Proposal: Hughes Line Is It Anyway?: N.J. + VAN

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

See, the difference here is...

Quinn Hughes IS a 60pts d-man, he's shown he can do it last year, and again this year
Ty Smith MAY become a 60pt d-man, he hasn't shown he can do it yet.

Certainty > Potential, especially when both of them are the same age.

The difference is that 45% of his points come on the PP and he cant play defense worth a shit. He also has never scored 60 points in a season.

 

[Mersss]

The difference is that 45% of his points come on the PP and he cant play defense worth a shit. He also has never scored 60 points in a season.

What has Ty Smith done exactly?

Quinn, 64pts pace las year, again 64pts pace this year. Safe to say, he's a 60pts d-man, playing on a team that's just as bad as the NJDevils.

Until Ty Sith shows he can actually produce at a similar pace (cause Smith sucks just as much defensively), he can't snif Quinn Hughes jock.

 

[goonybird]

What has Ty Smith done exactly?

Quinn, 64pts pace las year, again 64pts pace this year. Safe to say, he's a 60pts d-man, playing on a team that's just as bad as the NJDevils.

Until Ty Sith shows he can actually produce at a similar pace (cause Smith sucks just as much defensively), he can't snif Quinn Hughes jock.

wut. I wouldn't even say Smith is bad defensively.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

What has Ty Smith done exactly?

Quinn, 64pts pace las year, again 64pts pace this year. Safe to say, he's a 60pts d-man, playing on a team that's just as bad as the NJDevils.

Until Ty Sith shows he can actually produce at a similar pace (cause Smith sucks just as much defensively), he can't snif Quinn Hughes jock.

You're solely looking at the OP's offer as Smith for Hughes and completely disregarding the fact that Zacha and 1st far outweigh the negative value of Eriksson

 

[Mersss]

You're solely looking at the OP's offer as Smith for Hughes and completely disregarding the fact that Zacha and 1st far outweigh the negative value of Eriksson

Don't get me wrong, this offer is grabage.
I was referring to the poster comparing Hughes (a 60pts+ dman a season) to Ty Smith sayibg they were comparable when they are not

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Don't get me wrong, this offer is grabage.
I was referring to the poster comparing Hughes (a 60pts+ dman a season) to Ty Smith sayibg they were comparable when they are not

I think this offer is actually quite decent value, if for some odd reason these teams ever decided to make a trade it'd probably look a little like this.... That being said, neither team would ever even dream of making this deal any time soon because their players are too valuable to their respective teams

 

[Nucker101]

What is with this sites creepy obsession of wanting to try to get brothers on the same team

I get that it’s pointless because the goal is to win games, not reunite families, but how is it creepy?

 

[canuckking1]

The difference is that 45% of his points come on the PP and he cant play defense worth a shit. He also has never scored 60 points in a season.

Still easily better than any D on that trash Sens team lol

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Still easily better than any D on that trash Sens team lol

You must’ve been enraged to get shut out against this trash sens team just a few days ago. Chabot is easily better and can actually play defense.

 

[flashsabre]

Vancouver fans run for the hills if the Devils draft Luke Hughes! The awful trade proposals will come fast and furious from NJ fans, probably always a variation of the same 3 pieces your team is not interested in. Thus is the HFboards way!!

 

[canuckking1]

You must’ve been enraged to get shut out against this trash sens team just a few days ago. Chabot is easily better and can actually play defense.

Chabot can play defence? Is there another Chabot in the NHL and not the one who’s a career minus -60?

 

[My3Sons]

Vancouver fans run for the hills if the Devils draft Luke Hughes! The awful trade proposals will come fast and furious from NJ fans, probably always a variation of the same 3 pieces your team is not interested in. Thus is the HFboards way!!

As a NJ fan I wouldn’t want Quinn if the team already had Luke. That’s essentially turning your team and your salary cap over to them.

 

[Perennial]

As a NJ fan I wouldn’t want Quinn if the team already had Luke. That’s essentially turning your team and your salary cap over to them.

Assuming they all like each other, they might take a discount to play together...

Otherwise, New Jersey could just threaten to trade them all to separate teams if they don't fall in line


I'm obviously joking about threatening to trade them, but I do think it's possible they might appreciate the organization that brought them all together enough to sign a cap-friendly deal

I wonder if they share the same agent...

