Proposal: Habs package for speeding up the rebuild

[pth2]

I think I and a lot of people automatically assume “speed up a rebuild” means acquiring older players but yeah looking at Hughes history getting younger players is a nice worthwhile gamble

Well, the Dach trade was actually getting younger by a year - going from Romanov to Dach made Montreal younger, overall.

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

Well, the Dach trade was actually getting younger by a year - going from Romanov to Dach made Montreal younger, overall.

That’s not really defined as “speeding up the rebuild”

 

[Gravity]

That’s not really defined as “speeding up the rebuild”

Agreed but in this case the premise lies in trading a pick for a ~19-21 year old player which is indeed getting older and speeding up the rebuild.

 

[pth2]

That’s not really defined as “speeding up the rebuild”

I wouldn't characterize it as such, either - but it was a positional shift from a strength (LD) to a weakness (C).

 

[Bouboumaster]

We already have all the pieces we need on defense,
We already have a solid first line
We will draft early this year
Let's end that rebuilt shit, and let's compete!

I'd want a top end talent to take control of the second line
Make your offer

 

[GirardSpinorama]

The only team that wants those assets will want to tear it down but they often dont have 25 year olds who are any good.

 

[John Mandalorian]

It depends on how Montreal wants to go about this. Sometimes Suzuki seems Jonathan Toewes-ish and sometimes he seems 2C-ish.

But they passed on Michkov et al when they already had Guhle. So theyve possibly clarified this somewhat.

If theres a key piece they need, shouldn't more be on the table?

 

[Bouboumaster]

It depends on how Montreal wants to go about this. Sometimes Suzuki seems Jonathan Toewes-ish and sometimes he seems 2C-ish.

But they passed on Michkov et al when they already had Guhle. So theyve possibly clarified this somewhat.

If theres a key piece they need, shouldn't more be on the table?

What more could we put on lol

There's three 1st draft pick on the table

 

[John Mandalorian]

What more could we put on lol

There's three 1st draft pick on the table

If there’s one thing Montreal lacks, it’s an potentially elite 1C. Teams aren’t looking to give those away. Montreal had a chance at Michkov but chose the D instead.

So just let the gumbo cook for a while.

 

[Bouboumaster]

So just let the gumbo cook for a while.

I want to compete next year and I'm ready to pay

 

[viceroy]

Habs would be willing to throw in:
- Habs 2025 1st, with no conditions attached to it
- Calgary 2025 1st
- Winnipeg 2024 1st
- Any prospect not named Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher, Beck, Mesar

WPG first should be on the table as well.

Mesar and Beck could be in the deal, especially Mesar

NO! Let's throw in moar!!! Our 2024 1st unprotected, same for 2026 dagnabbit! Matheson and Savard too. Howsabout Fowler and Volokhin? or Engstrom and Konyushkov? It's a fire sale boys! Everything must go! We must make the playoffs next season come hell or high water! And once we're in the playoffs anything can happen!

I get why Hutson and Reinbacher are off the table, maybe Mailloux. But Beck and Mesar should be in play for sure if we're being realistic.

NO! Hutson and Reinbacher too! Maybe if we add an unprotected 1st we could get Zegras for those 3 assets! Imagine all those Michigan's! They'll just have to hand us the Cup then.

Why does Montreal need to speed up the rebuild?

Because NOW! Now, now, now, now! No more p***y footin', we Habs fans aren't a patient bunch. And if we don't get to the Eastern Conference finals by next season I'll throw my bowl of broccoli at mom.

Speeding up rebuilds are never a good thing in my opinion.

I said NOW!

We already have all the pieces we need on defense,
We already have a solid first line
We will draft early this year
Let's end that rebuilt shit, and let's compete!

Yeah, we just need 1 more high end piece of talent and that should take us from 28th league-wide right now to a Cup contender for sure!

If there’s one thing Montreal lacks, it’s an potentially elite 1C. Teams aren’t looking to give those away. Montreal had a chance at Michkov but chose the D instead.

Sorry to break it to ya but Michkov isn't a Centre.

 

[Scintillating10]

Would Coyotes move Keller? For Guhle?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I could see Anaheim entertaining the idea of trading Zegras for Montreal's 1st.

 

[John Mandalorian]

NO! Let's throw in moar!!! Our 2024 1st unprotected, same for 2026 dagnabbit! Matheson and Savard too. Howsabout Fowler and Volokhin? or Engstrom and Konyushkov? It's a fire sale boys! Everything must go! We must make the playoffs next season come hell or high water! And once we're in the playoffs anything can happen!



NO! Hutson and Reinbacher too! Maybe if we add an unprotected 1st we could get Zegras for those 3 assets! Imagine all those Michigan's! They'll just have to hand us the Cup then.



Because NOW! Now, now, now, now! No more p***y footin', we Habs fans aren't a patient bunch. And if we don't get to the Eastern Conference finals by next season I'll throw my bowl of broccoli at mom.



I said NOW!



Yeah, we just need 1 more high end piece of talent and that should take us from 28th league-wide right now to a Cup contender for sure!



Sorry to break it to ya but Michkov isn't a Centre.

