If the kings traded for a forward at the deadline

[Tookey98]

I wouldn't trade for a forward. I like the team and most importantly, it looks like the team likes the team. Inserting a Cammy doesn't fit with the Kings' MO. He's not going to grind it out, he's not going to backcheck, and he's not going to be part of what I was referring to during the 2012 run as "the meatgrinder." That's what the Kings are, a wave upon wave of big, defensively responsible bodies who wear you down and pot goals by committee. They are a system that has incredibly talented players who augment what is already there by using their talents for the system first. That's why we don't have PP "specialists" on this team. Everybody can take a regular shift. They're remembering who and what they are right now since Quick went down and when he comes back and gets his feet under him (I am expecting rust), other teams will be scared. The only team that comes close to playing us like us is St. Louis which is why last year was so bad. That first series was a war that would have taken St. Louis out of the long run had they won. The Kings are not a team you add parts to because the parts have stats on lesser teams. You only add a King to this team if he fits all of the intangibles first and contributes to the statistical hole you need filled. Those players are rare and not usually available at the deadline. I suspect we go with what we have and love the ride.

Wow I would like to cut and copy this extremely well said even no I think we could add a upgrade the proof is there the kings are a great team ps I'm cheering for team Canada but I really want Kopi to win some games

 

[redcard]

My money's on Moulson.

Buffalo ain't going anywhere and may be looking to get something for him as an extension of the Vanek trade rather than a few more games out of a guy that'll be testing the market in July.

Lower risk for us as we've got a decent chance at re-signing him due to the Quick connection.

 

[LAKings88]

My money's on Moulson.

Buffalo ain't going anywhere and may be looking to get something for him as an extension of the Vanek trade rather than a few more games out of a guy that'll be testing the market in July.

Lower risk for us as we've got a decent chance at re-signing him due to the Quick connection.

This, at the right price.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

to me if we re going to go out and get someone I like steve ott. He plays phyical can score and is a leader in the dressing room . To me hes the right fit

 

[johnjm22]

It would require a 1st and toff to much I think

No it wouldn't.

We already know Cammalleri's value because he's been traded before.

A younger version of him, that was a year removed from and 80 point season, with a better contract situation, got just a 1st. He's not all the sudden going to get a 1st plus a near elite prospect.

 

[KingKopitar11*]

Yeah let's stick to the western conference, nothing against Moulson but he plays for the east so who knows how he will plays in the west.

Cammy would be good to have back.

 

[Ewan McGregor*]

If he's cheap enough, Michalek from Ottawa is an option I'd try (assuming they're out of the playoffs).

 

[MynameisKing]

I agree with T2M. Its very hard for anyone outside our organization to "fit" into our system. Cammy may have the inside track on chemistry on the offensive side because he played with Kopi and Brown before but he is not the right "fit" for our system. Everybody in our lineup can hit or take hits to make a play, and are comfortable and excel in that type of game. Everybody in our lineup is committed to defense first. Not sure if anyone out there that fits the mold that is available with enough talent to overcome our "system" and excel. We have had a pretty good track record with going with our homegrown talent than going out via the trade route. Carter is the only one that comes to mind that was a complete success at the deadline.

 

[DapperDan]

If Toronto is out of it, I'd consider Mason Raymond. He's a bit soft and not as strong on the puck as Sutter may like but he's damn fast and is a skilled LW. Something to think about if depth scoring becomes an issue...

 

[HolyShot*]

Hartnell would be a good fit. Got that philly connection also.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Hartnell would be a good fit. Got that philly connection also.

That horrendous contract would nix any possibility of him coming here though, I would think.

For those of you saying Cammalleri won't be a good "fit" for this team, I don't know why you would think that. Montreal wasn't necessarily a run-and-gun hockey club when he was leading them offensively. In 2009-10, when Cammalleri went on a scoring rampage with 13 goals in 19 playoff games, the Habs ranked 23rd in the league on offense and 12th defensively. The Kings surprisingly ranked 7th in the league offensively and 10th defensively. Those Habs, led by Cammalleri on offense, eliminated the heavily favored Capitals and Penguins in a hard fought 7 game series.

I think some of you are over thinking and over analyzing what Cammalleri can or can't do. He's not like some lazy hockey player who doesn't fight for the puck. What would you guys categorize Luc Robitaille as? Or Ziggy Palffy? Were they known for their defensive awareness and backchecking? Of course not, but you damn sure knew that those guys would work their tails off to get the puck and to make sure they spent as much time as possible in the offensive zone until they scored a goal or at the very least came close to scoring one.

When one or two of your top players who are counted upon to provide offense go on a dry spell, you need others to step up. Look at how much it hurt the Kings last year in the playoffs when they had numerous failed attempts on the powerplay and Kopitar and Brown were coming up flat offensively. Sometimes you need a player out there who can get some creative juices flowing and Cammalleri is that player. To me, guys like Moulson or Vanek are bigger risks. Look at how they haven't fit in their new environments. It's not as if the Kings would be bringing in some outsider who isn't familiar with the organization.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

to me if we re going to go out and get someone I like steve ott. He plays phyical can score and is a leader in the dressing room . To me hes the right fit

No thanks. He would cost quite a bit, and his high in goals over the last three years is 12. Going back from 09-10 through today, he scores goals at a Jarrett Stoll pace, yuck. Also, between Richards, Brown, Mitchell, Greene, etc, the Kings aren't exactly lacking leaders in the dressing room. There are two things this team needs going into the future, a scoring LW, and a long term partner for Doughty

Yeah let's stick to the western conference, nothing against Moulson but he plays for the east so who knows how he will plays in the west.

