Friedman: Hoffman is on the trade block in Ottawa

[TK 421]

I absolutely think Kyrou is on the table this summer for Hoffman. Especially if you land Tavares (and I hope you guys do). Send some cap back to Ottawa along with Kyrou for Hoffman. You guys are immediately cup contenders with the best combination of top6/top4 in the league. Maybe Tampa rivals you but I don't even think so.

Steen-Tavares-Hoffman
Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko

Edmundson-Pietrangelo
Dunn-Parayko

And still have Thomas, Thompson, Kostin etc.
I think Armstrong really goes for it this summer.

Any one of the prospects besides Thomas and Husso should be available along with the WPG 1st. Armstrong is determined to shoehorn that 1st in as part of the value, it's just currency to him for the reasons you already gave. IMO The Blues best move is to trade for a top 6 guy at the draft just prior to the period they can talk to Tavares. If that guy is a goal scorer like Hoffman that could be very enticing to JT. Tarasenko, Hoffman, Schwartz, Schenn....no matter who JT ends up with as linemates he'd be in great shape for personal and team success.

I know many Blues fans will disagree with who I think should be available but seizing an opportunity right now could end up a major coup if it helps bring JT here.

 

[Dbrownss]

I absolutely think Kyrou is on the table this summer for Hoffman. Especially if you land Tavares (and I hope you guys do). Send some cap back to Ottawa along with Kyrou for Hoffman. You guys are immediately cup contenders with the best combination of top6/top4 in the league. Maybe Tampa rivals you but I don't even think so.

Steen-Tavares-Hoffman
Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko

Edmundson-Pietrangelo
Dunn-Parayko

And still have Thomas, Thompson, Kostin etc.
I think Armstrong really goes for it this summer.

I dont beleive his on the table in the summer. The market sounds like its opening up with who's becoming available. Hoffman isn't the only fish in the sea with Pacioretty and now Skinner being available, and JVR with FA. This doesn't account for guys who aren't known(Schenn recently). I dont see Army caving.

The offers I read around the deadline involved some combination of Fabbri/Top Prospect/1st. I read both sides were turning down pretty much the same offers so who said yes and who said no is hard to gauge but if Hoffman is available im sure its going to involve something like a 1st+good piece.

given the last few comments after the Stastny trade. It sounded like Army introduced the 1st to get the ask for a top prospect taken out. He made it sound like Melnyk just asked for the 1st+original ask.

I can see Fabbri+ being available for a top 6 LW with term though

 

[BA Carroll]

If I'm trading for Hoffman, the only prospects I'm dealing are one of Thompson/Kostin, and I'm sending salary back (one of Berglund/Sobotka), along with a 1st.

I would also be open to a larger deal involving Hoffman+Ryan, IF they will retain some salary, and IF we can send yet more salary back (one of Bouwmeester/Allen).

That's not a popular idea among Blues fans, but Ryan is a solid veteran presence who can still contribute, if his salary can be mitigated.

 

[bert]

Leafs 2nd 2018, 3rd 2o19, and Dymtro Tymashov/Jeremy Bracco

hot garbage

 

[bert]

Sharks 1st and Lebanc

This is the type of deal id hope Ottawa would make. However with the sens current coach Lebanc will end up in the press box for some more defensive specialists.

I think 10th from Edmonton for Hoffman is fair. He likely scores 40+ with Mcdavid.

If I'm trading for Hoffman, the only prospects I'm dealing are one of Thompson/Kostin, and I'm sending salary back (one of Berglund/Sobotka), along with a 1st.

I would also be open to a larger deal involving Hoffman+Ryan, IF they will retain some salary, and IF we can send yet more salary back (one of Bouwmeester/Allen).

That's not a popular idea among Blues fans, but Ryan is a solid veteran presence who can still contribute, if his salary can be mitigated.

Thomas, 1st Bergunld/Sobotka is a deal id do as the sens. Prefer Kyrou, I am skeptical about Thomas's ability to score goals at the NHL level but he could come along.

