"if you could" Swap Weiss for another #2C

[Winger98]

I like Pavelski, but I'd take Backes over him without hesitating. I always saw him as the Blues' #1 center, though. Not sure how well he fits this swap idea.

Right now, though, I think any answer that involves a healthy and productive center would be a positive move.

 

[detredWINgs]

you don't think bergeron or backes could handle that?

Didn't see them. Was speaking more to the Stepan/Filppula/Grabo suggestions.

I consider them to be 1Bs anyways...

 

[detredWINgs]

This right here was no need for either of the moves!!!

I don't get this.

Filppula played 7 full seasons for the Wings. He averaged less than .5 pp/g in 6/7 seasons. Even if you take out his first 2 full seasons as a Red Wing, he averaged less than 40 points in 4/5 seasons with the Wings. He's now nearly 30 years old. Its not like we lost him before he broke out.

It'd be like people wanting Quincey back if he suddenly returned to his LA/Colorado form once he went to another team.

 

[14ari13]

He looked really bad when he was healthy, though. Unless we're assuming that he came to training camp with a groin injury that has bothered him all year, which I don't think is the case.

He's overdue to turn his game around, but so is Quincey. Not holding my breath on that one either.

I do not know about Quincey, I assume he is what he is and I do not think he is going to get better under Babcock.
Weiss on the other hand can't be any worse. He has to be better.

 

[Spitfire11]

A better question would be which #2 C would you not swap Weiss for?

Answer is probably none, sadly

 

[internetdotcom]

As a Sens fan, I'm shocked that there has been no mention of Turris in this thread. He is producing at a great pace, and makes significantly less than Weiss, and has been very durable for us too.

Unless you are considering Turris to be our 1C over Spezza, which, just looking at the numbers, I can see, though Spezza is often the one that draws top D pairings and shutdown lines, and has had far inferior linemates to Turris.

 

[Johnz96*]

As a Sens fan, I'm shocked that there has been no mention of Turris in this thread. He is producing at a great pace, and makes significantly less than Weiss, and has been very durable for us too.

Unless you are considering Turris to be our 1C over Spezza, which, just looking at the numbers, I can see, though Spezza is often the one that draws top D pairings and shutdown lines, and has had far inferior linemates to Turris.

He's good and I would love to do that swap if you're interested but he ain't no Backes.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Franzen is a exellent 2C.

 

[InjuredChoker]

As a Sens fan, I'm shocked that there has been no mention of Turris in this thread. He is producing at a great pace, and makes significantly less than Weiss, and has been very durable for us too.

Unless you are considering Turris to be our 1C over Spezza, which, just looking at the numbers, I can see, though Spezza is often the one that draws top D pairings and shutdown lines, and has had far inferior linemates to Turris.

your kid isn't that well known.. yet.

 

[RedWingzz]

I know Filppula makes 100,000 more than Weiss, but I really do miss Fil. We shoud have just gave him the 5 mil he wanted. He'd be thriving this year considering all the injuries.

Stepan/Grabovski would be nice.

 

[Flowah]

I know Filppula makes 100,000 more than Weiss, but I really do miss Fil. We shoud have just gave him the 5 mil he wanted. He'd be thriving this year considering all the injuries.

Stepan/Grabovski would be nice.

By most accounts he also just wanted a change of scenery. Which we could not give him.

 

[Johnz96*]

I know Filppula makes 100,000 more than Weiss, but I really do miss Fil. We shoud have just gave him the 5 mil he wanted. He'd be thriving this year considering all the injuries.

Stepan/Grabovski would be nice.

Apparently we did. He wanted out. He felt he could contribute so much more elsewhere.

 

[Winger98]

As a Sens fan, I'm shocked that there has been no mention of Turris in this thread. He is producing at a great pace, and makes significantly less than Weiss, and has been very durable for us too.

Unless you are considering Turris to be our 1C over Spezza, which, just looking at the numbers, I can see, though Spezza is often the one that draws top D pairings and shutdown lines, and has had far inferior linemates to Turris.

