Proposal: Habs package for speeding up the rebuild

[Guy Larose]

No ? Rs have sometimes ignored/defied my advice, and track record = usually they should have listened to me.
We'll see.
Smart play = at minimum admit he has chem w/Cuylle and they can get by w/Brodz as pivot = a cheap line, but try to upgrade 3C

so again, no

WTF is this fantasy land crap? Rangers defied your advice? You need to put down the crack pipe and get back to reality lmao

 

[bernmeister]

WTF is this fantasy land crap? Rangers defied your advice? You need to put down the crack pipe and get back to reality lmao

sez you
not crap
fact is, I sometimes called things in real time, and were ahead of the curve as to the outcome
my track record is clear
not every time
but repeatedly
Rs do not accept my advice and hindsight proves they should have

I don't have to justify myself to you but just to substantiate, I was against win now rentals, and begrudgingly much of the board admits it was wasted, bottom line not worth it


physician come down from your condescending ivory tower and heal thyself

 

[Guy Larose]

sez you
not crap
fact is, I sometimes called things in real time, and were ahead of the curve as to the outcome
my track record is clear
not every time
but repeatedly
Rs do not accept my advice and hindsight proves they should have

I don't have to justify myself to you but just to substantiate, I was against win now rentals, and begrudgingly much of the board admits it was wasted, bottom line not worth it


physician come down from your condescending ivory tower and heal thyself

Do you hear yourself ? Professional teams don't read message boards and take advice from jo schmo. Wow, you need a reality check or meds. This is weird.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Is bernie the hockey professor?

 

[bernmeister]

Do you hear yourself ? Professional teams don't read message boards and take advice from jo schmo. Wow, you need a reality check or meds. This is weird.

It is irrelevant to what extent teams are/are not reading message boards
considering how much teams invest in research and marketing to keep the base loyal, happy, and growing, it would not be a shock if quietly most clubs had staff scour news/web/etc to catch the latest buzz.

Like everyone else, my posts are to be judged on merit
I have called dozens of shots beforehand to good moves e.g., in extending Kreider, and bad ones not in dealing Buch, but for stupidly doing it w/zero term and only a sliver of rfa rights = abysmal minimal return

Free speech for everyone
competition of ideas = a win win for all
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SILENCE ME WITH BASELESS INSULTS AGAIN

 

[bernmeister]

Is bernie the hockey professor?

I wouldn't say that.
Whether or not any single given opinion I have is predicated upon whether or not it has merit, and whether or not it is more meritorious than another opinion, obviously, cannot be answered without comparison and honest joint scrutiny.

Which is fine, because that is what I am about -- competition of ideas

If you have interest in my actual academic work, pm/convo me

 

[Stickpucker]

sez you
not crap
fact is, I sometimes called things in real time, and were ahead of the curve as to the outcome
my track record is clear
not every time
but repeatedly
Rs do not accept my advice and hindsight proves they should have

I don't have to justify myself to you but just to substantiate, I was against win now rentals, and begrudgingly much of the board admits it was wasted, bottom line not worth it


physician come down from your condescending ivory tower and heal thyself

To spite the Rongomen you should defect to the rogue, Bleu, et blanc

 

[bernmeister]

To spite the Rongomen you should defect to the rogue, Bleu, et blanc

Thanks for the kind invite
I have great appreciation for some of hockey's classic teams, including the Habs of the 60s + 70s

but no, I am a Rangers fan
always was/will be
and if mgmt deserves kudos, fine and not begrudgingly
and same token, if derision is in order, they will hear it from me

peace out
bern

 

[pth2]

Is bernie the hockey professor?

I think one of his personalities might be.

 

[Bouboumaster]

What is the best player under 25 olds (can be a prospect too) that is forward that we could get for 2 x 1st round pick in 2025, including the Habs unprotected 1st?

 

[pth2]

What is the best player under 25 olds (can be a prospect too) that is forward that we could get for 2 x 1st round pick in 2025, including the Habs unprotected 1st?

Seriously, in what universe is Montreal likely to trade their own unprotected pick this far out ?

And the Calgary/Florida one is very hard to assign a value to, since it could be litterally anywhere from #2 to #32.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Seriously, in what universe is Montreal likely to trade their own unprotected pick this far out ?

In mine

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You might wanna check out the stats pal haha. Slaf’s playing more minutes because hes not on a team going to the eastern conference finals like laff was in D+2.

Laff had more even strength goals D+2 playing on a checking line than slaf has total goals this year. Wild.

Slaf with more EV points than Laf had total points when comparing D+2. Slaf with a hattrick tonight and counting, en route to 50 points.

AINEC!

 

[dgibb10]

Seriously, in what universe is Montreal likely to trade their own unprotected pick this far out ?

And the Calgary/Florida one is very hard to assign a value to, since it could be litterally anywhere from #2 to #32.

I mean it will almost certainly be florida's pick next year.

 

[pth2]

I mean it will almost certainly be florida's pick next year.

Most likely, yes, but Florida has tons of UFAs on defense, and there can be a lot of variability from year to year for any team. Montreal went from Cup finalist to last overall in a year.

 

[dgibb10]

Most likely, yes, but Florida has tons of UFAs on defense, and there can be a lot of variability from year to year for any team. Montreal went from Cup finalist to last overall in a year.

Florida is a top 2 team in the league in xGoal%. Very analytically good.

That montreal team was 17th in a very weak north division

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Florida is a top 2 team in the league in xGoal%. Very analytically good.

That montreal team was 17th in a very weak north division

If Cgy finishes 11th next year, doesn’t that pick go to Montreal?

 

[dgibb10]

If Cgy finishes 11th next year, doesn’t that pick go to Montreal?

I'd be shocked if calgary doesn't end up bottom 10 next year.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I'd be shocked if calgary doesn't end up bottom 10 next year.

I think its 50/50 but heavily depends on what they do this offseason.

 

[dgibb10]

I think its 50/50 but heavily depends on what they do this offseason.

I can't see them buying, or being able to recruit free agents, and frankly I just don't think they're very good at all. Also they'll be incentivized to suck in order to keep their pick.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I can't see them buying, or being able to recruit free agents, and frankly I just don't think they're very good at all. Also they'll be incentivized to suck in order to keep their pick.

Logically, i agree with you. But it wouldn't surprise me to see them improve the team in the offseason for the fanbase. Even then, i think finishing just outside of the bottom 10 is not completely out to lunch.

 

[dgibb10]

Logically, i agree with you. But it wouldn't surprise me to see them improve the team in the offseason for the fanbase. Even then, i think finishing just outside of the bottom 10 is not completely out to lunch.

I just can't pick out 5 teams to be worse tbh.

Especially if Markstrom plays like he has the last 2 months into next season, it's going to be brutal.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I just can't pick out 5 teams to be worse tbh.

Especially if Markstrom plays like he has the last 2 months into next season, it's going to be brutal.

Guess we will find out next season.

 

[dgibb10]

Guess we will find out next season.

Guess we will

My Slaf projection for next year is 24 goals 60 points with improved defensive metrics

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Guess we will

My Slaf projection for next year is 24 goals 60 points with improved defensive metrics

I have no projection prediction for Slaf. This season his development has been off the charts. I am not going to put a ceiling on his production next season.

Guess we will find out!