 

[Qward]

Hoffman

for

Perry (assume for discussion he'd waive for OTT)
1st 2018
Andy Welinski OR Marcus Pettersson
Nick Ritchie OR Max Jones

Ottawa fans will prob see Perry without retention and it ends there. Ducks fans will likely think we give up too much in youth and potential.

I see it as Anaheim does overpay slightly to exchange Perry for Hoffman - who addresses everything they need/want - speed and scoring.

Ottawa gets a nice package of quality youth pieces in different positions (and the 1st rounder) and maybe, the change starts a fire under Perry (as well as getting more PP time) and he can pot 20-25G for them and mentor some kids.

Unless Gaborik retires or goes on LTIR and Bobby Ryan is moved to a team needing to reach the floor, Ottawa cannot afford to pay Perry 9M, 8M, 7M.

Rumor has it Ottawa needed a loan by the NHL to cover salaries this year.

 

[CaptPantalones]

I dont think the Sabres quite have the ammo.. but

2019 1st (Sharks)
32nd overall
Nylander
Beaulieu (salary purposes)

 

[Dbrownss]

This is the type of deal id hope Ottawa would make. However with the sens current coach Lebanc will end up in the press box for some more defensive specialists.

I think 10th from Edmonton for Hoffman is fair. He likely scores 40+ with Mcdavid.



Thomas, 1st Bergunld/Sobotka is a deal id do as the sens. Prefer Kyrou, I am skeptical about Thomas's ability to score goals at the NHL level but he could come along.

There is zero chance this happens. Absolute zero chance.

 

[TFHockey]

I absolutely think Kyrou is on the table this summer for Hoffman. Especially if you land Tavares (and I hope you guys do). Send some cap back to Ottawa along with Kyrou for Hoffman. You guys are immediately cup contenders with the best combination of top6/top4 in the league. Maybe Tampa rivals you but I don't even think so.

Steen-Tavares-Hoffman
Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko

Edmundson-Pietrangelo
Dunn-Parayko

And still have Thomas, Thompson, Kostin etc.
I think Armstrong really goes for it this summer.

Do you really have Hoffman playing ahead of Tarasenko? Or are you just trying to not break up lines...

 

[Rebels57]

Do the Senators need a LHD?

If so, Flyers upgrade offer to 19th overall pick in 2018 + LHD Robert Hagg + conditional 3rd in 2019 (upgrades to 2nd if Hoffman extends).

 

[stempniaksen]

Do the Senators need a LHD?

If so, Flyers upgrade offer to 19th overall pick in 2018 + LHD Robert Hagg + conditional 3rd in 2019 (upgrades to 2nd if Hoffman extends).

I still think Dorion will push for a single better piece than any of those pieces (rumoured to have asked for Sanheim, Fabbri, ect) but the value is probably okay. I'm not sure ANOTHER bottom pairing LHD is something this team needs right now, but I like Hagg better than most of the internal options at this point.

 

[Rebels57]

I still think Dorion will push for a single better piece than any of those pieces (rumoured to have asked for Sanheim, Fabbri, ect) but the value is probably okay. I'm not sure ANOTHER bottom pairing LHD is something this team needs right now, but I like Hagg better than most of the internal options at this point.

That's understandable.

 

[Qward]

Do the Senators need a LHD?

If so, Flyers upgrade offer to 19th overall pick in 2018 + LHD Robert Hagg + conditional 3rd in 2019 (upgrades to 2nd if Hoffman extends).

Lets make it simple and make it Provorov straight up jk.

I am not familiar enough with Hagg. If he has top pairing potential then maybe, but if his ceiling is second pairing I am not sure.
After Chabot Ottawa has a plethora of low end bottom pairing LHD.

Borowiecki, Harpur (best chance right now of being second pairing), Claesson, followed by a tonne of LHD prospects.
We need someone that could play with Karlsson (should he magically re-sign)

 

[TkachukNorris79]

Do you really have Hoffman playing ahead of Tarasenko? Or are you just trying to not break up lines...

Both trying to not break up the line of Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko, and I also think Hoffman and Tavares would be a filthy combination. Steen can still keep up with them, but Fabbri could definitely jump in that spot too if he stays healthy. Again, that might be the best and most balanced top 6 in the league.