Cammy would be good to have back.

Richards and Carter spent the majority of their careers in the Eastern conference...

Hartnell would be a good fit. Got that philly connection also.

That contract is abysmal, they would love to unload it, no thanks

 

[Trolfoli]

Sorry for being the bringer of bad news. The LW situation may be as good as it's going to get.

Cap: With Greene coming back the Kings are right at the cap. So I'm not sure how much extra cap space they'll have at the deadline.


Clearing space.

Trade Greene (depth on D not great with him gone)

Williams/Stoll? They're playing great with Brown right now.

Don't see either of those as options to bring in an unknown player.

Just don't see many options at this point limited by cap and what the Kings have to trade (without crippling the team) that will get a deal done.

TT goes nowhere for any rental. Anyone remember how he played in last years playoffs. Only way TT is going anywhere is if a top 6 player is coming back for 5+ years min. Even then that player better be the ****!

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Jagr is like and older slower Dwight King.

Yes Dwight King out scored Jagr in last years playoffs.

Jagr doesn't have a playoff goal since 2011-2012 with Philly.

Hell Trevor Lewis has more playoff goals then Jagr in the last 2 years.

Kings have enough guys that have trouble scoring.

Jagr an older slower Dwight King ? I believe I've seen it al now.

Aside from scoring, imagine Jagr with the puck on his stick in the offfensive zone. I think the Kings could do some damage.

 

[TimbeS]

I would love Cammalleri or Moulson...

 

[deeshamrock]

Hartnell would be a good fit. Got that philly connection also.

NO he wouldn't be a good fit in any way , shape or form. As Ziggy pointed out, his contract is awful. And he's not anything that fits the Kings mold. THe best asset he has is taking bad penalties and does so on a consistent basis because so many times ,esp in his own end, he's outplayed or out of position . The Flyers gave him that ridiculous contract because of one good year during which he put up numbers based on Lavvy's awful run and gun one way hockey and moreover, because of Jagr. Jagr and Groux on that line drew all the defenders to covering them and left Hartnell with way too much open space near the net. Since then, he's done ZILCH. Not last year or this year has he added anything to this team. There are very few Flyer fans that don't want him gone and gone now.
He's just an overated inconsistent, over paid waste of space


And among the other trade rumor news Eklund posted today is that the Kings (along with Nucks and Yotes ) talking to the Isles about Vanek. And I listen to TSN podcasts at night online and have heard that same rumor (that DL is shopping for a top 6 LW before the playoffs) from various NHL analysts who ware guests on the show. He has pieces and draft picks to offer and can clear cap space by moving some. He knows this team , in order to compete with the elite in the Conf and for another CUp. need to upgrade at LW.
And he wouldn't bring in anybody who doesn't fit his mold , he's made that clear.

 

[INGLEWOOD JACK]

Moulson and Cammi are great LW options for different reasons.

I think Cammi is the best fit overall. The Kings have needed shooters for a while and his game is tested in the West. That's why Carter had such a big impact at the 2012 deadline. I think Cammi could have a similar, smaller impact. His quick mid range shot would be perfect on one of the pp units. Does DL trade for a player he traded for contract issues and once said something like "he will always be the one of the best/highest paid players on a bad team"?

Moulson may be the best long term option. Like the above posters have mentioned, the quick connection and AHL teammates makes it possible that a decent FA will actually WANT to sign in LA at market value (4+ mil range?). 2 or 3 months + a playoff run would be a great audition for Moulson to see and show mgt he's a good fit.

I think both players could be had for around a 1st. Maybe adding a mid-range prospect. It's worth the risk to add to a team like the Kings, with their Championship window open.

We need a cap expert to tell us how much pro-rated cap space the kings will have with both Carter and Quick spending time on the LTIR (teams get Cap relief for this, correct?)

 

[kings11]

since the flames need big, physical players how about clifford/frattin for cammy???

 

[Johnny Utah]

Now that Burke is running the ship he will want a big return for Cammy. That is one of there best pieces. Burke is known as a tough guy to trade with as well. He overrates players values.

 

[HYORI 1963]

If DL is open to consider Cammy back with the kings (pure speculation), then how about Heatley? We could probably get him for a lot cheaper than Cammy or Moulson. The risk/reward might be well worth it.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Kulemin would be a decent option for the right price. A good d option would be Kulikov if the flames are listening to offers.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If DL is open to consider Cammy back with the kings (pure speculation), then how about Heatley? We could probably get him for a lot cheaper than Cammy or Moulson. The risk/reward might be well worth it.

Ask Wild fans what they think of Heatley. He's pretty much done.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Ask Wild fans what they think of Heatley. He's pretty much done.

Yes, and the fans are never wrong right?

I know he's playing 4LW currently, but a change of scenery may be all that he needs.

Like I said, he could be had for cheap, but the reward could be great.

 

[go4hockey]

Wow I can't believe all the love for Cammi, we all know DL does not like him and will never bring him back onto this team. Aside from the hate of the GM he just doesn't fit in with the Kings system, I would much rather us stay as we are or maybe look at Moulson from Buffalo.

 

[go4hockey]

If DL is open to consider Cammy back with the kings (pure speculation), then how about Heatley? We could probably get him for a lot cheaper than Cammy or Moulson. The risk/reward might be well worth it.

Heatley is bad in Minn and would be useless in LA. Injuries and age have taken it till with him he is just way way to slow to be worth anything.