I counted him as a 1C because he gets a bit more IT.

 

[Frk It]

. Its not like we lost him before he broke out.

He did break out before we lost him. Unless we want to act line 11-12 never happened. But if 11-12 never happened Tampa wouldn't have given him 5 million dollars.

It'd be like people wanting Quincey back if he suddenly returned to his LA/Colorado form once he went to another team.

Terrible comparison.

 

[internetdotcom]

He's good and I would love to do that swap if you're interested but he ain't no Backes.

LOL No thanks, I think we'll keep him. And Backes is a good player, but I wouldn't swap Turris for him. Plus, Turris has one of the best contracts in the league.

your kid isn't that well known.. yet.

I wish that would stay the case, but unfortunately the Turris-MacArthur-Ryan line is drawing top checkers more and more often. But thats ok, frees up more space/easier competition for Spezza.

I counted him as a 1C because he gets a bit more IT.

Fair enough.

 

[RoyalDoubleMcCheesie]

What about David Bolland or maybe even Paul Stastny?

 

[Johnz96*]

LOL No thanks, I think we'll keep him. And Backes is a good player, but I wouldn't swap Turris for him. Plus, Turris has one of the best contracts in the league.



I wish that would stay the case, but unfortunately the Turris-MacArthur-Ryan line is drawing top checkers more and more often. But thats ok, frees up more space/easier competition for Spezza.



Fair enough.

You sure?

 

[Goalie guy]

I don't get this.

Filppula played 7 full seasons for the Wings. He averaged less than .5 pp/g in 6/7 seasons. Even if you take out his first 2 full seasons as a Red Wing, he averaged less than 40 points in 4/5 seasons with the Wings. He's now nearly 30 years old. Its not like we lost him before he broke out.

It'd be like people wanting Quincey back if he suddenly returned to his LA/Colorado form once he went to another team.

What is not to get? We have a 2c that has not played, saying that what he done when was on the ice was playing is a lie. I would rather have Fill playing than Weiss not playing. That is what to git out of it. And to compare Fill to KQ is a insult to Fill!!!

 

[Johnz96*]

I don't get this.

Filppula played 7 full seasons for the Wings. He averaged less than .5 pp/g in 6/7 seasons. Even if you take out his first 2 full seasons as a Red Wing, he averaged less than 40 points in 4/5 seasons with the Wings. He's now nearly 30 years old. Its not like we lost him before he broke out.

It'd be like people wanting Quincey back if he suddenly returned to his LA/Colorado form once he went to another team.

But he was capable of so much more. In knew it, he knew it. That's why he left.
Nyquist and Tatar are also capable of so much more.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Malkin.

 

[internetdotcom]

You sure?

Quite positive, yes. He has really turned into a great 2-way player, and his chemistry with MacArthur and Ryan is excellent.

 

[Marky9er]

Quite positive, yes. He has really turned into a great 2-way player, and his chemistry with MacArthur and Ryan is excellent.

I wanted Turris before he was traded, still wish we had done that. Would have been hard to outbid the Sens, it was a steep price(at the time, looks great now tho doesn't it?). I'd have to put him near the top of my list. Backes would always be welcome on my team, too. We desperately need a player like that.

 

[drw02]

Malkin, Pavelski, Kesler, Stepan, Bergy off the top of my head

EDIT: sorry, didn't see the cap hit note. I would take Bergy, Pavelski and Stepan all over Weiss. Kesler is a shade over Weiss but I would take him also.

Kesler a shade over Weiss? Weiss isn't even remotely close to the all around player Kesler is.

 

[detredWINgs]

What is not to get? We have a 2c that has not played, saying that what he done when was on the ice was playing is a lie. I would rather have Fill playing than Weiss not playing. That is what to git out of it. And to compare Fill to KQ is a insult to Fill!!!

The point is, in this fantasy thread, you have every 2C to choose from and you pick Filppula? Ok.

 

[SoupNazi]

Kesler a shade over Weiss? Weiss isn't even remotely close to the all around player Kesler is.

I think he means in cap hit.