Pre-Game Talk: Hawks@Vegas 11-13

[Kaners Bald Spot]

92 in the doghouse again, but if he plays I like his fit better with Dach and Carpenter. If it were up to me I'd make the line 92-77-8, and play it 3rd line minutes. But what do I know? I'm only a fan.
Discuss.

Good to see Murphy is going to be back soon.

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[Toews2Bickell]

Free Nylander

 

[CallMeShaft]

If Dach gets sandwiched in between Carpenter and Smith, then that is absolute bullshit. That's not how you treat a young kid with his talent. If you swap Smith for Nylander, it's at least a little less awful.

But I do understand why Nylander might not be dressing tomorrow. His last three games haven't been up to par for him and he's already shown that he responds to being benched.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

imagine sitting nylander for zach smith

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

If Dach gets sandwiched in between Carpenter and Smith, then that is absolute bull****. That's not how you treat a young kid with his talent. If you swap Smith for Nylander, it's at least a little less awful.

But I do understand why Nylander might not be dressing tomorrow. His last three games haven't been up to par for him and he's already shown that he responds to being benched.

This might be a little whacked out, but I'd like to try Smith with Toews and Saad. I actually think he might fit there.

 

[CallMeShaft]

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Who sits when Murphy returns? Gus, KFC or Boqvist goes back to Rockford?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Who sits when Murphy returns? Gus, KFC or Boqvist goes back to Rockford?

Ideally seabrook. But probably won't happen. My guess Boqvist goes to Rockford.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Ideally seabrook. But probably won't happen. My guess Boqvist goes to Rockford.

That's my guess too. It shouldn't happen, but it's my expectation. The other option is to waive Koekkoek. If they do that, I'd expect him to be claimed.

There also could be a Gus trade brewing.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Ideally seabrook. But probably won't happen. My guess Boqvist goes to Rockford.

pisses me off even thinking about this scenario...one goal by the way...cant sit the worst f***ing player on the team but they're all about winning....belichik would go tell 7 to take a seat and eventually send him home cause thats what winning over everything orgs/coaches do

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Who sits when Murphy returns? Gus, KFC or Boqvist goes back to Rockford?

Boqvist will go back to Rockford because the organization would rather throw the season away than bench Seabrook.

I apologize everyone for the overreaction but I really dislike Seabrook.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Boqvist will go back to Rockford because the organization would rather throw the season away than bench Seabrook.

I apologize everyone for the overreaction but I really dislike Seabrook.

Is it an overreaction? Boqvist in his like 7 games of NHL experience is already better than KFC...Its not like this situation goes away when Ian Mitchell enters the picture in 6 months...Make the hard choice now and get it over with, they're gonna have to by spring anyway

 

[ChiHawks10]

Boqvist will go back to Rockford because the organization would rather throw the season away than bench Seabrook.

I apologize everyone for the overreaction but I really dislike Seabrook.

Not an overreaction. Not in the least. Seabrook will uselessly fill up a spot preventing one of Boqvist or Mitchell from playing in the NHL. It's f***ing awful. It's about as shitty a situation as this team could find itself in. Icing a worse roster on every single night because Seabs sucks at hockey, and Stan gave him a contract 4-5 years too long.

I honestly expect a D trade at some point this season, because we seem to have too many, but I fully expect Seabs will continue to play 95% of the games, and it f***ing blows.

 

[BK]

Boqvist will go back to Rockford because the organization would rather throw the season away than bench Seabrook.

I apologize everyone for the overreaction but I really dislike Seabrook.

Not an over reaction at all.

 

[Mrfenn92]

That's my guess too. It shouldn't happen, but it's my expectation. The other option is to waive Koekkoek. If they do that, I'd expect him to be
claimed.

There also could be a Gus trade brewing.

Everyone is in agreement. I wouldn't waive koekkoek. I think he's been damn solid this year. Maybe a trade with gus is going to happen. He's playing much better since his scratch. Only thing that scares me about trading Gus now is the value of said trade. He's more valuable to the hawks right now then what a trade return would probably bring.
Still like having him as a good puck mover from the back end.