 

[CanadienShark]

I feel both sides decline.

 

[My3Sons]

Assuming they all like each other, they might take a discount to play together...

Otherwise, New Jersey could just threaten to trade them all to separate teams if they don't fall in line


I'm obviously joking about threatening to trade them, but I do think it's possible they might appreciate the organization that brought them all together enough to sign a cap-friendly deal

I wonder if they share the same agent...

Im not sure if they all share one agency but in a recent interview the dad was sporting a sweatshirt from the agency that represents at least one of them. When dad wears the agent’s sweatshirt my guess is that there won’t be any team friendly deals with any of them. At least not enough to where it will matter. Just my thoughts.

 

[Raian]

The Canucks aren't trading Hughes. Point blank. Even if Jersey wins the lottery, Vancouver's not moving him for the 1st overall.

Thats likely not true

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Chabot can play defence? Is there another Chabot in the NHL and not the one who’s a career minus -60?

Try watching the games bub, Chabot has played the second most minutes of any player in the last 3 years on a rebuilding team with defense partners such as Ben Hapur, Frederik Claesson, Max Lajoie, Christian Jaros, Dylan Demelo, Mark Borowoecki, Cody Ceci, Erik Gudbranson, Josh Brown, Brayden Coburn and Nikita Zaitsev as his latest partner. At this rate Hughes will be a -60 this time next season without his babysitter Tanev and playing for a team that is actively trying to make the playoffs.

 

[jay from jersey]

Im not sure if they all share one agency but in a recent interview the dad was sporting a sweatshirt from the agency that represents at least one of them. When dad wears the agent’s sweatshirt my guess is that there won’t be any team friendly deals with any of them. At least not enough to where it will matter. Just my thoughts.

We’ve been thru this with the Staal s and various other brother/related players. It usually never has a chance for the stars to align to make everything work. It’s just not that important of a thing

 

[bossram]

Thats likely not true

This is 100% true. They're not trading Quinn for Luke, Clarke, Beniers, Power, etc.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Chabot can play defence? Is there another Chabot in the NHL and not the one who’s a career minus -60?

imagine using plus/minus to determine anything in the year 2021

 

[StreetHawk]

We’ve been thru this with the Staal s and various other brother/related players. It usually never has a chance for the stars to align to make everything work. It’s just not that important of a thing

Two is workable if both guys want it. When you are talking 3 of them? Not likely. Changes should either NJ or Van secure Luke in the draft.

but if Anyone else takes Luke then uniting the 3 Hughes seems virtually dead.

 

[Stephen]

We’ve been thru this with the Staal s and various other brother/related players. It usually never has a chance for the stars to align to make everything work. It’s just not that important of a thing

Really, they actually often seem to align:

Staal Brothers Eric and Jordan in Carolina (and Jared?).
Staal Brothers Eric and Marc in New York.
Schenn Brothers in Philadelphia.
Niedermayer Brothers in Anaheim.
Sedin Brothers in Vancouver.
Benn Brothers in Dallas.
Ritchie Brothers in Boston.

 

[jay from jersey]

Really, they actually often seem to align:

Staal Brothers Eric and Jordan in Carolina (and Jared?).
Staal Brothers Eric and Marc in New York.
Schenn Brothers in Philadelphia.
Niedermayer Brothers in Anaheim.
Sedin Brothers in Vancouver.
Benn Brothers in Dallas.
it Happens but rarely. And it’s never done with purpose when guys are all young. Sedins were different. They were drafted together

it Happens but rarely. And it’s never done with purpose when guys are all young. Sedins were different. They were drafted together

 

[Stephen]

it Happens but rarely. And it’s never done with purpose when guys are all young. Sedins were different. They were drafted together

There aren't that many brother combos in the NHL to begin with but it seems like a fairly regular occurrence to bring them together whenever there's a chance.

 

[McSuper]

I don't like Vancouver at all . The had such a bunch of drivers on their team so i grow to hate them . Totally different team today but the hate is still there . Being a hockey fan and looking at this trade you have to admit the best player in the trade is Hughes . I think it is easy to see what he will become . He already putting up numbers in the NHL . NDJ offer of a low event 2/3C a late 1st and Smith who is still a question mark isn't enough to get Vancouver to trade their young stud of a D man