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sft2404 said:I know the Isles have a rep for giving away good picks, but I think they to deserve a shot at the kid.
yea i forgot them...i think they would fall in group 3 or 4...but u get my point
sft2404 said:I know the Isles have a rep for giving away good picks, but I think they to deserve a shot at the kid.
Well Washington can suck it.19bruins19 said:Very fair, but Washington would be outraged.
GregStack said:Personally I think that teams that performed poorly have already been rewarded for that. The past four years shouldn't matter a damn.
Straight lottery. Sorry small markets, you guys already cost the Leafs, Flyers, Wings, Avs, Devils, and other larger market teams a shot at the Cup, now we want a shot at Crosby, it's only fair ladies.
EDIT: If my Leafs don't get the pick I'd like to see Columbus get it anyways, but I think everyone deserves a shot.
Can't blame all small markets for this mess. That seems to be a wild tangent running around the boards: All owners caused this lockout. Inversely, all players caused this lockout. Hardly.GregStack said:Personally I think that teams that performed poorly have already been rewarded for that. The past four years shouldn't matter a damn.
Straight lottery. Sorry small markets, you guys already cost the Leafs, Flyers, Wings, Avs, Devils, and other larger market teams a shot at the Cup, now we want a shot at Crosby, it's only fair ladies.
EDIT: If my Leafs don't get the pick I'd like to see Columbus get it anyways, but I think everyone deserves a shot.
Lou is God said:Imagine what it would have been like if Mario was a New York Ranger instead.
Joe_Strummer said:what happens IF Tampa Bay wins the lottery and drafts Crosby? ... what then oh mighty one?
I think he was just stressing an alternative view: Many of the people who say it should be a fair lottery tend to be fans of the big markets... and to see Crosby go to Tampa Bay would almost be a laughable thing towards those fans.Winger98 said:I know I wouldn't be against that. I'd like to see Crosby on a team like TB or Ottawa, where he'd be surrounded by a ton of other talanted young players. Maybe they'd force other teams to open up their games a bit to keep up, and we'd have a serious dynasty on our hands and some entertaining hockey. Atlanta might not be a bad fit for him, either, playing next to Kovalchuk and/or Heatley.
:lolPrevail77 said:Hey it's fair, WSH got Ovechkin over 1 bad season, they gotta give someone else a turn
Winger98 said:I know I wouldn't be against that. I'd like to see Crosby on a team like TB or Ottawa, where he'd be surrounded by a ton of other talanted young players. Maybe they'd force other teams to open up their games a bit to keep up, and we'd have a serious dynasty on our hands and some entertaining hockey. Atlanta might not be a bad fit for him, either, playing next to Kovalchuk and/or Heatley.
Jaded-Fan said:True, because NY never gets the big name players in hockey (or any sport for that matter). They really are overdue to have a name player in NY.
hubofhockey said:The NHL should have a draft this June -- cba or no cba -- and the best basis for draft order should be the cumulative record of the Original 30 over the last FOUR seasons (including late-comers Minny and Columbus).
Following then should be the draft order -- team name, followed by total points over last four seasons.
1. Columbus (252)
2. Atlanta (266)
3. Florida (271)
4. Pitt (288)
5. NY Rangers (299)
6. Chicago (305)
7. Anaheim (306)
8. Nashville (314)
9. Carolina (316)
10. Minnesota (319)
11. Calgary (321)
12. NY Isles (322)
13. Tampa Bay (327)
14. Montreal (327)
15. Phoenix (331)
16. Washington (333)
17. Buffalo (337)
18. Los Angeles (346)
19. Edmonton (366)
20. San Jose (371)
21. Boston (380)
22. Vancouver (389)
23. St. Louis (391)
24. Toronto (391)
25. Dallas (404)
26. Philadelphia (405)
27. New Jersey (414)
28. Ottawa (418)
29. Colorado (422)
30. Detroit (446)
Easy enough, right? Fair. Concise.
Let the drafting begin, followed by the PA's grievance.
kpd/hoh
hubofhockey said:Why does there have to be a CBA?
If the league imposes work conditions -- via impasse - that it can make whatever call it wants vis a vis the draft.
If the league goes on to hammer out a cba with the union, it can make it a condition that it won't agree to a deal unless the PA accepts its draft order, and perhaps even the selections (depending if cba is ratified after the June draft.
The league is still in business, even if it doesn't have a work agreement with its players. The tail has wagged the dog too long, folks.
kpd/hoh
Gary said:The more I see these types of analysis the more lost I get. Why is any formula needed at all? Who can say where each team would've ended up at the end of the 'would be' hockey season? I think the only fair thing to do is to have a 30-way lottery whereby anyteam could end up in any position IMO. Look at it this way too-Toronto, Philly, Rangers, Detroit-Would this be fair to them if the underdogs all got a better shot at Crosby then them when in all likelyhood those 4 teams will be forced to make major player movement and risk losing 1-2-3? star players off their roster when this thing resumes??
Coolburn said:I don't have a problem with the weighted lottery using the last 4-5 yrs worth of standing with a caveat. If you've won the lottery to get the #1 pick since the beginning of the lottery (after Ottawa tanked to get Daigle), then you shouldn't be allowed to win this lottery. That would eliminate Florida, Atlanta, the Islanders, Tampa, Boston and Ottawa (remember that Florida won the lottery twice in 2 yrs and traded the pick to Pittsburgh in 03 and Columbus in 02 so that wouldn't affect the teams trading for the pick).