans hoping /thinking this team as even the slightest chance to win anything.

It's a long season, just four games in. But yeah, I guess it's better to whine everyday about everything Mario. Keep it up.

 

[Habsawce]

Just think of all the extra free time we'll have this winter!

 

[Harry22]

It's a long season, just four games in. But yeah, I guess it's better to whine everyday about everything Mario. Keep it up.

Again what’s your goal here? Be Cup contenders or playoff contenders? This team is nowhere close to being a Cup contender and won’t be with the current management in place.

 

[Frozenice]

This team is in no-mans land. They have a bunch of aging stars and have made some horrendus personel decisions along the way. There is no one in the minors who can help right now. It does not look very good.

They need a major rebuild. I just dont see MB and Timmins as the right people for the job. Time to accumulate draft picks and trade some vets.

Btw, so fed up with the organization not giving room for young players to develop. They always favour vets and are so conservative when it comes to allowing young players to play.

This team needed a rebuild from Day 1 of MB's tenure, the only thing he did was put it off and let the team's fortunes (or lack of) exhaust themselves of their own accord. Maybe we would of accomplished a bit more with a better hand behind the wheel but I doubt our situation would be that much different.

 

[groovejuice]

Mete didn't steal his job, he is NHL level and deserves to be where he is. What's the problem? Some still whine that Habs never give chance to young players, which is total bs. Why aren't you happy instead about having a 19yo making the team, able to play along Weber?

I'm happy Mete is a good player. Who the hell isn't? My point is that we needed to rely on Mete making the team to have anything near a partner for Weber. That demonstrates pitiful foresight, acquisition and analysis by Bergevin.

 

[HabsForHire]

It's a long season, just four games in. But yeah, I guess it's better to whine everyday about everything Mario. Keep it up.

i wish i had your optimism but you need to open your eyes, this team is garbage and "IF" they make the playoffs they will be bounced first round. Leading to a fantastic 25 overall pick. sorry but we need a lot higher a pick to start to fix this team

 

[bipolarhabfan]

A freaking 19 year old 4th round pick is playing on the first pair of our D and you come up with this comment??? What in the world?

More out of desperation than anything else. By game 20 to 25 when the big boys find their grove he will be overmatched.