 

[Rick C137]

Yeah I don’t think your gonna find many people that want Seabrook playing over Boqvist

 

[Mrfenn92]

Boqvist will go back to Rockford because the organization would rather throw the season away than bench Seabrook.

I apologize everyone for the overreaction but I really dislike
Seabrook.

No reason to apologize. It's not a overreaction at all.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Perfect moment to face them, they are struggling.

 

[BK]

I think the saw the Payton Krebs was participating in line rushes with the Golden Knights.

 

[piteus]

Boqvist will go back to Rockford because the organization would rather throw the season away than bench Seabrook.

I apologize everyone for the overreaction but I really dislike Seabrook.

You don't dislike Seabrook ... you just hate his contract. It's not Seabrook's fault Father Time caught up and the Hawks gave him a silly contract. The guy played a physical game and laid it on the line for 3 Cups. It's not surprising Seabrook's body is washed after a ton of games. He just can't move.

 

[ChiHawks10]

You don't dislike Seabrook ... you just hate his contract. It's not Seabrook's fault Father Time caught up and the Hawks gave him a silly contract. The guy played a physical game and laid it on the line for 3 Cups. It's not surprising Seabrook's body is washed after a ton of games. He just can't move.

It's partially his fault that he's playing the minutes/situations as if he's a top pair D still. I mean... he's in denial that he can still play at the NHL level. Maybe if they played him how he should be played as an aged vet, on the third pair, seeing 8-10 minutes a night... he wouldn't have this issue. It seems the entire Hawks organization just refuses to accept the truth that he's now a third pairing D, at best, and thinks he's an ageless wonder that can still play 25 minutes a night, and in all situations, and be successful. That's just not the case. The sooner the FO, Coach, and Seabs realize this, the better off the Hawks will be.

 

[Hawkaholic]

It's partially his fault that he's playing the minutes/situations as if he's a top pair D still. I mean... he's in denial that he can still play at the NHL level. Maybe if they played him how he should be played as an aged vet, on the third pair, seeing 8-10 minutes a night... he wouldn't have this issue. It seems the entire Hawks organization just refuses to accept the truth that he's now a third pairing D, at best, and thinks he's an ageless wonder that can still play 25 minutes a night, and in all situations, and be successful. That's just not the case. The sooner the FO, Coach, and Seabs realize this, the better off the Hawks will be.

I don't see how it's his fault. The coach should not give 2 shits if Seabrook thinks he can still play. Coach tells him when to go on the ice, so tell him to go on less. Simple.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I don't see how it's his fault. The coach should not give 2 ****s if Seabrook thinks he can still play. Coach tells him when to go on the ice, so tell him to go on less. Simple.

Do you really think Colliton doesn't recognize the fact that Seabrook has the worst advanced statistics of all but 4-5 D in the entire league? I'd say this is more FO/McDouche than anything else. Nothing to back that up, obviously, but I can't imagine Colliton doesn't see it when even the worst of the meatball fans can see it...

 

[Hawkaholic]

Do you really think Colliton doesn't recognize the fact that Seabrook has the worst advanced statistics of all but 4-5 D in the entire league? I'd say this is more FO/McDouche than anything else. Nothing to back that up, obviously, but I can't imagine Colliton doesn't see it when even the worst of the meatball fans can see it...

I don't know, but I know it's not Seabs fault that he is playing 20mins a night. The coach takes first blame since he allocates the minutes. I don't imagine the FO/McDouche was involved in him getting scratched, so I doubt they are involved in how many mins he plays.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I don't know, but I know it's not Seabs fault that he is playing 20mins a night. The coach takes first blame since he allocates the minutes. I don't imagine the FO/McDouche was involved in him getting scratched, so I doubt they are involved in how many mins he plays.

No, it is definitely partially his fault. He needs to recognize he's hurting the team more than helping, and if I were him, I'd be telling the damn coach that I can't handle playing those roles anymore. As a "leader", seeing as he wears a letter, that's on him. Except he's also in denial.

Every single veteran player has their role diminished as they fall off the cliff. Not him, though... and you want to blame the coach for it entirely? I call BS.