Confirmed with Link: Ian Cole Traded To Columbus

[BondraTime]

Ian Cole receives a paycheck for playing hockey, that's a big no no around these here parts.

Huh?

 

[topshelf15]

He will be missed

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

A big body with questionable speed, hands and shot. Is not that physical considering his size.

Sorta like Nick paul with worse skating and offense.

So serviceable bottom line AHL player at this point.

So...kinda meh. Just a warm body.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Huh?

The poster asked why we had to trade Cole. I responded that he exchanges his hockey services for cold hard cash and the Sens don't look too favorably on that. Spending $ on a hockey team is for suckers so we had to trade him.

 

[HF Reader]

Looks like they are aligning the rebuild with the new arena rebuild. Can't wait to see the team in #2025.

I believe this is exactly what is happening. Pretty well any player who doesn't fit the team at the time Lebreton comes on line is expendable.

I now view the Senators basically as an expansion team that will enter the league in about three years. A team with a head start due to players such as Chabot, Brown, etc.

Any hope of anything other then mediocrity until that time is misguided.

Sadly it has come tho this. Further, if I were Melnyk it would make perfect sense to sacrifice Karlsson to dump the $24 million or so of Ryan's contract (buyout).

 

[Daffy]

Disappointing return. No surprise... Thought this would be simple. 2020? I think he just moved him to the first taker

Teams know we need to clear salary. No team will offer us any value for our players

 

[BatherSeason]

Moutrey looks like a Randy Lee kinda player. 6'3 220 6 pts in 22 games for Cleveland... 18 pims ..

Don't forget "former CHL captain". This deal was absolutely done by Randy Lee. PR Dorion has bigger fish to fry.

 

[Sensinitis]

Why did we have to?

Because otherwise you lose him for nothing in the summer?

 

[thinkwild]

Looks like the market is flooded with available players and a lot of teams holding out to not pay a premium. In a buyers market where we could get nothing in a few hours from now, taking the offer that is out there may be all we can do. Value is only based on leverage, not what we think he is worth compared to other players. Its not like we can be a grittier negotiator or something.

 

[BondraTime]

Don't forget "former CHL captain". This deal was absolutely done by Randy Lee. PR Dorion has bigger fish to fry.

W need AHL bodies. We are likely trading guys for picks/prospects. It's a complete non-point.

There is a metric-tonne of shit to be complaining about. That's not one. That's just an agenda.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

W need AHL bodies. We are likely trading guys for picks/prospects. It's a complete non-point.

There is a metric-tonne of **** to be complaining about. That's not one. That's just an agenda.

That's a point, particularly if they can make other NHL roster moves, but the return still sucks on Cole

 

[HSF]

3rd rounder for a bottom pairing guy is good in my books

time to move on from the Cole era

 

[BondraTime]

That's a point, particularly if they can make other NHL roster moves, but the return still sucks on Cole

No doubt. I'm not pleased on his return either, but complaining about Randy Lee is foolish

 

[Samboni]

We're approaching the 11th hour of the TDL. PD took what he could get without the risk of getting stuck with him. I would have liked a 2nd but that wasn't on the table. It is what it is. Way too easy to second guess behind a laptop, especially without knowing all the facts. Move on.

 

[Langdon Alger]

3rd rounder for a bottom pairing guy is good in my books

time to move on from the Cole era

And what an era it was. All those memories. Excuse me while I dry my eyes.

 

[MiscBrah]

The biggest thing about this is we won't owe the 2020 pick a cent until then at the earliest. Who knows what would have happened if we drafted someone this year? We might have had to sign him to a contract. The horror!

 

[Gil Gunderson]

2020 lol.

 

[sexytime]

I'd love to be GM of the Sens.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I'd love to be GM of the Sens.

You also like to play Fallout 4 on "survival" difficulty don't you?

 

[BatherSeason]

That's just an agenda.

Thanks for speaking up for me and my "agenda". This is a message board, I am unhappy in the direction this organization has taken with EVERY SINGLE MOVE over the past few seasons, so I am speaking up. Randy Lee has stocked the AHL affiliate with garbage for far too long. Point is, this retuen for Cole isn't acceptable. Is it a minor move, absolutely, does HFBoards have a "Ian Cole traded to Columbus" thread, yes it does!! Therefore, I am able to post my opinion.

Also, thanks for reminding me about what I should be upset about.

 

[sexytime]

Looks like the market is flooded with available players and a lot of teams holding out to not pay a premium. In a buyers market where we could get nothing in a few hours from now, taking the offer that is out there may be all we can do. Value is only based on leverage, not what we think he is worth compared to other players. Its not like we can be a grittier negotiator or something.

I think negotiation skills extend across all industries. You don't necessarily have to be a good NHL negotiator just a competent one overall, coupled with an eye for talent. Dorion has demonstrated he knows nothing about negotiation.

 

[sexytime]

You also like to play Fallout 4 on "survival" difficulty don't you?

Video games are not my thing. Running businesses is way more interesting.

 

[Cosmix]

Is this a joke?

No. It is using time value. Think of it as similar to time value of money or EPV.

 

[swiftwin]

No. It is using time value. Think of it as similar to time value of money or EPV.

Except it's not money, there's no interest or inflation with draft picks.

 

[thinkwild]

I think negotiation skills extend across all industries. You don't necessarily have to be a good NHL negotiator just a competent one overall, coupled with an eye for talent. Dorion has demonstrated he knows nothing about negotiation.

Perhaps, but i have always been dubious about claims from fans that- oh he could have got a better deal if only he had ...

Fan ideas of good negotiation skills are equally lacking in my eyes often. But sure i wish we had got more too. But its only my anger that would leave to proclaim we didnt because of his bad negotiation skills. Its possible, but also possible its the best we could have done.