German Football Part III

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Dortmund are in 2nd place and are now winning games they should lose when they used to lose all the games they should win. In unsurprising news, hipster fans burn their still relatively new scarves.

 

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Dortmund are in 2nd place and are now winning games they should lose when they used to lose all the games they should win. In unsurprising news, hipster fans burn their still relatively new scarves.

Psh, real hipsters never truly adopted Dortmund in the 1st place. They may not be Bayern, but they're still a big money corporate club who were the posterchild of the pre-bust stupidity going on in the BuLi in the early 2000s

 

[Deficient Mode]

Frankfurt-Leipzig game has been eventful.

Dortmund are in 2nd place and are now winning games they should lose when they used to lose all the games they should win. In unsurprising news, hipster fans burn their still relatively new scarves.

It's not a criticism of their style. They simply aren't good right now. If they were winning games like Atletico with an actually good defense that's one thing. Right now their shots are going in and the opposition's aren't. Regression is a bitch tho.

 

[Deficient Mode]

smh these awful hipsters who *checks notes* "want to actually have better scoring chances than their opponents with the second most expensive team in the league"

 

[Nalens Oga]

What a stupid protest over a stupid thing to protest about. Bundesliga fans are the whiniest I've ever met. Also, if you want to protest then don't pay tickets to go to the actual game idiots.

 

[Live in the Now]

What a stupid protest over a stupid thing to protest about. Bundesliga fans are the whiniest I've ever met. Also, if you want to protest then don't pay tickets to go to the actual game idiots.

No, I don't agree. Monday and Friday night football is a complete disgrace that inconveniences all supporters.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Just comes down to whether you give preference to the fans in the stadiums or the people watching on television. North Americans obviously incline way more toward the latter. I wouldn't mind if they spaced out the matches more for television by having earlier start times on Saturdays and Sundays but the fans would protest that as well.

 

[Albatros]

Monday night definitely hinders travel and that sucks, but Sunday nights aren't much different.

 

[555Upstairs]

Monday night definitely hinders travel and that sucks, but Sunday nights aren't much different.

You need to consider this, though: The league tries to schedule Sunday evening games mainly between teams located not too far from each other to ease travel. Look at the last couple Sunday night games :
Gladbach - Dortmund
Bremen - Wolfsburg
HSV - Hannover
Hannover - Wolfsburg
That's not much travel for visiting fans.
Combine that with the 6 pm kick-off and you'll realise that Sunday night is still A LOT more convenient for visiting fans than Monday.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Monday night doesn't even benefit North American (who'd be at work/school) or Asian fans (who'd be asleep). It'd be primarily aimed at domestic and other nearby fans in neighboring countries, but I've yet to see any evidence that there is much demand for it.

The basic logic is of course that a BuLi game on without other BuLi games on at the same time is automatically more marketable than one that's running parallel to other BuLi games even if that still isn't all that marketable (and I think it would have been very easy for someone to completely miss that Frankfurt-Leipzig game). But if that's the *only* logic that counts to the league then the fans have a point about their interests being neglected. Let's not forget that without fans in the stadium the game is only half as attractive and marketable. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Albatros]

You need to consider this, though: The league tries to schedule Sunday evening games mainly between teams located not too far from each other to ease travel.

Often that's the case, but not for the reason you suggest. Volatile games often take place on Sundays to lessen the security risks surrounding them. There are also maximal travel games like Bayern-Bremen played on Sunday.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Monday night doesn't even benefit North American (who'd be at work/school) or Asian fans (who'd be asleep). It'd be primarily aimed at domestic and other nearby fans in neighboring countries, but I've yet to see any evidence that there is much demand for it.

The basic logic is of course that a BuLi game on without other BuLi games on at the same time is automatically more marketable than one that's running parallel to other BuLi games even if that still isn't all that marketable (and I think it would have been very easy for someone to completely miss that Frankfurt-Leipzig game). But if that's the *only* logic that counts to the league then the fans have a point about their interests being neglected. Let's not forget that without fans in the stadium the game is only half as attractive and marketable. You can't have it both ways.

You're badly overestimating conformity to conventional schedules. A significant percentage of Asian, Australian and North/South American fans watch the Tuesday/Wednesday matches with a 15 minute start time difference from the Monday/Friday Bundesliga matches live despite time zone inconveniences. If the DFB put entertaining/good teams in those slots, people would watch the matches that they would otherwise miss if 60% of the matches are played at 15:30 on a Saturday. Or they can continue to put Frankfurt-Hamburg style matches that no one cares about in those special time slots.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Kicker says Dortmund wanted to sign Can as their midfield battler but that the deal with Juventus is basically done. I like Can but I don't really want him in Dortmund.

 

[YNWA14]

Italy is a good place for Can.

 

[Savant]

Now who is Liverpool’s replacement for Can? That’s the question.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Now who is Liverpool’s replacement for Can? That’s the question.

Does Gonzalo Castro interest Liverpool?

 

[Savant]

Does Gonzalo Castro interest Liverpool?

Too old. Also no. But if y’all aren’t goin to use Dahoud right and keep wasting him...

 

[Deficient Mode]

Too old. Also no. But if y’all aren’t goin to use Dahoud right and keep wasting him...

Counteroffer: Sebastian Rode.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

You're badly overestimating conformity to conventional schedules. A significant percentage of Asian, Australian and North/South American fans watch the Tuesday/Wednesday matches with a 15 minute start time difference from the Monday/Friday Bundesliga matches live despite time zone inconveniences. If the DFB put entertaining/good teams in those slots, people would watch the matches that they would otherwise miss if 60% of the matches are played at 15:30 on a Saturday. Or they can continue to put Frankfurt-Hamburg style matches that no one cares about in those special time slots.

You base this 'significant percentage' on what? Ratings for regular CL games in the U.S. on FS1/FS2 aren't exactly great - not bad for the time slot but pretty bad overall compared to stuff not shown *during work hours* - and those tend to feature clubs with significant American fanbases like the big English teams, Barca and Real..not Schalke vs Augsburg.

And they can't put 'big name' matchups all the time on Mondays because Dortmund and Bayern only play each other twice a year and that's the only matchup that would draw interest from more than the hardcore.

 

[Deficient Mode]

You base this 'significant percentage' on what? Ratings for regular CL games in the U.S. on FS1/FS2 aren't exactly great - not bad for the time slot but pretty bad overall compared to stuff not shown *during work hours* - and those tend to feature clubs with significant American fanbases like the big English teams, Barca and Real..not Schalke vs Augsburg.

And they can't put 'big name' matchups all the time on Mondays because Dortmund and Bayern only play each other twice a year and that's the only matchup that would draw interest from more than the hardcore.

The percentage of non-European fans who are talking about them online? TV isn't the only way to watch.

Yeah, I'm sure that's the only matchup that outsiders would watch at all just because it's live and on television.

 

[Alklha]

 

[cgf]

Mandela Egbo making his BuLi debut following Zakaria's injury

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

There's really no excuse for that. What in the world.

 

[cgf]

Yeah that's not going to win BuLi2's goal of the year

 

[HajdukSplit]

Stuttgart unbeaten in 4 under Korkut with three wins in a row, they are closer to the EL spots now than the relegation zone Bayern held at home to Hertha not that it matters in the grand picture.