Confirmed with Link: Ian Cole Traded To Columbus

[BonkTastic]

I don't understand why he pulled the trigger so early

Yeah, this is a trend with this club.

Trades, contract signings.... there is no patience in this organization.

 

[Dino Tkachuk]

Couldn't get CBJ's 3rd in 2018 or 2019? Really?

Dorion's negotiating skills are nonexistent.

Why does the year matter? A 3rd is a 3rd in my opinion....

 

[pt_mck]

Cole is a ufa July 1
For a mid bottom pairing d-man I didn't expect much

 

[slamigo]

So Dorion traded Ian Cole for a 14 year old?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

What year does it ****ing matter anyways? Better to stagger them. You know... Not put all your eggs in one basket. A 3rd is a 3rd. Plus, if we have new ownership by then, we'll have a much bigger scouting team.

Exactly. A draft pick is always an asset. The year doesn't really matter that much. If we want at the draft this summer, we can flip that 3rd for one this year.

If that's the best offer he had on the table I don't understand why he pulled the trigger so early

So he doesn't waster any more time with Cole, when he likely has other deals to make in the next few hours? Can't spend all day eating the appetizers when the main dish is sitting on the counter getting cold.

 

[swiftwin]

Yeah, this is a trend with this club.

Trades, contract signings.... there is no patience in this organization.

This organization is impatient...

I don't want to wait until 2020 for our 3rd round pick...

Which one is it?

 

[Hale The Villain]

Why does the year matter? A 3rd is a 3rd in my opinion....

A 3rd in 2018 isn't worth the same as a 3rd in 2030.

A 3rd in 2020 is probably worth a 5th in 2018, given that we'd be getting a prospect that's two years further in their development, thus being closer to contributing to the team.

 

[swiftwin]

A 3rd in 2018 isn't worth the same as a 3rd in 2030.

A 3rd in 2020 is probably worth a 5th in 2018, given that we'd be getting a prospect that's two years further in their development, thus being closer to contributing to the team.

Is this a joke?

 

[BonkTastic]

So he doesn't waster any more time with Cole, when he likely has other deals to make in the next few hours? Can't spend all day eating the appetizers when the main dish is sitting on the counter getting cold.

This is why, in theory, you should have a full staff around you - as the GM, you need to triage what is important, and delegate negotiating the smaller deals to other people in the room you trust.

Asking Dorion to orchestrate like 5 or 6 trades in one day is a Herculean ask. Days like this is where our spartan front office shows the cracks in it's frame.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

So Dorion traded Ian Cole for a 14 year old?

16 year old, so its legal.

 

[Langdon Alger]

So Dorion traded Ian Cole for a 14 year old?

Roy Moore’s ears just perked up.

 

[BondraTime]

Exactly. A draft pick is always an asset. The year doesn't really matter that much. If we want at the draft thsi summer, we can flip that 3rd for one this year if we want.



So he doesn't waster any more time with Cole, when he likely has other deals to make in the next few hours? Can't spend all day eating the appetizers when the main dish is sitting on the counter getting cold.

Likely not.

Why would a team trade a 3rd with a 4/5 year NHL hopeful arrival for a 3rd with a 8/9 year hopeful arrival? Makes little sense.

And the prospect is a warm body, Dunn replacement.

 

[Korpse]

2020 3rd round pick so that by the time we are in the hunt we have extra assets to use at the trade deadline.

 

[Dino Tkachuk]

A 3rd in 2018 isn't worth the same as a 3rd in 2030.

A 3rd in 2020 is probably worth a 5th in 2018, given that we'd be getting a prospect that's two years further in their development, thus being closer to contributing to the team.

Is it now? ...and you've come to that conclusion based on what exactly?

That's ridiculous. When they are ready to contribute doesn't make them more/less valuable.

 

[agent2421]

What a joke ... this is why I don't trust Dorion to make any trades ... especially one involving Karlsson.

 

[Langdon Alger]

We traded our third to Pittsburgh this year, so it would have been nice to get one back. I am dissapoint.

 

[BonkTastic]

This organization is impatient...

I don't want to wait until 2020 for our 3rd round pick...

Which one is it?