 

[branch]

Hard pass from me. I would rather hold on to Dunn. (And Kyrou!) I'm not overwhelmed as others about Hoffman. He is a proven goal scorer, I get that we need that, but he's not an impact player that can carry a line. He's also a LHS LW, we have lots of those.

He absolutely is capable of doing this

 

[topshelf15]

Unless Gaborik retires or goes on LTIR and Bobby Ryan is moved to a team needing to reach the floor, Ottawa cannot afford to pay Perry 9M, 8M, 7M.

Rumor has it Ottawa needed a loan by the NHL to cover salaries this year.

Yep EM has sucked the well dry ,and will now look to cash in what is left of the carcass

 

[CBJx614]

As others on the Jackets board have mentioned this could be a good grab for the Jackets. However I'm sure Id be hesitant because of the cost.

Panarin-PLD-Atkinson
Hoffman-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand

 

[BA Carroll]

This is the type of deal id hope Ottawa would make. However with the sens current coach Lebanc will end up in the press box for some more defensive specialists.

I think 10th from Edmonton for Hoffman is fair. He likely scores 40+ with Mcdavid.



Thomas, 1st Bergunld/Sobotka is a deal id do as the sens. Prefer Kyrou, I am skeptical about Thomas's ability to score goals at the NHL level but he could come along.

Thomas is untouchable.
Thompson or Kostin, for Hoffman, is probably do-able.

 

[TkachukNorris79]

Hard pass from me. I would rather hold on to Dunn. (And Kyrou!) I'm not overwhelmed as others about Hoffman. He is a proven goal scorer, I get that we need that, but he's not an impact player that can carry a line. He's also a LHS LW, we have lots of those.

I'd you need one player to carry a line, and that player isn't Crosby or McDavid, good luck trying to make the playoffs.

Also, Hoffman is a left shot but can play and has played RW recently. Arguably better on that side.

 

[Dominicr]

This is the type of deal id hope Ottawa would make. However with the sens current coach Lebanc will end up in the press box for some more defensive specialists.

I think 10th from Edmonton for Hoffman is fair. He likely scores 40+ with Mcdavid.



Thomas, 1st Bergunld/Sobotka is a deal id do as the sens. Prefer Kyrou, I am skeptical about Thomas's ability to score goals at the NHL level but he could come along.

I wouldn’t do Thomas for Hoffman straight up so forget the rest

 

[Curufinwe]

Lets make it simple and make it Provorov straight up jk.

I am not familiar enough with Hagg. If he has top pairing potential then maybe, but if his ceiling is second pairing I am not sure.

Well, top pairing dmen sometimes have awful possession numbers....

 

[Neiler]

As others on the Jackets board have mentioned this could be a good grab for the Jackets. However I'm sure Id be hesitant because of the cost.

Panarin-PLD-Atkinson
Hoffman-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand

Jenner + Carlsson is probably not too far off, so it is a manageable cost I would think.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Jenner + Carlsson is probably not too far off, so it is a manageable cost I would think.

That's terrible for the Sens. I'd think Bjorkstrand needs to go back minimum. Or Nutivaara. Jenner is a drain of a player, while Carlsson is a no offensive upside Dman.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I dont think the Sabres quite have the ammo.. but

2019 1st (Sharks)
32nd overall
Nylander
Beaulieu (salary purposes)

If one of Bokk or Kaut is still available by pick 32nd, I'd do it.

 

[CBJx614]

Jenner + Carlsson is probably not too far off, so it is a manageable cost I would think.

I could definitely live with that.

That's terrible for the Sens. I'd think Bjorkstrand needs to go back minimum. Or Nutivaara. Jenner is a drain of a player, while Carlsson is a no offensive upside Dman.

Jenner isn't that bad when hes playing with the right players. When he was put on a line with Wennberg and Vanek he had something like 16 pts in his last 19 games(IIRC)

And if Carlsson can develop properly he doesn't need to be a offensive player, he just needs to be strong defensively and be able to breakout of the zone with consistency to be a extremely effective player. He's got the size and he's a very good skater, its just a matter of adjusting to the NA game.