Goaltending, defense

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  1. Richie Daggers Crime

    Richie Daggers Crime Fistie Daggers Crime

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    Good enough goalies change hands all the time. I think the team would be better off finding ways to make themselves better now than making moves for a b goalie for next year, especially considering the logistical issues of doing it now. It's an issue that will need to be addressed, but "disaster" is a bit of hyperbole.
     
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    I posted this in the Trade forum and got negative responses from Isles fans - but I would welcome a trade that sends Halak, a 2nd, and a 3rd to Vancouver for Anders Nilsson. I know he stunk when he was here, but that was eons ago. Since then, he put up a .936 season as a starter in the K, and a .920+ last season and this season playing in Buffalo and Vancouver, of all places. He's signed for one more year at 2.5m, and has shown that he can play very well in a platoon role.
     
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    Not really an upgrade.
     
  4. QuadDeuces

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    He is definitely a significant upgrade over the vortex of suck populating our nets this season.
     
  5. Islesfan22

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    No he's not. I've seen him play enough to know he is below average. There is a reason why he's bounced around in the league.
     
  6. QuadDeuces

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    I've watched more Canucks, Oilers, and Sabres over the last 3 years than I'd care to admit. :laugh: We'll agree to disagree.
     
  7. Islesfan22

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    The goalie that I really wanted which unfortunately we didn't get was Corey Schneider. Now that's what I would call a significant upgrade. I'd rather try to get a solid defenseman and hope either Greiss or Halak get hot. I don't see the isles getting a top 10 goalie via trade now.
     
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    We are so spoiled
    Just look back 5 -6 years ago.

    Our #1 D man was Andrew Macdonald. Played over 60 games and lead the D with 4-23-27.

    AMAC 60 games
    Hamonic 60 games
    Hillen 60 games
    Martinek 60 games
    Chef 50 games
    Jurcina 45 games
    Eaton 35
    Motteau 20
    Katic 10
    Wishart 10
    Let's just stop there

    Yukk !!!!

    Add to that the 6 headed goalie monster of
    DP - lead the way with 26 games played and an. 880 save per
    Roloson
    Poulin
    Lawson
    Montoya
    Koskinen

    JT was so good at making average players better that he cost us a chance at 2 or 3 or 4
    Top 3 draft picks . He made us just bad enough to be good enough to finish just in
    the strome zone every year. Bad JT, bad JT .

    LGI
     
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    I don't want to look back and I certainly don't want to be in the Strome Zone ever again!
     
  10. YesCubed

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    there are no goalies available who are an obvious upgrade over what the isles currently have. one of them will put it together.
     
  11. LeapOnOver

    LeapOnOver Lemieux who?

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    I think Vegas actually has a better defense than we do. Don't know how Subban would do being forced to save odd man rush after odd man rush with our Forrest Gump squad.
     
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    LeapOnOver Lemieux who?

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    Didn't we light him up when we played Vancouver and he let in a softy?
     
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    Now we have a taste of what Cizekas and Kulemin mean to this team. We are missing two of our best defensive forwards especially short handed and one is not coming back. That is the area that needs to be addressed.
     
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    If we appear to be a Cup contender by trade deadline and not just a bubble playoff team,
    Snow has to approach it as win now and get the pieces that provide the best chance to win.
    In the past the Blackhawks and even the Pens were unafraid to move potential future pieces to win Cups. They did (move and win). So now they are kind of struggling a bit, but they won the Cup (multiple times) which no one can take away from them.
    We have some glaring needs that we have to resolve. Goaltending, 2 way 1st pair defenseman, and 3rd line center. We may not be able to fill them all but at least one has to be done. Snow can't hang on to all his prized assets and be successful. All in now.
     
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    What do you guys think about Howard to NYI?
     
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    Eberzal THINK!!!!!

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    I’d trade for any goalie with a pulse at this point
     
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    Eddie Lack is your guy.

    The Isles are one of my favorite teams outside of Calgary, and it's great to see them doing well. I think they have the offense to make some noise in the playoffs, but goaltending obviously isn't ideal as of now. However, like someone mentioned there isn't anyone available that's clearly better than Greiss/Halak. I think you can make an argument for Howard though.
     
  18. Alexei Yashvalev

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    I think any goalie you bring in here probably sees a decline in their performance due to the sad state of team defence.

    Both Halak and Greiss have been in the league a long time and both have stats well below their career averages this year. I don't think it's entirely on them.
     
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    no.
     
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    The goal 30 seconds into the Tampa game was a perfect example of how the defense is killing our goalies.
     
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    Greiss has been great or terrible. Halak has been merely average or terrible. If Greiss doesn't get it together were screwed because Halak won't carry the team - not to mention he's overdue for his usual injury.
     
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    Eberzal THINK!!!!!

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    This. Greiss has had higher highs and lower lows whereas Halak has been consistently bad, but not to the level of Greiss.
     
  23. smheilbron

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    Lack is probably the worst goaltender in the NHL. I assume you were kidding
     
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    According to Staples

    Coaches held a 45-minute penalty kill meeting, now working on PK on ice.
     
  25. Mr Misunderstood

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    They went to Staples and hit the easy button for 45 mins?
     

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