Prospect Info: HF Mock Draft 28th Overall

[tyflames]

So you think he'll be no more than a career backup? Because that's the "level" of Brossoit (AHL starter) and Gilles (backup, maybe 1B).

I agree with you that Fucale would be way above those guys because he has elite starter potential but I think you are underestimating Brossoit and Gilles. Especially Gillies with his size and if he continues to progress could work out. You never know with goalies though, so it's hard to say what they will be when they are young.

 

[TheHudlinator]

So you think he'll be no more than a career backup? Because that's the "level" of Brossoit (AHL starter) and Gilles (backup, maybe 1B).

No I think you're very wrong on both of Gillies and Brossoit.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I like Compher, but in the NHL I see him as a great 3rd line center or a fringe #2C. Lindholm or Monahan will likely be our #1C of the future then we already have a bunch of guys like Backlund, Jankow, Reinhart and now Knight. I'd rather take Petan as his ceiling is higher if he reaches it.

 

[Volica]

So you think he'll be no more than a career backup? Because that's the "level" of Brossoit (AHL starter) and Gilles (backup, maybe 1B).

Goalies are silly things to be honest.

Here's some quick hitters about how you never know with them:
SCF - Quick (72 overall), Rask (21 overall)
Regular Season - Lundqvist (207 overall), Bobrovsky (undrafted), Schneider (26 overall)

I think just looking at these 5 high tier goalies, you can truly see that it's a scatter gun in regards to what you're getting. Can you get a Rask or Schneider in the first? Yeah. But you can also get a Fleury or even worse, Leland Irving.

At the end of the day, that's a position that truly requires a lot of work, and really being a total unknown until the guy's about 23-24.

I will say this, in the last deep draft, the only goalie to go in the first round; was Tuukkka and he's... not bad?

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I think the Flames strategy after our first pick to take the BPA, so we'll see..

 

[brewski1810]

Took mueller, surprised he's not getting more love, no to fucale, goaltending is the only place we have prospect depth,

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Took mueller, surprised he's not getting more love, no to fucale, goaltending is the only place we have prospect depth,

Mueller would be my 3rd choice behind McCoshen and Petan.

 

[herashak]

id take a potential starting goalie over a potential 3rd line C. maybe not before the knight signing but now i would

 

[Wabbit]

So you think he'll be no more than a career backup? Because that's the "level" of Brossoit (AHL starter) and Gilles (backup, maybe 1B).

I'm a little on the fence regarding Brossoit, but i don't think the numbers Gillies put up this year (for a college rookie) can be ignored. I believe he is severely underrated as a prospect, and will one day be our starter...

 

[Wabbit]

Took mueller, surprised he's not getting more love, no to fucale, goaltending is the only place we have prospect depth,

I think if you're gonna pick a more defensive D-man, why pick Mueller, Hagg ,or McCoshen when you can pick Heatherington-a huge kid with some nastiness?

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Quantity does not mean quality. Fucale would be head and shoulders above any goalie prospect currently in the system.

Forgive me if I'm not a big fan of goalies playing on very strong teams going in the first round.

 

[Ashasx]

Who the hell voted Fucale?

 

[Ashasx]

Quantity does not mean quality. Fucale would be head and shoulders above any goalie prospect currently in the system.

@Ashasx
@coreypronman Is Zach Fucale a better prospect than Jon Gillies?

@coreypronman
@Ashasx it's close. lean to Gillies.

Gillies posted MVP numbers on an awful team while Fucale posted backup numbers on the best team in the CHL.

Ian McCoshen is my pick at 28.

 

[tyflames]

@Ashasx
@coreypronman Is Zach Fucale a better prospect than Jon Gillies?

@coreypronman
@Ashasx it's close. lean to Gillies.

Gillies posted MVP numbers on an awful team while Fucale posted backup numbers on the best team in the CHL.

Ian McCoshen is my pick at 28.

I still take Fucale every day of the week and twice on Sundays if he's there at 28. But Meuller looks solid as well.

 

[Wabbit]

I like Compher, but in the NHL I see him as a great 3rd line center or a fringe #2C. Lindholm or Monahan will likely be our #1C of the future then we already have a bunch of guys like Backlund, Jankow, Reinhart and now Knight. I'd rather take Petan as his ceiling is higher if he reaches it.

I totally agree with you, except i hope Petan gets left out of the equation. We need size and grit in our pipeline and i just don't think he has the skating or shiftiness needed to make it as a small man. If we went for a smaller forward, I can see Klimchuk or Hartman being able to offer us more-though neither will be available at 28 unfortunately.

 

[Noori]

Fucale just doesn't seem like a Weisbrod pick to me. Compher or McCoshen are the guys I see the Flames targeting with the 28th.

I'd need one more top-40 pick to be comfortable selected Fucale.

 

[herashak]

so fucale is a year younger and almost as good as gillies? i dont mind that.

 

[Wabbit]

I may get roasted for saying this-but i can see the flames taking Brett Pesce with the 28th. We all know how much Weisbrod likes his college kids, and since we don't have a 2nd rounder, it might necessitate taking him there. I heard a rumor weeks ago (sorry no source) that they were high on him too, and Feaster isn't afraid to go off the board.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Last time we took a goalie in the 25~ range it worked out great for us. Great idea guys!

 

[Flamer4]

The more I read about mueller the more I want him at 28 if we need a d then I think he's our guy

 

[herashak]

Last time we took a goalie in the 25~ range it worked out great for us. Great idea guys!

under sutter... so you might aswell look at forwards who were drafted under sutter in the 20s. not much better.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

under sutter... so you might aswell look at forwards who were drafted under sutter in the 20s. not any better.

Backlund, Nemisz, and Chucko. That's a 33% success rate, and Nemisz might (miiiight) end up in the NHL at some point. Granted, the goalie sample is exactly one, but still technically worse.

 

[Lunatik]

Last time we took a goalie in the 25~ range it worked out great for us. Great idea guys!

I'm not sure what you consider the 25~ range, but the closest goalie picked to 25 (also the only goalie picked between 12th & 30th) is Jason Muzzatti in 1988 and scouting was way more hit & miss back then.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I have 2 draft wishes. First is, we trade up somehow to grab Barkov. Or my 2nd is, we package our 2 later picks to acquire Philly's 1st and then draft one of Domi or Hunter Shinkaruk.

 

[Calculon]

Not that past drafts necessarily have any bearing on future drafts, but here's all the goalies the Flames have drafted in the first round:

1988 - 21st OV - Jason Muzzatti - 62 GP
1990 - 11th OV - Trevor Kidd - 387 GP
2000 - 09th OV - Brent Krahn - 1 GP
2006 - 26th OV - Leland Irving - 13 GP

Given the amount of talent likely available with the 28th overall, I'd rather the Flames stay away from Fucale. Better yet, do the proposed Flyers trade, if possible, and try to get a higher quality player with the 11th OV.