Them acquiring a 2020 pick doesn't show patience. If that were the case, we would have demanded a 2020 1st rounder in the Brassard trade, and would be asking for 2020 1st round picks in a hypothetical Karlsson trade.

It shows an inability or unwillingness to commit fully to the trade process, and resigning themselves to taking the first deal they think is "acceptable".

 

[Theo Von]

CBJ fan here,

I’m sorry guys but Dorion has done it again. Ian Cole: a former 2 time Stanley cup defenseman, 55 playoff game experience, low cap hit, pure rental should’ve netted more than Moutrey and a 3rd. It’s almost comical.

Now, I’ve watched Cleveland play many times this year. I’ve saw Moutrey both at pro camp a few years in a row and in games for the Monsters. I was very, very high on Moutrey when he was drafted. He has solid size and strength but his skating and shot are extremely lacking. His game to the pro level hasn’t translated at all. I cannot see him ever being a NHLer and honestly not even sure he’ll ever play an NHL game. Just my two cents and being completely honest, guys.

Dorion’s future is going to rest on the Karlsson trade if/when he is traded. I really hope for your guys’ sake that you get a tremendous return. I’m a big fan of Duchene and Dzingel. Watched Dzingel many, many times when he played for Ohio State. Cheers guys!

 

[Hale The Villain]

The fact that Dorion couldn't even replace our 2018 3rd that he so graciously threw away in the "re-negotiated" Brassard deal by trading Cole is absurd.

Worse D with far less accomplished resumes returned more than Cole. Probably boils down to poor negotiating.

 

[BondraTime]

Is it now? ...and you've come to that conclusion based on what exactly?

That's ridiculous. When they are ready to contribute doesn't make them more/less valuable.

It certainly does, it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise

 

[HSF]

CBJ fan here,

I’m sorry guys but Dorion has done it again. Ian Cole: a former 2 time Stanley cup defenseman, 55 playoff game experience, low cap hit, pure rental should’ve netted more than Moutrey and a 3rd. It’s almost comical.

Now, I’ve watched Cleveland play many times this year. I’ve saw Moutrey both at pro camp a few years in a row and in games for the Monsters. I was very, very high on Moutrey when he was drafted. He has solid size and strength but his skating and shot are extremely lacking. His game to the pro level hasn’t translated at all. I cannot see him ever being a NHLer and honestly not even sure he’ll ever play an NHL game. Just my two cents and being completely honest, guys.

Dorion’s future is going to rest on the Karlsson trade if/when he is traded. I really hope for your guys’ sake that you get a tremendous return. I’m a big fan of Duchene and Dzingel. Watched Dzingel many, many times when he played for Ohio State. Cheers guys!

Wut

I think most predicted a 3rd rounder for a bottom pairing guy

 

[BonkTastic]

When they are ready to contribute doesn't make them more/less valuable.

I'll trade you your house right now for my house in 3 years.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Likely not.

Why would a team trade a 3rd with a 4/5 year NHL hopeful arrival for a 3rd with a 9/10 year arrival? Makes little sense.

Just to get the deal done. It may not be ideal, but it's still an asset. I haven't followed the Cole trade chatter, so I have no idea if any other teams wanted him or not. Perhaps there was no other interest.

 

[MiscBrah]

Odds Dorion is around to make a selection in 2020?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

CBJ fan here,

I’m sorry guys but Dorion has done it again. Ian Cole: a former 2 time Stanley cup defenseman, 55 playoff game experience, low cap hit, pure rental should’ve netted more than Moutrey and a 3rd. It’s almost comical.

Now, I’ve watched Cleveland play many times this year. I’ve saw Moutrey both at pro camp a few years in a row and in games for the Monsters. I was very, very high on Moutrey when he was drafted. He has solid size and strength but his skating and shot are extremely lacking. His game to the pro level hasn’t translated at all. I cannot see him ever being a NHLer and honestly not even sure he’ll ever play an NHL game. Just my two cents and being completely honest, guys.

Dorion’s future is going to rest on the Karlsson trade if/when he is traded. I really hope for your guys’ sake that you get a tremendous return. I’m a big fan of Duchene and Dzingel. Watched Dzingel many, many times when he played for Ohio State. Cheers guys!

Is this Moutrey kid still a decent player at the AHL level? That's probably all we wanted him for.