Michkov Looking to Transition to the Centre Position -

Philadelphia Flyers super-prospect, Matvei Michkov, is reportedly attempting to transition from the wing to the centre position this season in a joint decision made by the player and his head coach, Roman Rotenberg, according to Hockey News Hub. #FueledByPhilly Matvei Michkov said he studied...

www.flyersnation.com

Did they give up on this?

 

[Hobnobs]

We already have all the pieces we need on defense,
We already have a solid first line
We will draft early this year
Let's end that rebuilt shit, and let's compete!

I'd want a top end talent to take control of the second line
Make your offer

If he doesn't want to resign here Berggren might be available. I doubt Yzerman wants to trade him within the division though unless it's a very good offer. But he's definitely a guy Habs should target with this thread premise.

 

[RangerBoy]

I could see Anaheim entertaining the idea of trading Zegras for Montreal's 1st.

Verbeek wants to start putting a winning team on the ice. The Montreal 1st round pick does nothing for Anaheim.

What I am looking for:

- Player must be 25 or younger
- Must be a forward, since goalies prospects are unreliable and we are already stacked up the ass with defensemen prospects


Habs would be willing to throw in:
- Habs 2025 1st, with no conditions attached to it
- Calgary 2025 1st
- Winnipeg 2024 1st
- Any prospect not named Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher, Beck, Mesar


Obviously, it's aimed at a rebuilding team who wants to speed-up their rebuild. For us, it's to get out of it.

You saw Arpon Basu's podcast. There is some pressure on Montreal to take that next step. Finishing out of the playoffs for another 2 or 3 seasons is not acceptable.

The Habs need another forward.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Verbeek wants to start putting a winning team on the ice. The Montreal 1st round pick does nothing for Anaheim.

I'm not saying they will make that trade, just that I can see him entertaining the idea of that. If Verbeek feels that Zegras is going to try and force himself out for example then I could absolutely see him opting to move him

 

[BLNY]

Stay the course.

Return of Dach provides a sub 25 player. Anyone under 25 you'd want to acquire would be so cost-prohibitive that it wouldn't be worth it.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

If there’s one thing Montreal lacks, it’s an potentially elite 1C. Teams aren’t looking to give those away. Montreal had a chance at Michkov but chose the D instead.

So just let the gumbo cook for a while.

So. You think Michkov is a C? Sounds about right given your history!

 

[Baksfamous112]

That’s not really defined as “speeding up the rebuild”

They have the pieces in place. They need one more top 6 forward and good depth. If there’s a way to hit a home run this summer then I’m all up for it. Habs are going to be a very exciting team to watch as soon as next year.

The only team that wants those assets will want to tear it down but they often dont have 25 year olds who are any good.

Doesn’t need to be under 25. Panarin in NYR was 28, right? I think anyone under 29 should be looked at.

If there’s one thing Montreal lacks, it’s an potentially elite 1C. Teams aren’t looking to give those away. Montreal had a chance at Michkov but chose the D instead.

So just let the gumbo cook for a while.

Montreal still has a chance at Celibrini and if not, I don’t think they are far off with Suzuki and Dach - If Dach can stay healthy.

I still remember how dominent Dach was during the pre-season and his first game. I even think if he stay healthy next year he will be better and more dangerous offensively than Suzuki

 

[John Mandalorian]

So. You think Michkov is a C? Sounds about right given your history!

There was discussion of him projecting as C and earlier this year he was transitioning to C.

I posted a link discussing this.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Montreal still has a chance at Celibrini and if not, I don’t think they are far off with Suzuki and Dach - If Dach can stay healthy.

I still remember how dominent Dach was during the pre-season and his first game. I even think if he stay healthy next year he will be better and more dangerous offensively than Suzuki

You might be right. And for clarity, I'm not saying Montreal cant contend with Suzuki as a 1C. It's just that it would be somewhat of a bummer for them to not come out of their rebuild with that.

 

[General Fanager]

What I am looking for:

- Player must be 25 or younger
- Must be a forward, since goalies prospects are unreliable and we are already stacked up the ass with defensemen prospects


Habs would be willing to throw in:
- Habs 2025 1st, with no conditions attached to it
- Calgary 2025 1st
- Winnipeg 2024 1st
- Any prospect not named Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher, Beck, Mesar


Obviously, it's aimed at a rebuilding team who wants to speed-up their rebuild. For us, it's to get out of it.

Personally I would keep Mesar but Beck can be added for the right player...

They have been doing just that 2 draft ago (13OA for Dach) and Last draft (1st + 2nd) for Newhook. I also think OP is right. They’ll aim for a home run this summer. Wouldn’t be surprised if we also put our 2024 first on the table for the right player

wow for that pick it better be for someone amazing. Also I would not trade the pick before Its The Habs turn on the clock anyways. If they have a shot at Celebrini, Demidov or Lindstrom I am not so sure they would pass them up.....

 

[General Fanager]

Verbeek wants to start putting a winning team on the ice. The Montreal 1st round pick does nothing for Anaheim.


You saw Arpon Basu's podcast. There is some pressure on Montreal to take that next step. Finishing out of the playoffs for another 2 or 3 seasons is not acceptable.

The Habs need another forward.

I would say they need 2 forwards and somehow trade away a few anchors....

 

[Tanknation]

I hate these dumb threads...
You don't rush a rebuild. Least 2 years more of sucking and drafting.